Amy Tuteur (she's NOT a doctor, ok) posted this morning.
I would have never known that; except there it was blaring at me on the front cover when I logged in this morning.It's not an awful post maybe, but anyone that can do a google search and properly spell MASTURBATION could have done as well (at least).
Myself and other commenters took issue with the good "doctor" getting a prominent spot on the cover for the (let's face it) not very good posting.
Many commented myself included. The overwhelming majority apparently feel that "Dr." Amy is a sensationalist, and that her posts lack depth and substance, not to mention the way she summarily dismisses her commenters, often even those that seem to agree with her.
For those that don't remember "Dr." Amy used to be on the cover just about every day. She then left for greener blogging pastures after her own son commented on HIS MOMS OWN BLOG that she hadn't held a doctors license since the early 90's. Pretty much killed her creds which were already pretty darned suspect.
For the record (IMHO) Amy has every right to blog here. Of course she does. I mean I could blog here as Dr. Satan if I chose to do so. And needless to say the editors don't need to answer to me or anyone about what is put on the cover daily. BUT, me with my loud mouth had to post the below comment after Kerry chimed in late in the day with this little show of support for Amy Tuteur his chosen child.
I'm in awe big K (and that's a term of endearment... seriously) and just wonder if you could explain once and for all to US the contributors what constitutes a post worthy of the OS cover.
This?
Really?
People are leaving right and left around here. Karin Rego, gone. Designanator gone. Emma Peel has one foot out the door and the other hanging by the little toe. It's depressing Kerry to people that really really try to write important or funny or otherwise worthwhile things (and believe me I DO NOT count myself amongst those... mine is more like an online diary, and I DO appreciate having a place to post it, and some readers to read and comment) to see the obvious favoritism here on YOUR opensalon. I know it's your ball and you can take it home and not let anyone play any more anytime you want. We just want to understand.
Amy (sorry, I do not recognize the "M.D." part) I apologize for my previous comment, but please understand the frustration of the people who spend hours and hours here daily... people that take this place seriously (read above in these comments. I do not believe I am the only one that feels this way).
Anyways, welcome back Amy, every so often I use to catch an article or two you wrote and I actually loved seeing some of your humor coming out on one of your new articles.
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"I'm masturbating right now, but, um, thanks for this, um, congrats on the EP for this insightful and....ooops.
nanatehay
September 21, 2009 07:58 PM"
The harder your try to make sense, the more stubborn there asses get. "Welcome back Amy, you condescending bitch."
There's mine, it's out of the way.
Nope, sorry, that one's already taken.
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Hey maybe I will go search the internet on women masturbating and do a Copy and Paste article too. Then maybe Kerry will give me an EP and cover also..
You had EP and Cover the minute you posted this article, I seen it come up. You had only one or two commenters. Which I think you and a couple others on here getting automatic EP and Covers is a cock of shit. When there are so many other great writers on here that take their time to research, put depth and emotions into their pieces and they get over looked by the editors. You come back on here and you get it automatically.
What are you blowing Kerry or one of the other editors. Damn shame because I bet I could blow them better then you.. lmao..
fireeyes24
September 21, 2009 08:18 PM
Also, when my viral post got deleted it had a headline mocking Dr. Amy. I'd had a few before:
Dr. Amy: "I Bought My Five Year Old A Stripper Pole"
Dr. Amy: "Does getting flashed count as sex education?"
Dr. Amy: Being abused is "a gift. Makes you stronger!"
Then I went for the jugalar and got nuked :
Dr Amy: Dad lets friends rape daughter to "punish that slut"
Now, had that been a true story - and who's to say it isn't nowadays - the eds would have LOVED it. But as it was, they suddenly found morals for the cover.
The eds have been rating and raving over Dr Amy's posts since she came back. I'm starting to think it was by invitation. Regardless, her return is a sign of desperation. Interesting isn't it how often we kill something in the name of saving it.
