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OCTOBER 20, 2011 8:54AM

Extremism on Both Sides? Show Me

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Dennis Kucinich:  Leftwing drift at work? 

A strange new truism has crept into mainstream political coverage.  It is a statement I have encountered as often as several times a day in my news consumption.  The assertion is that governance is harder because left and right have both moved farther from the center, to the point of two extremes.  Both sides?  By what measure?

            Case in point:  a random Google hit:

Democrats and Republicans are drifting farther apart, and partisan-inspired gridlock has become the norm. Thus, people and pundits are increasingly discussing the need of a centrist movement that will produce a candidate less ideologically hide-bound and more willing to advocate solutions that are not part of a left-wing or right-wing agenda.

[from the Anniston Star - What is Americans Elect?]

            That the right has drifted in truly tectonic fashion since 2008 goes without saying.  It is the in the DNA of the age.  On the right, populist rabble, big-time Fox media and national legislative leaders like Mitch McConnell and Michele Bachmann are all pretty much on the same page, give or take a paragraph or two.  On the left—if there is a left—there was a quixotic moment of excitement about Barack Obama and then meaningful health care reform and then we got what we got and that was all she wrote.  I even wrote a piece expressing incredulity that anyone could call health care exchanges (as described in the “public option”) radical.  That is like calling Kaiser Permanente’s business model radical, like calling the public library radical.

            On the streets we have—what?—Occupy America—in play at the moment.  The nascent movement says what the Tea Party said at first, we have no leaders, and one hopes that remains true given the way the TP was co-opted in short order.  So, while the Occupy movement certainly includes members with notions associated with the left, say, forgiveness of student debt, that’s not a marquee position.  That’s not like bringing one’s AK47 to the town hall.

            At leadership levels, we can spot, whom?—Dennis Kucinich?  In the big scheme of things, he is less than relevant, les than Michael Moore. In the Senate we have Bernie Sanders, who is the least radical socialist ever.  And the big kahuna, in the White House, our own Barack Obama, has proven, as progressives have held for a while now, to be a raving centrist.

            Perhaps the most wild-eyed leftist in the House is my own Keith
Ellison, the Minnesota Representative from the 5th District.  Principled, disciplined, earnest to a fault, somewhat weepy—every urban core would be so lucky to have a voice of, yes, reason, who expresses, not so much an ideological dogma, but more just empathy.  A pol who cares about the average Jill and Joe.  Now that’s radical.

            Just because the right characterizes health care reform as a government takeover of medicine doesn’t make it so, and it doesn’t make it leftwing either.  And just because they call Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi hardcore liberals doesn’t position them one inch to the left of, say, Tip O’Neil, with whom President Reagan had little trouble coming to terms.  So where’s the drift?

            What we’ve lost is historical perspective—and a media willing to fact check the rhetoric of the right.  Big Media sometimes check facts, but it rarely questions the tenor, tone and context of such characterizations.  If you want to talk issues, look at the milquetoast reform under Dodd-Frank for less than leftwing legislation.  The 2009 stimulus is little different from what Hank Paulson would have proposed.  The application of a Keynesian notion is not leftwing drift.  The EPA merely veered as far left as to attempt to enforce laws long on the books. The Consumer Protection Agency doesn’t even have a confirmed executive.  How is any of this left of anything?

If we are talking about a sense of intractability, a refusal to compromise, instead of actual ideology, the Democrats can be said to have come off of a remarkable run of compromise so deep it’s hard to see what they stand for on the contemporary stage while the Republicans have obstructed more compromise than any Congress since, I don’t know, the Depression.  Wait, I have a parallel:  today’s Congressional Republicans resemble the Democrats of post-Civil War Reconstruction.

I would argue that Americans have seen so little in the way of left wing policy in recent years that they wouldn’t know it if they saw it.  Why?  Mainly because it doesn’t exist above the radar.  And while I grudgingly understand that any call for universal health care is seen by many as leftwing policy, I don’t by any means consider Canada, especially here-and-now Oil Sands contemporary Canada to be a leftwing nation.  Instead, what is seen as merely normal in the greater part of the post-industrial world is considered exotic and leftwing here.

