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I was born in year 4 of the reign of the Emperor Tiberius Claudius and raised on 66th Street and 13th Ave. in Brooklyn. And Coney Island, Traveled the world. Married my high school sweetheart and stayed together 40 years. Now a retired old widower crank living in Florida with my cat. Author of "Initial Verses" - a collection of poems on love, loss, poverty and war" and "Toritto's Blog - a Memoir of a life in posts."

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FEBRUARY 15, 2012 12:55PM

"I'd Like a Box of Trojans Please!"

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Yes my children.

Though some of you might not believe it. We had sex in the ‘50s.

Yes we did. Even the Cleavers. On black and white TV however no one ever had sex. Or went to a toilet.

Now sex in the ‘50s had rules.

First there were church rules. No sex before marriage. Especially us Catholics.

No sex with your girlfriend. Certainly no sex with another boy. And no sex alone. No "spilling the seed". In Catechism class all we boys learned about Onan. Besides, it could make you go blind. I wore glasses from when I was six. Girls didn’t have to learn about Onan.  They had other sins to worry about.

Getting ready for Confession meant counting up the number of sins - especially the really bad ones. The priest always seemed to ask how many times.

Chaperones at the school and church dances (Confraternity!) made sure you didn't dance too close.   When ever we started "doing the fish" and rubbing crotches together the guilty young man would get a tap on his shoulder from one of the minders and be expected to hold his girl at a respectable distance. 

Now the other conditions which had a great effect on the rules of sex were (a) there was no "pill" and (b) getting hold of any contraception wasn’t easy for a teen. In Connecticut before Griswold, condoms were not sold anywhere and were not available, even to married couples - let alone horny teenage boys.

So if you were having hot sex with your high school sweetheart with no "protection" there was a really good chance of "knocking her up" - as the old sayings go - where upon you could expect a visit from her father, brothers and uncles demanding you "do the honorable thing" - marry her.

Obviously since there was no possibility of abortion, even when the mother took Thalidomide, a baby was going to be born.

If you married your sweetheart you dropped out of school and took a job on the docks. She immediately dropped out of school - no pregnant girls allowed. No married girls allowed. High school was over.

If you didn’t marry her the local grandmas immediately painted a red "W" for "Whoo-wa" on her forehead.  She went off to some "home" to have the baby and give it up for adoption. If you were Italian she was sent back to Italy to stay with her Aunt Filomena and give the baby up for adoption in the old country.  This had the advantage of being able to go back to high school and tell everyone she spent a year studying abroad.  If she stayed home and you married her the grandmas immediately started counting off the months to determine whether or not she deserved a "W".

Or she was the victim of a back alley abortion with a wire coat hanger.

So while engaging in sex in the ‘50s one had to be very very careful. This lead to lots of sex without actual intercourse sex.  Sort of Clintonesque sex.  Lots of seed spilling anywhere but where it could cause trouble.

When you and your lady were ready to move out of the drive-in and the back seat of your ‘49 Chevy tonguing and dry humping stage and on to real sex, condoms were necessary. Your girl wasn't buying that coitus interruptus crap you were giving her.  If you wanted to get laid you needed to man up and get condoms.

And the church and the state didn’t make it easy. Making it easy would encourage illicit sex. Can’t have that now can we?

condom maching 

The .25 cent condom machine in some garage men's rooms.

It was the man’s job to get condoms. If you lived in Connecticut it meant a trip to New York. If you lived in New York it still wasn’t made easy.

There were no giant super markets or drug store chains 60 years ago. There was a grocery store run by a grocer. He didn’t sell condoms. And there was a drug store, run by a "druggist". He sold condoms. But he knew your mom.

The dreaded drug store where you had to ask for trojans! 

Which meant buying condoms at a drug store outside of your neighborhood - somewhere you wouldn’t run into anyone who knew you while you were doing the deed.

You scouted the landscape. All clear. You enter trying to look as "adult" and casual as possible.

