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Saturn Smith

Saturn Smith
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Everything posted here, and more random thoughts, are also posted at my web site: http://kepkanation.com.

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FEBRUARY 15, 2010 2:51PM

The Bayh Good-Bye: Why "centrism" is dead for Democrats

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4EC319E0-B96B-49F4-8DCC-A7F61FD9D6A2.jpgSo Evan Bayh is quitting the Senate:

“After all these years, my passion for service to my fellow citizens is undiminished, but my desire to do so in Congress has waned,” Mr. Bayh said in prepared remarks. “My decision was not motivated by political concern. Even in the current challenging environment, I am confident in my prospects for re-election.”

Whatever his official statement lists as the reason, I believe that Bayh -- like his "centrist" contemporary in Hair Awesomeness, John Edwards -- suffers from a chronic need to be the center of attention. After eight full years of being a real star in Washington, it's become apparent that he's no longer anyone's darling. Ergo, quit.

The stretch from 2001 to 2009 was a beautiful time, after all, to be a conservative Democrat. You could spend half of your time expressing Democratic frustration with the agenda of the majority party, and the other half expressing your conservative conscience by voting along with your GOPals. This allowed Bayh to earn a wicked reputation as a guy willing to reach across the aisle, a bi-partisan hero from the heartland. Even Fox News says so.

Gag.

The problem with being an outlier in your own party is that if that party comes to power, you are suddenly extremely unpopular. The narrow victory of Barack Obama in Bayh's home state must have been bittersweet. That old part-time commitment to bitching about how Obstructionist and Removed from Reality the other party is must now be redirected -- and if you call your own party Removed from Reality too many times, well, they're gonna hit you back. If you decide to vote your conservative conscience, you're no longer a bi-partisan hero, you're a traitor. And here, in a nutshell, is the legacy of Evan Bayh.

Of course it didn't have to be this way. Bayh could have gone the Ben Nelson route and held the White House and Congress hostage with demands for his state in return for possibly voting on their agenda items. All-in-all, I think quitting may be the better part of valor, here, and I'd be happy to see Nelson and Blanche Lincoln go this same route. Barring that, though, I'd say this could at minimum be a valuable lesson to Olympia Snowe: Your fifteen minutes could be up as soon as 2012.

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Interesting analysis as always, Saturn. I had no idea what Bayh's record was, so this was enlightening.

Sounds like this means his seat will go Rep next time?
This should have been top storied on OS instead of that Republican propaganda about what a good guy Bayh was that is up there now.
I want to see McCain, Snowe, Collins, Lindsey Lohan Gramnasty, or to put it another way, I want them all thrown out...on both sides of the aisle. We need new blood and new people in there who have actually read the Constitution.
agreed...Blanche, see ya...xx a
I am not at all surprised that this spin would be applauded here. Moderates are no good. The party is not different enough from the other side. There's a need to get to core roots. Praise from the other side is propaganda. Indeed. The sentiment and applauding commentary signify a lot of what is wrong with the current state of our national discourse. It's demonizing, mocking, and disrespectful of people who do not hew to a rigid ideology, but seek to vote their conscience.
At least he didn't pull that, "I didn't leave the party, the party left me," nonsense!
I'll simply repeat my comment from elsewhere:

While the motivations for anyone's acts can never be fully known – even to them – I suspect the face Bayh puts on this is not quite so noble. Were I a cynic, I might wonder if his decision wasn’t at least influenced by the fact he profits handsomely from he and his wife’s connection with the health-insurance industry. But far be it from me to suggest anyone in Washington might be unduly influenced by that public-spirited industry.

What I can say with a reasonable degree of certainty that having been immersed in hard-core politics his entire life – including even as a child – Bayh certainly should have been aware of the ways and wiles of Washington. Further, his decision is a sign he lacks the ability to keep these trying days in proper historical perspective.

I see a post coming, in which I put these matters in perspective -- tho I doubt it will do Bayh -- or anyone else save for me -- any good. I know I'll feel better for ranting.
I think the fact that you've been able to narrow your list of Congress people wanting to be the center of attention to two (and one a former Senator at that) is nothing short of amazing. Self-promotion is what "serving" the people is really all about these days. But maybe Congress does represent America, an place where where everyone is an expert, held back only by his or her relative powerlessness and the problem that everyone else is an idiot we couldn't possibly work with.

I love my Congressman but believe him to be virtually alone in his ability to both listen and talk, vote his conscience and work cooperatively with others in his party. It must be very lonely for him. R
He will only be missed by the lobbyists who own him.
Just makes me so happy to read this, thanks.
I am glad you posted this. Bayh and his lovely wife are no heroes. He was one of the voices responsible for the mess we are in currently. He refused to be a Democrat and is one of the voices that has ended up empowering the right and derailing Obama. I think of him as another Lieberman. A sell-out and traitor. Good riddance. He makes this announcement a week before the filing deadline? That proves how much he thinks of his former party. I agree with Dorsey Shaw here.
Has anyone thought that Evan does not seek re-election because he really is sick of the crap in Washington? There probably is no ulterior motive here. He feels as many in mainstream america do. And many are not far-right nor far-left. Cool people are the monkey's in the middle. Far lefter's and far-righter's do not ever decide the election outcomes. The monkey's do. The monkey's also compromise for the greater good. Since when has an extremist ever been willing to compromise? Maybe we should start a monkey party.
Or he is doing what the Founding Fathers envisioned: put down your plows, go to Washington, do the right thing by your constituents then leave Washington, and return to your farm.

