Why Rick Santorum would have killed my daughter
Next month, my daughter Ella will turn 11-years-old. She’s a beautiful girl, with blond hair and green eyes. She’s an amazing artist, a brilliant writer, and she can do the splits without even warming up.
And if I hadn’t had an amniocentesis, she would have died the day she was born.
Just over 11 years ago, I received a call from my obstetrician’s assistant to let me know that there was an anomaly in my recent blood test. “It’s probably just a testing error,” she assured me.
But when I returned the following week to have the blood test redone, the anomaly showed up again. There was a foreign antibody in my blood stream that shouldn’t have been there. I was six months pregnant, and up to that point my pregnancy had been completely normal.
Rather than turning to my local politician for prenatal advice, I followed the guidance of my obstetrician, who sent me to a perinatologist, who recommended I have an amniocentesis. Because he had a medical degree and years of experience treating pregnant women, I followed his recommendation.
That day, he stuck an alarmingly long needle directly into my growing belly to sample the amniotic fluid around my baby. The results weren’t good. She had Rh negative disease.
Rh negative disease occurs when a mother has a negative blood type and a baby has a positive blood type. My negative blood perceived Ella’s positive blood as a foreign body that it needed to destroy. And that’s what it was doing. Every day, little by little, my body was wiping out every one of her red blood cells.
Before the 1960s, Rh negative disease was responsible for the deaths of thousands of babies whose mothers, like me, had negative blood. They usually carried their babies to term and gave birth to them, only to have them die or suffer extreme brain damage as a result of the anemia and jaundice that occurs with this illness.
In the 60s, a drug called RhoGAM was approved by the FDA to prevent this disease, and it has since saved hundreds of thousands of lives. In almost every case when it is administered in time it is effective. But in my case, it wasn’t.
Amniocentesis is the recommended test to diagnose this disease, and it enables doctors to define a course of action to treat and monitor these babies for the best possible medical outcome. Had I not had that amniocentesis I likely would not have discovered that she had this illness. I would have carried her to term, given birth to her, and watched her die in my arms.
Instead, thanks to the amniocentesis, my doctor tracked her progress relentlessly. Every week after that I had another (expensive) prenatal screening test, called a serial ultrasound, through which he was able to monitor the anemia that grew steadily worse as more of her blood cells were destroyed -- and track the development of her lungs so that she could be delivered at the best possible moment for her safety. The day he saw that her lungs could function on their own, he delivered her.
Ella was born four weeks premature, a tiny five-pound bag of bones, with bright yellow hair and eerily orange skin from the jaundice. Within hours of her birth she was given a full blood transfusion – they replaced every single drop of her damaged blood with new blood that would save her life. Then she spent the next five days in the NICU with cotton blinders taped over her eyes and five bilirubin lights shining on her to reduce the jaundice, while my husband and I took turns sitting at her side round the clock, watching her struggle to survive.
For months after she came home, she had to have weekly blood tests to make sure the anemia was in control. They had to draw the blood from her heel because her fingers were too tiny to prick. Finally, at three months her own defenses kicked in and she started producing her own red blood cells.
Happily, she made a full recovery and has no lingering effects from the disease. And it’s all thanks to that one medical test.
If Rick Santorum had his way, I wouldn’t have been able to get that test, and she most likely would have died. Because according to him, tests that give parents vital information about the health of their unborn children are morally wrong. Though he has no medical training, and no business commenting on the medical decisions that women and their doctors make, he argues that such tests shouldn’t be provided, or that employers at least should be allowed to opt out of paying for them on “moral grounds.”
Eleven years ago, my husband and I had two kids and a mortgage, and like most young families we didn’t have $2,000 to pay for a test that my husband’s employer might object to on moral grounds.
So, while Mr. Santorum may think that his blowhard opinions about when and where women should be allowed to have medical tests is righteous, I say it’s ignorance.
In the Catholic church where I was raised, pride, arrogance and an overinflated sense of oneself were considered sins. But in Rick Santorum’s world they are virtues, and they make up the foundation from which he proclaims how other people should live their lives.