Ours is a retrograde conservatism, a baptismal conservatism that clings far more to articles of faith than logic or analysis.  And the news media, particularly the daily newspaper segment, has moved right along with the Tea Party nation. 

I expect to hear the right—Fox—decry the radicalism of the fledgling Occupy movement, and that’s just fine.  Some small part of the emerging talking points will be “left,” I am sure.  Domestic debt forgiveness might qualify—though I’ve never heard anyone use that term.  Instead, the call for a response to unchecked corporate greed and corporate capture of the political process sounds no more left than Republican Bull Moose Teddy Roosevelt and the trust busters. So no, both sides have not drifted from the center, the center has drifted right.  But you knew that, didn’t you?

 

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Yes, I did know that, Steve, but thanks for taking the time to make the case so well. I've lost count of the number of times I've shouted at the television at some talking head going on about how "radical" both sides have become, "What the hell are you talking about? Give me some examples of radical left!"

As you say, most people now wouldn't know "left wing" anything if it bit them in the ass.

Historical perspective, now there's something really radical. ;-)
right on! we have not just lost the "historical perspecitve" - we have failed to teach historical facts - or even the myths and legends that were traditionally substitited for them.

the truth is that the status quo cannot be explained logically without exposing the string pullers for what they are. creating a political opertative or jihadist - both serve to protect the status quo - is an art form - a bin laden or bachman is no accident - it takes millions of 'cruits to create one of them. as we sit back in awe of just how nuts these professional polarizers are, we fail to consider who runs the little shop of horrors that creates them - and for what purpose.
I'm not by nature a conspirasist, but I find it disconcerting to see so many examples of false equivalency in the media. In essence, this is sophistry -- the use of a false dichotomy to disguise the truth -- and its prevalence bespeaks a concerted effort to obfuscate.

Another area where this sort of thing operates is astroturf emails that go viral and are forwarded by ignorant co-workers, curmudgeonly cousins and Teapartian friends and family members. But it's all to obvious, to me at least, that these missives were designed by someone who knows a great deal about sophistry and propaganda techniques.

As for extremism on the Left, those of us who lived thru the Sixties, find that notion laughable -- save that it's all too obviously intended to discredit the first signs of life on the Left in four decades.

For more on the subject, I invite you to visit my latest post Takin' it to the Streets.
Tom, "Teapartian?" Not bad. How 'bout "Teapudlians." My Teapudlian friends. I don't know. Just has a ring to it. But wait, I'm not sure I have any Teapudlian friends. I must have drifted leftward!

Jeanette & Snowden, thanks for yr timely comments. Much appreciated.
I'm not so sure I'd call it a drift so much as a crescendo that precedes the the big wave of a tsunami.
Facts, history and perspective. Ah yes, the lone tools to great leadership, lost on the subterfuge of nonsense reporting the spewing to fill up the sound bites. Let us just begin with some educated people. That alone will eliminate several candidates and perhaps several puppeteers. The real danger is in the puppeteers with an agenda of their own. That is what we have today and the fodder that drives these empty headed politicians to them, money, greed, power. They don't ever really get the power though, only the puppeteers, the master ones, the ones we refuse to see. All the jingoisms on right, left and center are only useful in keeping the audience engaged in the tennis match, the real game is who gets the money, has the money, who has the power to do whatever it is the greedy bastards really want.
Steve
It's Teapartian, as in Martian, because so many of these people strike me as aliens from another planet.
I've heard the term Jubilee for domestic debt forgiveness.
[r] super thorough betrayal by media and politicians. the sad news and where the focus should be is on a citizenry so "confused" -- that is, fused with -- the status quo that except for the super-super betrayed generation of the young and a small percentage of them and a small, small percentage of real lefties -- the citizenry despite the titillation of the OWS movement is prepared to goose-step along to ever-deepening fascism. The Obama con continues to go on, people deciding to put down roots into the "bargaining" phase of the 5 stages of Obama betrayal grief. He's not as bad as the other fascists working for the 1%. After all, he at least is pretending to care whereas the others don't, better pr talking the talk (no one walking the walk) as is a Dem party that kept the con of being friend to the working and middle classes going and thanks to corporate so-called progressive media still is. So what happens next? Why, we try to re-elect Obama because, dear God, how could we possibly rally with each other and take on the government AND the corporate media, and so the segment of Obama "collaborators", a really significant portion of the citizenry still, HOPE Obama becomes a decent human being magically and/or comforts itself that he is, and that it has at least done something asserting for the supposed lesser of two evils like the corporate media shows them each day. Fool us once, blame them. Keep fooling us ... I blame us, the citizenry -- not only the whack-jobs on the right, but the "collaborators" fiercely protecting the rotting status quo, the deniers and the minimizers and the enablers of the faux-lesser evil. the ones now celebrating "victory" in Libya. the war with Libya was and is an international war crime and Obama deserves impeachment for it, not a second term. But to the American "exceptionalists" who invite "LIE TO ME" with every passing day, it is what the magic box tv and corporate press tells them it is. libby
I believe a lot of this is from this idea of "tell both sides" that has become so important so the media can show they are not "liberally biased."