Politicians were never supposed to be a full-time, lifetime position, thereby allowing corruption to rule the day. To the rest of the Senators in Washington today: Get a job.
Maybe you should start it, stevie pottie mouth.
What really galls me is that really, Bayh and the other Conservadems created the problem that Bayh now claims is driving him from Washington. They have failed (or refused to learn) that attempting to compromise with the current breed of Washington Republican cultivates not collegiality but contempt.

If Evan had half the principle and conviction of his old man, he would have been less concerned with being at the center of things and more concerned with having principles--and then standing on them.
This is bad news for the Democrats and the Republic.
It is bad news for the Democrats because it encourages the socialists among them.
It is bad news for the Republic, because it encourages the fascists in the Republican Party, who, if it comes down to a contest between fascists and socialists, the fascists win, even though centrists ought to.
There's no center, only centrists.
It's real funny how you far lefties denegrate a decent guy. Guys like Evan Bayh are admired by the majority of the people of this country. I wouldn't be surprised if he runs for President. Maybe Obama will throw in the towel for 2012. Better yet, maybe the common sense Democrats and Independants will back Mr Bayh's bid to go up against Obama for the Democratic nomination in 2012. I believe this is in the cards. You guys are so funny.
As with most of these guys, their true motives can be discovered via the time-honored maxim of "Follow the money." Somehow, he benefits more from leaving now than staying. Can we all say "influence peddling?"
"Centrism?" You mean "Old school conservatism?" What the Reagan Devolution did to this nation has been catastrophic.
Here's the thing that people forget: Bayh is from Indiana. Hoosier voters elect him, not the rest of the country. No Democrat is going to get elected to major national office from Indiana unless they are so conservative that they would be a Republican anywhere else.

Obama narrowly took Indiana in the last election only because of Lake County, which is 1.) the second most populous county, 2.) almost entirely black, and 3.) literally next door to Chicago. All but a handful of Indiana counties went Republican.

Oh...and trust me. Indiana could elect a lot, lot worse. Mike Pence, anyone?
Bayh Bye, the Hoosiers are better off without you, if Republican John Hotstetler gets elected Washington will be in for a long run of Hoosier Hysteria that will make the Nebraska hold out look like a Boys Scout outing...Yup, a friggin Hellstorm is coming your way DC - like none you've ever experienced. This wild and crazy guy once elected, will again return to DC to raise the roof off Capital Hill like no other. Plus, this time he'll be around as long as Jesse Helms, what an awful thought... But, massive amounts of $$$$$$$ will flow to the Hoosier state just to shut him up, it'll be wicked - the Dude is raring to go back to the Hill too kick some sleasy arse, and gawd knows there's plenty to go around on both sides of the ticket. Johnny Rocket's coming to town to paint it red, best get out of the way of this young, restless and somewhat crazy politician, go getum bro you got to be half nuts to want to be there anyway, should work out just fine!!!
This may have something to do with his wife, Susan, who has earned a ton of money sitting on 8 boards, one of which is health care.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the motto of Indiana politics:

"The only thing that will kick you out of office is being found in bed with a dead woman or a live man."

We hope the domino effect works for Kent Conrad, Max Baucus, Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, and Mary Landrieu.
A very realistic commentary, Ms. Kepka. We Californians are used to the agony of attempting to locate a deliberating and acting legislature in this polarized hell. Toss out all those not able to pass a conservative or liberal litmus test, and we have gridlock.
Discouraged politicians then can behave, on both sides of the aisle, like Twiddledum and Twiddledee, taking corporate money and kicking back.
Frustrated citizens, angry at corruption and gridlock, will then be sitting ducks for demagogues who yell a lot.
If we succumb to that demagoguery, we can kiss our what used-to-be more Democratic Republic goodbye.
Then we can our a**es goodbye.
Centrism for Democrats is "dead?" With Reid in solid control of the agenda? With Obama getting his back? When Reid is gone, replaced by someone as strong as Feingold or stronger in pursuit of objectives from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party, when 51 or more stout-hearted Democratic Senators vote to eliminate the filibuster, when HCR with a robust public option is passed, when the growth of the AfPak War is capped, when the free-roaming "moderate" Democrats in the Senate are whipped into voting for the Party line, when all that and more comes to pass, THEN I'll believe that "Centrism" is dead, or at least quiescent, for Democrats.
Leanna Nolting's comment sums it up.