When I read stories in the news about countries where women are prevented access to birth control, or the freedom to work, or the right to make choices about their bodies and their lives, I wonder how a leadership with such crazy ideals could ever gain power. But as I look at what’s happening in the debates leading up to this presidential election in our own country, it has become chillingly evident.
As a nation, we are at the precipice of a slippery slope where men in power are arguing about how to take basic rights away from women. I shudder to think what lays at the bottom of that slope, but if Rick Santorum has his way we will all soon find out.


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Now if only someone would remind Rick and his ilk that he came out of a woman, so maybe he should show that gender more respect!
From the article:
•Objected to including some prenatal tests in federal insurance mandates, saying the tests lead to more abortions.
"A lot of prenatal tests are done to identify deformities in utero, and the customary procedure is to encourage abortions," he said. "We know that 90% of Down syndrome children in America are aborted." At a campaign event over the weekend in Columbus, Ohio, he said the tests effectively "cull the ranks of the disabled in our society."
Denying rights, especially medical care to anyone and then to appeal to "moral" reasons is incredibly immoral. If the GOP insists on making Santorum their nominee, then I hope he crashes and burns irreparably in the eyes of every thinking voter in this nation. One good thing about all this blatant nonsense on the Right; they have been exposed as the Demagogues that they truly are. Once a danger is in plain sight, it becomes easier to fight.
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"The bottom line is that a lot of prenatal tests are done to identify deformities in utero and the customary procedure is to encourage abortions,” Santorum said during an appearance on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” He said he was talking specifically about some, but not all, prenatal testing, and not about prenatal care in general. He said “there are all sorts of prenatal testing which should be provided free,” such as sonograms.
Santorum, whose young daughter Bella has the genetic disorder Trisomy 18 and was recently hospitalized, singled out amniocentesis, a procedure in which amniotic fluid is extracted to examine chromosomes and check for birth defects, as a form of testing that insurance companies should not be required to cover.
“Amniocentesis does, in fact, result more often than not in this country in abortions,” Santorum said. “That is a fact.”
He said that people have the right to have prenatal testing done, “but to have the government force people to provide it free, to me, is a bit loaded.”
What some don't understand is that the real cost of backsliding is way more than the few dollars involved in keeping women and children healthy. Subjugating the majority of your population is a huge task to undertake which drags the whole society down.
But then, he would have played with her after she was dead.
He is one sick mo-fo.
(BTW: his wife used to shack up with an abortion doctor before she married Sickey-Rickey.)
But, that being said, I don't see a whole lot of government support for the handicapped. My brother was on waiting lists for housing for over 5 years and the housing he got is far from ideal. He'd be better off with some supervision, but he wasn't eligible for that. He's been profoundly handicapped all his life, but he didn't fit into any of the right categories.
When my parents are gone, my sibs and I will have to fill the breach, and I don't mean just in terms of family, but in terms of the substantial and continual work of advocacy and supervision that keeps him functioning. For example, when his rent goes up, how is he going to meet it? This isn't going to be easy, given that I live on a different continent.
Would I bring a child into the world, knowing that his care after my death will be the burden of his siblings? Absolutely not.
But, hey, Rick, if you improved gov't services for the handicapped, so every parent could be sure that their handicapped child would be cared for, maybe that would change.
Not a chance that Mr Santorum would celebrate a death
There is no war on women from the GOP or otherwise ( unless we get sharia law here )
Y'all need to recognize evil
And you need to recognize a smokescreen ( talk about anything but the economy ) when one comes at you
You're sheep
And to the less-than-compassionate person who claimed he "played" with his dead baby, he did not. He brought it home until burial. Do you think the Kennedys were nuts for having JBK in her home until her burial? It is a rather Catholic tradition - one done in Italian and Irish homes rather often for example - are all of these folks nuts?