We hear it being said that the media should tell "both sides" of the creation v. evolution debate, or "both sides" of the climate change v. no climate change debate.

Somehow the media has been cowed into giving "both sides" of any debate equal time and, it would seem, equal blame or equal credit.

Perhaps people must absolutely demand that print and other media give "equal time" to the flat earth v. round earth debate--maybe then they could at least get the hint of the absurdity of the position that the left and the right have both become "uncompromising."

The one thing the two sides of the spectrum have become equally is ineffectual: the right because they are asses, the left because they need to grow a pair.
Steve: I personally think this is your most erudite piece. If I could rate it more than once, I would.

In my opinion, you are absolutely correct. The GOP leadership and the "corporatists," so to speak, are ruling through the manufacturing of crises/emergencies that require snap-decision making by Democrats (much akin to the way an angry Prosecutor turns up the heat in Plea Bargaining and reduces a very complex case to a 2 minute discussion, telling the Defense attorney that he is overworked and simply has no time to discuss the Constitution, that he can take the deal, or go to trial, no more compromise, no more discussion). To further these snap-decisions, the GOP has manufactured an ideology that is simplistic and enables their members to flourish and excel at decisisve decision making in a crisis and emergency-prone environment. A simplistic rule-book, so to speak. The thing is, the decisions they make often work-out well for them, but not for the country as a whole.


The Democrats, well, at least most of them, want compromise and are desperate to compromise, lest the country and our democracy be threatened. I am reminded of Neville Chamberlain at Munich, or even Cato during the Roman Civil War, trying to work out some sort of last minute compromise, no matter how egregious, just in order to salvage the peace and avoid the catastrophe to come.

I think the GOP wants their rank and file to be extreme as this gives them a strong bargaining chip. Regardless of what Karl Rove, Kissinger and other conservative sages say in public about the Tea Party, they very well know that it has helped them and they would not relish doing without them, especially since the clout of the Christian Coalition has been waning in recent years. They need some sort of populist base to compete with the left-populist base, Labor (even though this is very small and growing smaller by the day).

Regardless, the GOP wants crisis and flourishes in crisis through simplistic radicalism, which enables them to be ideologically decisive. The Dems want compromise, because they still have hope that our democracy can be salvaged and our current "bad times" are just a phase we will "get through" if we don't give-in to the darker angels of our nature.

What if the Dems are wrong though, and all these compromises merely enable and empower the beast, rather than tame him through the shackles of civilized, democratic deliberation?

r
RW, Thank you for the compliment. As to snap-decision making, what? like giving in to a little war in Iraq over fake WMD? It has been a rich history, one that flirts with outright abrogation of responsibility. And it extends all the way to the manufactured "debt ceiling crisis." Leftists indeed.
p.s. impressed this made it to the cover. kudos for whom you apparently are, and that os' electronic fence goes a bit wider than i thought.
1. prior to this new era (sort of started in the clinton presidency, but his leadership, for better or, more likely, worse, was strong enough to push past it), there was nasty hatred, and bitter partisanship, but the issues of the day were still the issues of the day. None of these current crop of assholes care about any issue other than their party winning the issue. And they will abuse things like the filibuster (though, I would like to see them try this, since only threats have been made) to make sure it happens.