Don't fret hon, I say we just keep doing what we do, enjoying ourselves and enjoying friends, this is what OS is all about!
Lets all get nakie and DANCE! Woooo!
Rated!
Big SP
Dr. Cap'n Parrotdead
So we all will expect to see her with EPs and Covers from now on. The editors love her!
Unfortunately, there are so many other deserving writers who may never get the chance now. There are so many writers who simply amaze me with their work, and I never see them on a Cover much less receive an EP.
But she has her favorites and they will shower her with praise, love, and adoration, placing flowers in her hair, and lovingly adorn her with platitudes.
They will bend at the knee, at the waist, and kiss her hand and look up with their glassy eyes and marvel at the individual before them.
Still, as you say, she has every right to be here.
But at what cost to the rest of the us and to the reputation of OS??
Personally, she's no more relevant to me than an 8 track tape.
It and she has no place in my world...
And what's with this 'not recognizing her as an MD'?????? Are you saying you have proof that she didn't graduate from medical school?
You can always choose not to read her if you don't like her or her writing - what's the point of blasting her? Maybe it just makes you feel better...but have you thought how other people on OS might see the site, seeing these sorts of negative comments being spewed on a post that said nothing to, for or about you? By continually visiting her blog and posting rude remarks, you keep her alive in the feed and thus attract more eyes to her post, so it seems counterproductive to do that.
Wow!!!
This morning when I saw MASTURFUCKINGBATION post on the cover I threw up in my mouth and had to brush my teeth ALL OVER again!
In the immortal words of Nancy Kerrigan, WHY? WHY? WHY?????
If it wasn't put on the cover I never would have noticed it in the first place. Being on the cover is the one and only issue I have with her post. My criticism of her content should be taken in that context.
You are constantly on the cover and deservedly so usually, but many many others are routinely overlooked in favor of 3rd class masturbation posts by the good doctor.
And it was HER SON that said she wasn't licensed as a doctor. Apparently she used to be 17 years ago.
Licensing has nothing to do with MD which signifies graduating 4 years of medical school. I currently have 3 doctors of medicine on staff at my company - none of them are licensed, all of them are doctors. So I don't think she's trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes on that one, but hey, I've been wrong before.
I rarely read posts that are on the cover. I have writers that I enjoy reading, people who have become friends and I will continue to read, rate and comment on their posts.
Just on a side note, I'm so very sorry that Karin felt she had to leave. What a huge loss for this community that was.
She does not offer that information freely to her readers, most of whom I am sure assume that she is a practicing, licensed, medical doctor. I am quite sure that her return to OS has everything to do with the ego boosting she gets from being an editor's pet. I visited her blog a few times over the past few months and it is obvious that she gets very little in the way of comments and feedback and no ego massaging from anyone. She's an attention whore and the editors are here are her pimps. Anyone who reads her crap is a john.
I don't harbor any anger for Dr. A for coming back, writing and/or getting an EP, that would be wrong. But...
There are many out here in the Wasteland that have never gotten an EP, one has already been mentioned by Natalie, micalpeace.
I know I will never be the Golden Boy of anything, I write shit, I get readers which is what I love the most. If I had to choose between getting an EP and cover and losing my current readers or getting a million dollars a day till the end of my life to give up on Open for better stuff like free porn, well, I know you know what I would choose, that being the million dollars. It's a giving.
Anyways, Delia, what? Have you seen the EP Manifesto for Future Cool Folks and it shows my name? That'd be awesome. What do you mean, I'm on the Eliminate People(EP) list? Even better!!!!!
And Trig, I'd spend anytime with you and the entire krew in the basement. That's where they keep the good booze.
Ohhhhlaaaaalaaaaaaaa!!!!
And Luis, the 8 track tape is still the best sound system EVA!! ;)
~group hug~
Trig, you, Jeff, and Tink are my heroes. Well done!
Kisses,
Marcela
As I said before, and that Natalie also said, there are writers who deserve an EP and Cover as well who won't get that chance.