Santorum: Well, I — what I’ve talked about it with respect is my Catholic faith, which, you know, I, I agree with the Catholic Church on the issue of contraception. But as you know, I mean, I — that’s, that’s a different position than I have with respect to public policy. You know, public policy, women should have access to contraception. I have no problem with that at all. The question is whether some religious organization should be forced to pay for something that they believe is a moral wrong, and the issue is — the answer to that is no. And under the Obama administration policy, they are continuing to be forced to do so.
My grandmother lost two children because of Rh negative disease. I'm proud of you that you partnered with your physician and made brave choices (that needle can't have been fun). Rick Santorum and his agenda make me absolutely sick.
I have never, ever heard anyone advocate for the denial of a medical procedure at the systemic level because it might result in an abortion. Other than, of course, people wanting to ban the medical procedure of abortion, itself.
The question might come up of which tests a person should or shouldn't get and in which situations. But I have never heard anyone advocate that an outside party, beyond the patient and her doctors and family, should influence the decisions of what tests to do and when because of that outside party's moral beliefs.
"he argues that such tests shouldn’t be provided, or that employers at least should be allowed to opt out of paying for them on “moral grounds.”"
"Eleven years ago, my husband and I had two kids and a mortgage, and like most young families we didn’t have $2,000 to pay for a test that my husband’s employer might object to on moral grounds. "
If you wish to make the claim that someone said something you feel is inaccurate, it's best that you verify they did, in fact, say that. In this case, you are demonstrably incorrect.
None of which gets into the fact that the mandate as it stands does not ask for any monetary payment from religious institutions, nor that over 20 states already had laws like this on their books with no complaints.
Further, would you suggest that Jehovah's Witnesses as employers should be allowed exemption from funds for blood transfusions, which they oppose on moral grounds? If not, why is that an exception? It is truly a moral opposition on their part, so it should be the same principle. And to that end--when do we stop making exceptions for medical care that could be necessary for any person's well-being, because someone doesn't think they should pay for it? Why is their conscience/money more important than someone else's life or well-being?
He treats prenatal genetic testing for fatal or seriously disabling conditions, and the means for it (amniocentesis, which is also necessary to find curable conditions) as if it's akin to cosmetic surgery. His tone is as if it's only wanted by people with frivolous or superficial concerns. I have never heard a serious adult considering the value of prenatal genetic testing treat the *tests* themselves as basically a luxury expense.
Rick Santorum has a daughter with a seriously disabling conditon that will prevent her from reaching adulthood. It's not fair that he and his wife had to deal with all of these ethical dilemmas for their daughter. It's also not fair that they had to deal with them 15 years ago in another situation on the opposite side of the "prenatal dilemma spectrum" (that I'm coining right now).
Because of prenatal testing and financial resources, he and his wife were informed of a fatal deformity and were able to attempt an intervention. The surgery lead to a likely complication and his wife lost the baby. It is stunning that he has so little sympathy for other adults forced into the *exact same* situations that he and his wife have had to face. His wife could have died in her efforts to preserve a pregnancy. He seems to expect that level of sacrifice as the minimum from other people in this country. If you have other priorities, you should be punished because he (and at least one person in the chain of command at your workplace) disagrees.
Medical research and the advancements it brings are aimed at ultimately curing or repairing problems, the kind of problems that will kill or greatly damage those whose suffer from them.
19 years ago I held my twin sons Matthew and Christopher in my arms as they died. They were born three months premature. Medical testing and technology had not advanced enough to detect the severity of the problem or to solve it.
What some "undefined person" might have used to decide to have an abortion is for me knowledge and testing that might have saved Matthew and Christopher.
So to Mr. Santorum and the rest of the crew on the hill who decided that women shouldn’t be part of discussion on women’s health care and that they knew better, I ask you:
How will you feel when your dead child, or your dead grand-child or your dead great-grand-child is lying in your arms?
How will you explain to your wife, or your daughter or your grand-daughter that their child has to die because you were afraid of what some undefined, unknown person would do?
To you, Sarah, I say: Enjoy your daughter. She is beautiful and looks very much to be as you describe her, an amazing artist and a brilliant writer.
By the way, I think people should be, and are, to have all the tests they want.