2. Bad economy plus civics-retarded citizenry = radical hatred of whomever is a little different and in the vicinity. I don't think we're anywhere near the worst of it yet, either.


The country always goes to the right during a tough economic time. People get scared and the apple pie and nuclear weapons that the GOP is selling is appealing during these times. It's ridiculous, but appealing to some when fear overcomes them. Unfortunately, the dems are selling the same BS.

For the 1st time ever, I do not care who wins any race in my state or on the federal level. It doesn't matter.

(actually, I'll root for Bachman, just for entertainment value...)
And Kucinich still has a little juice...Ohio listens to him...
Great piece. You've said so well what I've been thinking for a long time. Thank you!
What drives it is the true nature of right wing authoritarianism- its hair trigger propensity for violence. This is what is constant throughout history. No one wants to admit it, well, because they are scared of what they might do, after all, there can be NO DOUBT they'll kill anyone in their way if they get the chance, any stroll down history lane proves that. Two quick examples are Gore's acquiescence of the presidency after Cheney's selection as Leader by his, drum roll please, right wing authoritarian friends Thomas and Scalia- Gore feared what the coming coup they would attempt might do to the World- in hindsight it would have been less damaging than the last decade. Example Two: The absolute and utter naivete and credulity of thinking our BLACK HAWAIIAN FEARLESS LEADER could somehow push through the progressive agenda without the South and parts of the Midwest and Southwest literally attacking others over this UPPITY you know what trying to correct their horrid and backward ways. Again, to claim otherwise is to live in the Land of Credulity- or, the Land of CNN, which is now Fox Lite, a disgrace which is it quite instructive that Mr. Turner no longer makes any claim to.

Auwe (Alas)
Great article. Yes, we are all so tired of common sense, pragmatic, middle of the road proposals being labeled by the right as "radical left wing ideas," and the supposed "liberal" media always bending over backwards to present a "balanced" viewpoint. Sorry about all the quotation marks...
The Tories and Labour in the 40s and 50s UK, that was ideological partisanship. Or the extreme case of the Nazis and Communists in 1930s Germany. Today's Dems are middle of the road compromisers. An more extreme version that might fit the accusation could include a pledge for a carbon tax, single-payer, state-run health care, restoring the high-end tax rates to their 1970s levels, legalizing marijuana and assisted suicide, or a financial transaction (Tobin) tax. They're far away from any of these measures. You're entirely right Steve. The Repubs have devolved into a mad-as-hell, extremist faction. Nuance is for dubious appeasers and it's no good if it can't fit on a bumper-sticker.
starting paragraph is dull
Excellent piece, Steve.

"Ours is a retrograde conservatism, a baptismal conservatism that clings far more to articles of faith than logic or analysis.  And the news media, particularly the daily newspaper segment, has moved right along with the Tea Party nation. "- yes, yes, yes. There's the crux of the matter, right there, although the rest of your piece fleshes out the detail beautifully.
The Republicans have nothing. More specifically, they aren't even the party of money/privilege. For Gods sake, even Warren Buffett is now a card carrying Democrat.

As a result, they have created one of the most bizarre shaped 'tents' in history to try to get to 51%.

Including becoming a political party of economic luddites that seems to relish a replay of the great depression. Specifically, Rick Perry's overt pitch to tighten monetary policy. This puts him in direct opposition to Milton Freedman.

The people I consider to be bona fide Tea Party types are the Red State nut jobs that slipped into congress during the midterms. Even the establishment Republicans can't figure out what to do with them.

