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JUNE 23, 2012 11:08PM

Hearing Their Voices

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In a film by German Lutz Becker ,called Double - Headed Eagle, a collection of newsreel footage tells it's own story of the rise of fanaticism in Germany, from 1918 to the 1933 beginnings of World War II. It was the birth of it all, you might say, the growth of Nazi power and the framework of the Third Reich.

The eagle represents sovereignty, and the double heads represent the double stamp of approval, both by man AND god.


Hitler was part of Germany's destruction during WWI, and saw a fiercely proud nation morally destroyed.  Germany had Her spirit broken after the war.

He began his rise to power and one of the great things he did was rebuild the sense of "civil religion" where people had faith in the nation again.  That was one of the heads (the approval of man).

His total control of the emotional feeling of the country combined with the total stamping out of all religious activity gave him the right to use the second head on his eagle for his crest.

Hence, he claimed the double headed eagle." by Psychic Spy 2005

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=107371 

 

 

 A flag waving on Main Street in our town yesterday afternoon, cast a shadow onto a brick wall behind it. Driving by in our Tahoe, I was sitting in the passenger seat, enjoying the late afternoon sun.

I had just looked to the right as the flag and shadow suddenly came into view,  I was quite taken with it. I thought the shadow looked like a flame. Later I recalled that it was not unlike the flame on the cross found as the trademark of the Methodist church these days.

So the flag against the wall, was like a flame.  Was it strange that it immediately seemed to be a flag which could break down a wall of barriers. A flame of change?

A definition of a barrier can be different for all people. In my thoughts it was various barriers; against women, minorities and those not as privileged as the  one percent. It was my view of the world, it was more and more about things that disturbed me, that the flame would burn through the barriers, the brick walls, the things which blocked others out.

My daughter, the driver, wondered what I furiously wrote down and we had a discussion about it. One flag which burns down barriers might be also a flag which is building barriers because in the multicultural or world view there are many kinds of ways to become nationalistic, fanatical and dangerous to those who are different.

So the flames were good or bad depending on your perspective, the wall coming down perhaps good or bad, but how is it perceived? Through the influence of circumstance, of leadership, of propaganda and expectation, also the walls come down. There are always flames involved. Flames of passion, of justice, of danger, of hatred, making a hell for those who want to live just in the status quo. The status quo changes. It swings too, from good at times, through good and into evil. Just ask the Germans.

My mind carried me back to the brief clip of the Double-Headed Eagle; I had seen and I heard them. I heard the people who shouted for the flames of changes, I heard them chant as the brick wall of civilized Germany was torn down to somehow make way for a new Germany. I heard their voices, their passion, they believed.

I can hear them now, here. I worry about them, what they are saying, what they are doing. I know they want change, but I don't believe they are ready for the kind of change that is coming.

Flames burn people, brick walls crush them. Stewardship of passion is difficult if stirred by propaganda to hideous extreme, leadership corrupted by greed and unregulated power makes for chaos. Power corrupted is easily missed in it's process to flames. 

What did I see? I saw change. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 From the website of the United Methodist Church

History and Significance

"The history and significance of the Cross and Flame emblem are as rich and diverse as The United Methodist Church. The insignia's birth quickly followed the union of two denominations in 1968: The Methodist Church and the Evangelical United Brethren Church.

Following more than two dozen conceptualizations, a traditional symbol—the cross—was linked with a single flame with dual tongues of fire. The resulting insignia is rich in meaning. It relates The United Methodist church to God through Christ (cross) and the Holy Spirit (flame). The flame is a reminder of Pentecost when witnesses were unified by the power of the Holy Spirit and saw "tongues, as of fire" (Acts 2:3).

The elements of the emblem also remind us of a transforming moment in the life of Methodism's founder, John Wesley, when he sensed God's presence and felt his heart "strangely warmed." The two tongues of a single flame may also be understood to represent the union of two denominations.