What I'm seeing more frequently in this entire argument is that the issue that Rick Santorum seems to be a lightning rod for is: What should the government pay for, and what should the government force, via law, what companies should pay for in a supposed free market economy. (Which, let's be honest, we don't really have.)
I've seen many arguments about how creating such a law - what insurance companies and organizations need to cover as part of health care reform - is trampling the constitution.
Bull. Companies and organizations have absolutely done this to themselves through greed. Candidates such as Rick Santorum are catering to two groups, one overtly and one COVERTLY. Overtly the candidates are pandering to a very narrow religious fringe. Covertly they are pandering to the corporate "persons" that fund them and do not want such laws in place, so they can profit.
He has said, at least as far as I can find, no such things and has, as I've written here, said people are free and should be free to have such tests.
So the author is misleading her readers.
This is not the same as saying people should not be allowed to have such tests.
Bye now.
You made your point with your first post. The frequency and length of your subsequent posts demonstrate that you have some other agenda going here. Most thinking people have determined that you are either a paid political operative or someone with a terrible obsession. No need to reply to this. We know already what you think.
Well get use to it. As Obamacare and their "ethic panels" come out with what they think should be done to, or for, a person that's exactly what you are going to have. If you are under 15 then you have not contributed enough to society and if you are over 70 then you don't have enough to give. These people don't even refer to you as people but as "units" because once you become people then it changes the debate amount us that are being controlled by them.
So the subject doesn't become who will pay it will become can I have it done at all because once the "ethics panel" makes their decision there is no going around it and paying for it yourself, you're doomed.
and, you must have been raised in a different catholic church than I was, because the arrogance, patriarchy and whatever else you mentioned were, I'm pretty sure, considered virtues in my parish.
congrats on the kid not dying. I'd never heard of that disease before, so that part was useful and interesting.
I would like to know where Rick Santorum got his facts that "99.9%" of all aminos result in abortion. I have had this discussion with friends -- not as some hypothetical strawman scenario -- but when faced with it. Amnio (other tests as well) can result in finding things out that may lead to having to make an ethical/moral decision. If that is the only reason that the test is being done, then the person having it needs to consider if it is worth the risk and judge that against his/her values. I had a friend whose doctor was concerned that her child had Down's. This friend is anti-abortion. "Will the test give you any info that will help you plan for your child? Would it make a significant difference in the pregnancy, birth or life of your child?" was the advice that I gave. Those answers, I consoled, needed to be balanced against the known risks to her pregnancy. I think most doctors would advise similarly. It is not the test itself that poses the moral/ethical dilemma; it is what one does with the information. Mr. Santorum, in my opinion, is in the wrong on this issue, and I find it difficult to believe that he is in the mainstream. But, whether or not he is, are we going to start crowd-sourcing every medical test? Take a popular vote whether something should be allowed or not? That is not how our government was designed to function -- and those on the right that claim that they are on the side of our founding fathers should go back and study their history lessons and stop pandering for a vote. Mr. Santorum has said repeatedly that he does not believe that the constitution contains a right to privacy. For a party that says they want small government, they sure seem to want a big-brother government that imposes morality on its citizens.
And hey, look: Andy Richter likes it, too:
https://twitter.com/#!/Andy_Richter/status/172056476494471168
Not only would Santorum have caused your daughter's death, but he would have allowed, and celebrated your's and your daughter's suffering when she died. Like Job, your child's suffering would have been a "test of faith" for you...
as for the commentors, i am amazed at how many people are willing to state their opinions without a shred of medical evidence or experience. the author stated that she had her Rhogam injections, as recommended, but unfortunately for her, and her unborn child, IT DID NOT WORK. this led to an unexpected complication of her pregnancy, probably picked up at a routine prenatal ultrasound, leading her doctor, or a high risk OB specialist to suggest the amniocentesis. fortunately, they were able to help her, armed with the information and test results needed.
as for Mr. Santorum, do a bit of research, he has some extreme ideas on a number of topics. but i suppose to some reading this, those are mainstream and normal ideas. kind of makes me very scared for the future.