Their willingness to dive over a cliff presented the Republicans with the best opportunity they will see in their lifetime to do a deal on favorable terms, but the nut jobs weren't disciplined enough to do ANYTHING.

Back to the Republicans. Instead of simply favoring the rich -- which makes sense, they are stuck with the following:

1. The 2nd Amendment types that want our citizens armed to the teeth.

2. Everyone that want to criminalize abortion.

3. Everyone that believes that evolution is fiction.

Sure they have plenty of people that aren't overt nut jobs, but they are stuck with a residue of insanity.

The point being that I fully agree with your argument that there is no drift to the left. And yes, the Democrats wanted compromise and were acting as adults and got nowhere.

However, I don't see that right and left have much to do with anything anymore.
It is amazing to hear it said that the Tea Baggers are patriots and the OW's are terrorists or just lazy lay abouts. It seems there is more talk about where they are relieving themselves than the reason they are there.
What an eloquent and well stated essay, well deserved EP.
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A loss of historical perspective and false equivalencies go a long way toward explaining current, radically-rightshifted Conventinal Wisdom. It reminds me of an old satirical sketch from decades about (SNL?) in which an TV announcer says, "Some people say all Jews should be massacred. Others say no Jews should be massacred. We here at Channel 7 believe the answer lies somewhere in the middle between these two extremes. We reject the extremists of both sides! We call upon advocates of each position to find a reasonable, responsible middle ground between these two extremes. A reasonable compromise, a centrist position that respects the interests of both sides." That' what politics is about, isn't it? Compromise! Reasonable men and women work to achieve a middle-of-the-road position. That's what being sane, responsible, and reasonable is all about, right?
I used to have high hopes for Dennis Kucinich.
suppose for a moment that both parties had drifted 'right.'

suppose both were convinced they would prosper by serving the rich, and forgetting the poor.

that seems to be the case.

eventually a socialist party will emerge, but it will be useless. since it will be unfunded and unable to deliver results quickly.

the other common result is a military coup, either from the left or right, gaining adequate legitimacy from the widespread perception that elective oligarchy does not work.

which outcome do you prefer?
"I would argue that Americans have seen so little in the way of left wing policy in recent years that they wouldn’t know it if they saw it. "
Exactly.
There are no left wing extremists in government now. The problem, in my view, began when Bill Clinton and the Democratic Leadership Council decided that in order to win in 1992 they had to become centrist. They did this by championing progressive social causes while becoming fiscally conservative. It got Clinton elected, twice, but moved the left to the center. The result has been that, in order to distinguish themselves from the "Liberal Left" the right has had to move out onto the skinny branches with the wacko right.
The decisions of the late 80s and early 90s to abandon the principles that had set Democrats apart was not good for our country.
In my mind there is a cartoon of healthcare reform as it should have been with a caped crusader with "Medicare for All" in the oval on his chest standing next to a Frankenstein monster made up of body parts that don't fit together and the label O'Romneycare on his chest. What we needed was a complete restructuring of healthcare delivery with a means to rationalize both services and reimbursement. All of the major players in the delivery of care should have had to come to the table.
I don't know what will happen with the Occupy movement. Our two party system essentially forces any group to join one party or the other. Had the Tea Party maintained a third party status it would have killed both their chances and the chances of Big Business Republicans. The same would happen if true progressives tried to form a third party.
The Tea Party is the repackaged Christian Coalition. I don't believe that the actual center has shifted right. I do believe that the changes in media (24 hour news cycles, totally partisan fake news networks) have a created a real and scary advantage to the right.

Terrific and thought provoking post!
This is a truly excellent article which clearly states what I've been trying to understand for years. WELL DONE!