Condoms are ALWAYS behind the counter and out of sight. You ALWAYS have to ask for them. You make sure there are no women nearby and no woman behind the counter. You approach and as quietly as possible you ask for "a box of trojans". Damn if the counter-man doesn’t always ask you to speak up! You might as well go for it now. "TROJANS PLEASE!".

If you're lucky and the druggist doesn't roust you for being underage you get your rubbers and skip out dreaming about getting laid on the way home. You hide them so your parents won’t find them. Your girl is so proud of you. Kisses for you.

Checking into a respectable motel with your girl isn’t easy either. You just didn’t walk up to the desk and check in, You two weren’t married.  And identification was necessary.

You scouted the motel, made sure she could enter the room without being seen, and the MAN registered. After you got the key you snuck her in. Then you had to get her home before curfew.  Since there were no credit cards in the "olden days" you paid cash up front and simply left the key in the room.

The world changed with Griswold, Roe v. Wade and the coming of the pill. Women were put in control of their bodies.

The vast majority of Catholic women, even those sitting in the pews each Sunday, gave up Vatican Roulette, ignored their priests and took up the pill. My grandmother had eight children. Most married Catholic women living in a state where condoms were not available were having a kid a year if they didn’t practice some sort of Clintonesque sex.

 Even Vatican Roulette failed quite often - a woman had no right to refuse her husband. The law didn’t recognize that a husband could rape his wife. "No" was not an option. 

Millions of couples, including a good friend's parents separated and lived apart for decades because the church would not permit divorce.   Jackie Gleason did that.  Other "stars" in the public eye engaged in "serial marriage" - some with seven or eight spouses, never wanting to appear as "living in sin".

So when you hear church prelates and Rick Santorum droning on about birth control, abortion, pre-marital sex etc. just pull out this opus and read it again.

This is what they would send you back to..........(dangling participle!)

 

 

 

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Well, this is just great! Funny, nostalgic, but a nice serious reminder at the end.
Excellent, toritto! I was raised a good Catholic girl, but I remember having several of The Talks with my mother when I was in high school. I remember her asking me to look around, and think about all the Catholic families I knew with two or three children. Almost all of them (this was the 1980s). Including mine. "That didn't happen by accident," my mother told me, and I realized that almost every Catholic family used birth control. Including mine.

End of story. (Or should be, Mr. Santorum).
...and then the druggist says " Yeah. We got 'em. What size do you need?" So you spread your hands out in the classic position guys use to lie about how big the fish was they caught on the weekend, trying not to be embarrasingly truthful but hoping he'll give you something that still fits and he says, " No. Wise guy. I meant do you want a three pack or a box of a dozen."
Dude!

Very cool post.

Rated.
I think everyone who can should just get a vasectomy. It saves so many unintended problems. You can freeze up some spermcicles for later use, and a reversal is often effective. No hormones, no latex, no spermicide, no problems. If only........ Amazingly, 1 in 3 teenagers who has an unintended pregnancy not only did not use contraception, but believe that somehow they were infertile. What the hell do they teach in abstinence only education?
All too terribly true, sez me who was there too. Great post, toritto.
Great post and cautionary tale!
"and be expected to hold his girl at a respectable distance."

20 miles or more!! EEK!! :D

Rated!
"That's the one's philosophy, one's experiences, one's exposure to the raw edges of human existence, one's religious training, one's attitudes toward life and family and their values, and the moral standards one establishes and seeks to observe, are all likely to influence and to color one's thinking and conclusions about abortion" harder experiences of life part of Blackmun's opinion in Roe.
what is needed is a big nationwide woodstock like
gathering of Catholic girls. Of all ages.
Bringing whatever suggestive
uniforms they deem appropriate to the task:
to come
ha
vividly fully into the new century,
pleasurewise.