Group hug, Tink?? The last time we had a group hug you stole my wallet.
Luis, damn it, I gave it back, no, the money was gone, but damn, you got the wallet back!! Sheesh!!
;)
4 MORE YEARS!! ~BUTT PINCHES TO ONE AND ALL~
;)
May I re-iterate puhlease that the only thing that inspired this post is her being on the cover for a mediocre (at best... I thought it was awful) posting. If it wasn't for the incestuous relationship between Amy and the editorial staff she would go mostly unnoticed. Her ratings are awful. Her "readership", over half at least (and that's conservative) despise her openly and say as much in their commentaries.
The Amy "phenomenon" is the product of the PTB at OS.
Is this "sour grapes" on my part or yours? I don't think so. Do you?
I already see that you agree. It's so blatantly obvious; and Kerry or this mysterious Thomas won't come out and explain why it's so. Why does Micalpeace to name one go completely unrecognized while hack work is rewarded?
Dr. Amy Tuteur is a cheap, unprinicipalled hack who brings NOTHING of value to Open Salon. As far as the editors, the fact that they'd EP and put on the cover such egregious, meaningless garbage as her latest post about jacking off tells us all we need to know about what's important to them, as if that wasn't already apparent. What cracks me up is people who feel the need to defend her; defending Amy is approximately the same thing as defending gonorrhea; it (and she) doesn't need the help and could give a fuck less anyway.
We're doubly screwed.
As if Dr. Amy didn't have enough power, we're now branded as childish bullies. No reason to go on now...
I know that the rampant unfairness here has dampened my enthusiam for writing anything of substance at OS, or writing anything at all lately, and I can see its slow but steady effect on others as well. Call it whining/sour grapes/whatever you like, but as someone who's worked professionally as a writer for 25 years, I expected better treatment from a self-described "writers, artists, photographers'" site. But I've been wrong before and I am apparently wrong again.
Imagine what it must be like to sit down and write and know that no matter what, you will land a prime spot on the cover. I even saw one of the chosen few's posts get an EP/cover days after she posted it since the editors missed it somehow and scurried to make sure they didn't offend the golden girl. I happy to like that writer very much, but it's still a rigged process on a site that pretends to be a meritocracy.
Even more discouraging is the fact that I have yet to hear ONE of those with constant EPs and covers ever acknowledge how many they receive, or that they receive them at all. Not one has ever remarked on how the fact that theirs are automatic reflects poorly on OS, or that it prevents other writers from being acknowledged.
I know from long experience that the world of journalism is far from a democracy and that most writers have big egos and are competitive, but I allowed myself to believe that OS might be different. Hah! Dr. Amy is just one egregious example of how it is the same shit, just a different pile.
Sandra, you know that I love you. I've tried not loving you and I was quite unsuccessful. Do you defend her because you are also a sweetheart of the editors or are you just genuinely that saint like?
dude, can you explain why you would miss them?
I don't understand it. I think that's why many are unhappy. And it's not the silly reason of "why didn't I get an EP/Cover??" Rather, it's the unfairness of it all.
So people will say something and that's the right we have, just as the same right she has to come back and be the darling of the editors.
And why do I care? Because I come here to read, and they write well. Emma pretty much quit posting because of many of the reasons outlined in this post.
Karin's last few post ( I recently discovered her) were absolutely delightful.
So vzn what is your role here on OS. Troll wanna be?
ITS A MASSIVE NINE FOOT SNARK!!!!
VZN, you're a trip; you fuck with people on OS, behaving like a creepy little cyberstalker, then make jokes about it. You aren't in the least bit funny my friend.
Oh we can't forget that Tink is on that list also..
Man the five of us are going to have so much fun.. LMAO!!
Because you write well. Amy Tuteur doesn't in
most people's opinions.