The insignia, one with lettering and one without, was formally adopted by the General Conference in 1968 and registered in 1971 with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Since 1996, the General Council on Finance and Administration (GCFA) of The United Methodist church has supervised the emblem's use."

 http://www.fandor.com/films/double_headed_eagle

 The Double Headed Eagle: Hitler's Rise to Power 1918-1933 presents a unique and disturbing look at the rise of the Nazi party. The documentary, directed by Lutz Becker, attempts to remain as objective as possible, serving as a neutral observer of the years 1918 through 1933 in Germany. Via newsreel footage and clips of features from the era, the film offers a kaleidoscopic view of the many elements that fueled the rise of the Socialist Nationalist Party, including post-WWI poverty. Hitler occupies a central place in the documentary. ~ Betsy Boyd, Rovi


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/the-double-headed-eagle-hitler-s-rise-to-power-1918-1933#ixzz1yfro0iAn

  http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=3206

Copyright 2012 by SheilaTGTG55 

 

 

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This is an amazing and strange train of thought that just came together in my head the other day. Thought it might give you some pause and interesting thoughts too.
Keep thinking this way! RATED.
Jon: Sometimes I wonder if it something I ate....but then I realize history has a way of continuing to teach us about ourselves and gives us plenty of reference points when we see change coming.
I agree with you Sheila.. I dont know a lot about Methodist church except what I have read here but in Canada it was the only church to go against gay marriage.. and I think very few people like or allow change even though they say they do.
HUGGGGGGGG
this is so cool... a glimpse into your thoughts and how the swing back to connect. i love the insides of other people's heads!
Linda: That is interesting about the Methodist Church. I was just struck by the resemblance of what I saw in the shadow, it looked like their symbol. It helped me recognize it as a flame. As to change, it is difficult for so many, except those who benefit the most by it. For a long time women have been starved of positive changes for their gender, in pay, in legal rights and in reproductive rights, the thing is now, there is a push to go backwards on most of that. Why?

Lorianne: Yes, I have one of those strange brains that seem to connect with bits and pieces and try to make sense out of what I am seeing. Thanks for reading!
It did give me pause and fomented some interesting thoughts as well.
It did give me pause and fomented some interesting thoughts as well.
I think the way most of us are is one big habit, one big collections of addictions almost. We take comfort in the familiar, even when it is awful. If we weren't afraid of change our world would be so much better then it is already. I also believe some big change is approaching, and pray that there will be a majority courageous enough to embrace necessary change and shape that change in a way that makes for a better life for all, and to do it in a way that is not destructive to anything but that which has and is expiring.
*but I don't believe they are ready for the kind of change that is coming.*

That.

Rated for it's getting dark.. I hope dawn isn't far behind.
Mary: Yes, a way to think presents itself in many random moments in life. I seem to be doing a lot of thinking lately.

Maria: Change is on the horizon.

Seer: I also share this hope.
Your post are always informative and interesting, Sheila. Thank you for this one.

R♥
Fusun: Thank you for your visit. It is amazing how the mind works and what can be seen...
Your good and today your great!
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I'm glad I'm finally catching up here. It's fascinating to hear about the links and jumps that happen in your mind. It's scary sometimes thinking about history, especially Germany, and what people did when things changed. People can react badly or make poor choices. I guess sometimes anyone can look like a hero when you want someone to save you.

I don't mind change although it usually is work, especially in figuring out what's the best thing to do. I like to change myself because there's generally a reward or relief in it. I'm glad I don't resist it, resistance to change always creates so much chaos and trouble that I find it was less work to just change.
Algis! Kind of sexy don't you think?????

le' Heure: Good conclusions all.
I like how your mind works...

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Barb: Thank you! I am most attracted to minds and how they work.
What an unusual post. I am interested in all of this. On winter solstices, our family burns paper where we have written out things that we want to be rid of for the next year. For the first three years, I had raging fevers the next day...flu? Coincidence?The Weimar republic was a very interesting case study.
Hitler's rise to power had more to do with the hyper-inflation and economic collapse of Germany as it did with propaganda... heaven help us all if the EURO implodes.