a plethora of priests would defrockify themself
if such an event was held, i think.
they would do it in god's name.
the ecumenical universal
CATHOLIC
god, not
mr. sex freak from the 11th century. Jehovah.
For some great condom humor, rent "Porterhouse Blue" from Netflix. It's a British comedy miniseries.
In the mid-70s when I was at college in Scotland, there were vending machines in the mens rooms of pubs and even the student union bar. You still had to ask for condoms at the drugstore - none on display. I discovered by accident one night how to use one of these machines without embarrassment. If you fed your 50 pence piece into the machine and got your two (I think it was) in a little cardboard pack, someone was bound to make a facetious remark. If you fed in three successive coins and headed out the door with three packs, you got a round of applause. We were actually planning a water-balloon type prank!
A friend of ours in the 80s was a nurse who briefly dated a doctor from Australia. He was going to mail something home to his mum, so he went into a newsagent's store to buy some parcel tape. Now in Oz or Scotland you don't use Scotch tape. The leading brand in Oz is called Durex. I guess the manufacturer wanted to make you think the stuff was "durable". Same logic I suppose was used by the London Rubber Company when they came up with the brand name for Britain's most popular condom... He asked for "a roll of Durex" and was sent out the store, very mystified, to the chemists (drugstore) down the street. He started to get an inkling of what he had done as he exited and one of the ladies behind the counter turned to her friend and said "Wouldn't that be a handy thing? You could have a wee dispenser by the bed!"
Rated for the garage machines. For prevention of disease only.

I remember a male friend who shared his Dad's 'birds and bees' conversation. Which boiled down to 'avoid gas station rubbers.'

I"ve seen em on rare occasions in various out of the way places.
i *love* emmerling's comment.
Terrific, Toritto! (And scary, to think what some want us to go back to...) Photo selections are wonderful. And I too love James Emmerling's comment.
"doing the fish"... is that the same move as the funky chicken?
Larry - "doin the fish" was dancing to a slow tune like "In the Still of the Night" , his hands on her hips, her hands around his neck, nice and close and swaying from side to side together.

Hot when you're 16!

:-)
The times you describe were slightly before my own toritto but that zeitgeist and many of its trappings carried on for quite some time. The pill saved me from having to condoms for quite some time, though it had its own risks, unknown to us in the early days. I remember too those condom machines that by the early 70s were ubiquitous in men’s rooms. In my neck of the woods they always had in big letters “Sold For the Prevention of Disease”. And some bathroom with would invariably write “Kids are disease?”

Your description of the outcomes of teenage pregnancies were spot on. They reminded me of Springsteen’s lyrics from The River:

Then I got Mary pregnant and man that was all she wrote
And for my nineteen birthday I got a union card and a wedding coat

Great post.
Thanks for reminding me about "doin' the fish". I hadn't thought about that expression/activity in a long time. All of it is right on the moneyas far as memories. R
However, to be fair to Mr. Santorum, he is talking about his personal opinion. He is a Catholic. He follows the Church thinking on this. He has made it clear that this is personal opinion and not something he wants to foist on the public.
Barbara - so nice to see you.

I don't agree. I believe Rick S. would ban contraception in the blink of an eye if he could.There has been criticism for years oveer the Griswold decision.

Banning contraception starts by making it unavailable through health insurance plans and calling it an attack on religion rather than what it is - a labor law issue.

Thanks for coming by.

Regards.
Yes, we did. And I'm living proof that you can self-love a lot and not go blind -- I'm 67 and I still don't need glasses.
"Love With the Proper Stranger" is an old b/w movie with Natalie Wood and Steve McQueen. She gets pregnant and Steve goes with her to an abortionist. It's one of the scariest scenes of how an illegal abortion was done back in the day. No kindly old Michael Caine a la "The Cider House Rules". Should be required viewing by the anti-contraception and anti-sex education proponents. Is this what we want to go back to?
This was so true and I agree with Oryoki. r
Great post; puts a lot in perspective and frames the whole contraception "issue" that's out there as even more ridiculous than it is. (It is the 21st century, isn't it?)

Nicely done.
R