I enjoyed karin's posts. when she told me someone was harassing and blogstalking her, I ask her for the identity of the fucktard. She had the class to refuse to identify you. You must be extremely proud, sick, mentally unbalanced or filled with idiot juice.
Regarding the "MD", she can use that all she wants but it doesn't mean much without a liscense. That would be like my husband calling himself an EMT . . . he was one and was liscened before he switched careers, but his liscense has lasped. The training and everything else is still there, but he would get himself in legal hot water if he misrepresented himself. The same way Amy would if she is giving medical advice.
VZN: Petty much?
Bottom line I understand how you guys feel, I just don't want OS to lose its fun sense of community. :)
So, looks like you're voting vzn off the island?
No argument from me.
The muse left me a month ago, but maybe it will return in the fall. All the best to everyone, and keep it civil.
The last thing I want here is non civil activity. I posted this as a protest towards the editors who seem to play favorites.
And Ralph the only time I look at the cover is when I log in. That's when I saw the great masturbation post by AMY, dead in the middle of the front cover.
I don't think, nor am I here at this post.
Now I DID tell Amy that her post was boring and had very little practical value on my first comment this morning. Or something like that I don't know. Once again as I've said earlier here in comments if I posted crap I would expect to be called on it. Heck, I HAVE posted crap. Difference being my crap doesn't end up on the cover of this cyber rag.
I think karins a cyberexhibitionist, as much as I am. she'll be back, and Im not the reason she left.
its true, she might have disliked the competition.
some that are jumping in the fray have no idea. I guess I see how that works.
Nobody is persecuting you. You set yourself up for that.
Emma I believe you, Natalie, Nanatehay, spotted mind, lady miko, fireeyes and others regarding vzn.
vzn~cyberexhibitionist? Is that it huh. I can tell you one thing. I miss Karin already. Maybe you could find a website that specializes in such things and hang out there (?)
Just sayin...
Wear a porkpie hat with a Kool cigarette dangling from your bright fire engine lips.
Wear big Peace Hoop earrings with a fishing earthworm dangling from Ya earrings.
Yummy Catfish.
Great delicacy.
Fry with lard.
O bacon fats.
A Lox Bagel.
Poppy seed.
Butter UPS!
boohoo Oops.
Great blog, fine discussion...mostly... It has inspired me to write a bit about my feeling on the site in general. I think the Dr. Amy posts are just sensational titillation disguised as medical-related (or not), but designed to attract viewers, not produce fine writing. So, it is not on my reading list generally. The EP world is a mystery, although I do have my opinion on what makes it tick. Thanks for taking up the topic and leading the charge; I've enjoyed all the comments and will continue to check back.
Umbrellamylove a pox? Well she'd just cure herself if you poxed her. Now a fart might be pretty appropriate though.
Padraig Coleman thank you for visiting my humble little blog. "Backing out of the limelight"? In other words you too are sick
of the practices of the editorial staff... Kerry? Why?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Nat and eyes... jeez get a room. And FE that blowing the editors thing was NOT really appropriate to this blog btw. I'm trying to be civilized (for a little change up).
You inspired me. http://open.salon.com/blog/ralph_tingey/2009/09/21/musings_on_the_return_of_dr_amy
And Fireeyes, you didn't offend me...laughed my butt off!
What's baffling is the covers. If it's sensationalism they're after, plenty of other writers here deal with sex, and with more originality.
Evidently.
Vote with your mouse.
At least you got six months in the hole, I'm a permanent party here. I sleep on the top bunk.
POWER TO THE PEEBELS!
I think you have to have had a CHANCE at getting an EP before you loose that chance. ;-)
Thanks to you for doing what you do. I appreciate it.
I don't know you from a can of paint, but if you are one of the non-decision decisions that the OS editors won't have to make then I can assure you there are people here who will resent your reappearance.
Your post really is of no consequence to me and from some of the comments not much in the way of positive reception....
Kerry, on the other hand is an exception....His palpable excitement at your return is an affront and an insult to those of us who have labored long and hard to reach ever wider audiences with our attempts at written and pictoral expression......