(Because I'm a socially liberal fiscal conservative, I USED to be a member of the Log Cabin Republicans. Now I'm MUCH closer aligned with the Green Party's platform. The thing is NONE of my views have changed!)
BTW Steve, I found this article because it was favorable mentioned on Sen. Bernie Sanders web page. To me, that's every bit as impressive as the well deserved EP and cover.
Amy, you found the link on Bernie Sanders' web page? OMG, there's my 15 minutes right there!
Great post, Steve. I think the corporate media drives a lot of this false equivalence because that's all they know how to cover. Cable news is geared for covering two things: wars and sporting events. You don't have to be an internet maven to get nuanced coverage, but you do have to take an interest, and... Jesus, "Pawn Stars" is coming on. Gotta go!
It's in the para titled "Extremism" after your article! :D

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=b2d6f4cf-b9ac-45fa-8d83-405299631e0b

Good for YOU, dude! Bernie liking you is the Gold Standard, IMO! ;)
Historical perspective? By creating the EPA, Richard Nixon proved that he was a raving Socialist.

A terrific essay, Steve.
wouldn't know it if they saw it--true.
I remember as long as as Eric Severied's last broadcast (what--twenty or thirty years ago) when he said: "The future of this country is in whether or not the center will hold."

I think the only persons who heard it are Obama and Clinton, except Clinton was luckier since the economy was on his side.

What's happened is a lot more guys have learned to make money appealing to the fringe, and now there are thousands if not millions who do not understand the difference between politics and ideology, but as my father used to say: "What else is new kid?"

Don't you ever come visit anybody elses blog? I wrote about one of your fellow Minneapoleans today. I wonder if you know him--a great man.
The he did so she did thing is a warty outgrowth of the master wart of having a right-wing "balance" crybaby presence for a couple of decades or so. Mid-nineties, at least.
Just another example of the fantasy land America has become.
Ben, I do try, really, and comment when I have something to say. Robert Bly, no, I do not know him, though I know many people who do, or have. And I think he is wonderful, a cultural treasure, a beacon even, and thank you for writing a piece that refers to him. How would he regard this "split," this drifting? We could only ask.

Paul, "a warty outgrowth of the master wart;" maybe the funniest phrase ever on OS. I mean, what is that? You rock it, Dude.
I live in the South and nobody believes in evolution here. A colleague called me a communist for suggesting that the public school system was not in fact completely broken deserved to remain intact since access to education is a cornerstone of democracy. The colleague did not understand why everybody who was working class or poor did not simply pay for private school tuition.

One thing I resent (not implied in your writing) is the idea that the left and the right need to compromise and meet in the middle. No. We don't. For one thing most in the right are so far from this mythical middle they would have to hop on an airplane to get there and I am not comfortable giving up on my basics which I do not see as being spectacularly left. It also bothers me to see so called "liberals" have crazy jackasses from the right on their shows and treat them with respect. Actually I stopped watching those stupid pundit shows a long time ago. They suck. They aren't news. Thanks for this great piece.
Paula, thanks for making that important point. Just because the right moves to ultra-right, it doesn't drag the "center" along with it. It just makes compromise with reasonable, principled people who refuse to surrender long-established core values in an attempt to find a middle ground. And I thoroughly agree that public education deniers have no standing in a reasonable debate. Nor do those who deny evolution. Compromise is to be valued, but when pure sell-out is demanded by the other side, just ignore them. There are outcomes worse than gridlock in some, perhaps many, cases.
Steve,

I had not seen this piece before, but you make a point that cannot be made often enough: That the "radicalism" of Barack Obama is measured, not by the actual events of American history, but entirely according to far right metrics that have only existed for little more than a decade.

The people calling Obama radical are the same ones who think the New Deal was radical Socialism, too. And if we are not vigilant they will begin judging the Constitutional Convention of 1787 to be the work of dangerous collectivists as well!

The pieces are now all falling neatly into place, just as Lewis Latham described in his famous Harper's piece Tentacles of Rage. The project begun with Lewis Powell's famous 1971 memo to the the business community that corporate interests had to retake American culture in the name of laissez faire is now playing itself out within a Republican Party that has successfully purged RINOs like me, state governments that are dismantling what remains of the Democratic Party infrastructure and the radicalized Federalist Society alumni on the Supreme Court ready to wipe the slate of American history clean in the service of a vision of governance in which the interests of an economic plutocracy mesh seamlessly with the classic Catholic affinity for paternalistic hierarchy.