If you are being paid to post here you and he should say so.
If you were sought out and invited back with any kind of inducement or enticement you should say so....
If you honestly believe that your work is superior, if this post is an indicator of that, despite what Kerry might have told you, it is not...
In fact in many ways it is sub-par......
If you are one of the beta editor's pets or a member of the beta clique you already know that you can post a three word description of a door knob and Kerry will award you an EP before you can finish proof reading the published item...
If you are one of those who will get one EP after another merely because of who you are not what you have to say or how well you say it, I, for one, will have little or no use for you.....and less in the way of regard and respect...
Because if you could truly write as well as all that, you should be writing where you would be properly and adequately compensated for your work. In these difficul economic times who couldn't use a little extra remuneration....
Don't be concerned about me and an EP. Kerry has made it absolutely clear, by his actions and inactions, that I will not be given such honors at OS...I post much of my work elsewhere where it is given the fair and objective consideration it deserves and the occassional highlighted "front page and recommened reading" treatment, so I treat Kerry's "editorial decisions" like the joke that they are.
Oh, and by the way, welcome back.....
You said:
"Once again as I've said earlier here in comments if I posted crap I would expect to be called on it."
And since you invited me by mentioning my name, I'm calling you on your "crap." You are not the all high supreme ruler of all you survey. It is not your business what someone else writes about so long as they do not drag you into it by name or suggestion. You are free to make your comment on her piece, but then move on. Continual, negative and/or angry comments can be easily perceived as harassment......... :-|
Surely writing a Hotel California style post (stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast) about another person who has not called you out, challenged you nor insulted you in any way and slinging unwarranted snark here there and everywhere while your at it, is unattractive, to say the least. Your posts are moderately humorous at times, interesting at other times and more often than I, as a reader, would like, offensive in some way.
You are on a high horse and I think it's time you climbed down. Emma wouldn't be so quick to agree with you if she knew what you said about her in PM, would she?
You said:
"Heck, I HAVE posted crap. Difference being my crap doesn't end up on the cover of this cyber rag."
This sounds like jealousy and well, 2 things: Don't give her the satisfaction and jealousy is too often the cause of much displaced hatred and rage.
As for me, I never come in through the front door of OS. When I have gotten covers, I only found out by other readers congratulating me. I only roam there when I am in a funk and looking for new bloggers to read. I have not read Amy's post and I seriously doubt I will. She does not interest me and she is cold to her readers... so I move on with so much as a whisper in the wind as I pass.
Now if someone starts some shit with you - mentioning you by name or suggestion in their post, copying your stuff, harassing you etc, by all means - let 'er rip! They started it, after all, so they should be expecting retaliation.
If we don't like the rules, we get to take our bat and ball and go home. Which lots are, apparently. *sigh*
I do feel badly for the amazing writers who are not acknowledged as they deserve to be. It must be terribly frustrating. It's like singing in the shower vs. singing in front of thousands of people - sure, both are great expressions of something I love to do, but to be acknowledged for that talent is very gratifying. (Now stop picturing me in the shower.) ;)
I hope no one else leaves.
Then, maybe she'll go away.
Or at least maybe they'll stop courting her with EPs and covers when she stops bringing them 'bumps.'
And I hope Karin comes back here. I didn't know she'd left, but I liked her posts. You just have to ignore people like whats-his-name eventually unless they break the law by threatening violence. His foolishness is meaningless in the scheme of things, so I hope she'll shoot back this way.
even you vzn for supplying links to my old posts.
do you suppose I would have put those up here on
the interbutt if I was ashamed or something? I put
them here for people to read. it's my life, my real life.
Apache Savage I apologize for adding you into that comment.
I'm going back this minute to remove that part.
The rest of the post stands though. It is what it is,
now a part of my blog history and if ya want vzn link
it all over the interuniverse.
Have a good day all.