These dim-bulb hypocrites will be only to happy to line-up when stem-cell research finally succeeds in producing cures for disease and injury. Frankly, I have no use for them or their phony Christianity. I can read the Bible, too, and mine says this:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father." John 14:12
Your beautiful baby and my beautiful son are the result of miracles, miracles performed by men and women who had faith that the labors of the hands, hearts and minds would benefit others. This is to me the ultimate expression of godliness, not inquisitions and childish obedience to the superstitious beliefs of men who thousands of year's ago audaciously -- and foolishly -- presumed to read God's mind.
To clarify, let's establish Santorum's position based on the Face the Nation article that you posted: Santorum... singled out amniocentesis... as a form of testing that insurance companies should not be required to cover. “Amniocentesis does, in fact, result more often than not in this country in abortions,” Santorum said. “That is a fact.”
So based on Santorum's own words, his position is that he is not in favor of companies being "forced" to provide for health coverage, should a pregnant woman require it.
The author of this article, S.F. Gale uses hyperbole to essentially make the claim that if Santorum were president, his policies would allow her employer to "opt-out" of paying for a treatment like amniocentesis.
Our author also claims that eleven years ago her family did not have the financial means to pay for a treatment like amniocentesis. We can't confirm this fact, but as good people (and for the sake of argument), let's just take her on her word regarding her financial position.
Okay, at this point I can assume we're all on the same page. Now let's take this one step further.
What if she worked for a Catholic affiliated organization like, St. John's hospital or Notre Dame University? According to Santorum's stated position, the Catholic affiliated organization that employs her should not have to pay for the testing. Given what we know of Mrs. Gale's financial position, she too could not have paid for the testing. The logic here indicates that Mr. Santorum's policy would probably not be so good for Mrs. Gale's baby.
The thing is, we are using hypotheticals to show that this is not a highly improbable scenario.
Nor does the conversation delve into the ludicrous notion that a person (or worse, an organization) should have the option to waive themselves of having to pay for something that they morally object to. If that were the case, there are plenty of people that would have deducted the percentage costs of the Iraq war out of their taxes because they "morally objected" to the war.
So while you are right to clarify Mr. Santorum's position, the thrust of Mrs. Gale's argument is still incredibly valid.
For the record, my comment is not intended to be coming from either right or left. Rather I am making a strictly logical argument, attempting to connect the dots based on the logical positions of the candidate and of Mrs. Gale.
Lot of loopy comments. But of course, Barbara J., and perhaps I, will be excoriated. Fact is, those [probably young, probably not well educated] women who get a free [taxpayer funded] amnio, and are then told to abort by their [government] doctors, will never know that it's simply a cost-saving device. Fewer sick and at-risk babies mean fewer government expenditures. I do not in any way like or admire Santorum. I believe he and his Christian wingnuts are a threat to our secular way of life. But I believe Obama and the plutocrats and leftist ideologues who support him, may actually be the greater threat to our Liberties. First, they make us stupid via bloated school systems which run on the Federal dim; next, then they give us 'free' medical care, in order to cull the 'unfit' unborn from society. And Save $ in the process!! Scary. Very Scary.
I understand this piece has gone viral. It deserves it. I hope it will eventually end up on Santorum's desk. I assume he can read.
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I am rh negative and my husband is rh positive. Our first child was rh positive; our second, our daughter, was rh negative. Before modern testing, our daughter wouldn't have survived. We likely would have experienced several mysterious miscarriages and (perhaps) a live birth with an rh positive fetus.
AND why does our government think they have any right to act as doctors and scientists? At this stage it's -- deregulate EVERYTHING (except women's bodies).
He makes it easy to think..oh he's so stupid, so silly, says such CRAZY things, he'll never get elected.
think again.
Take a look at your insurance plan. I'm willing to bet there are lists of things that are excluded from the policy. Under the impression of everybody here there should not be anything exempt from your policy. Have you asked you employer why that don't have a 100% universal coverage policy? Why not? Here you are demanding that certain things must be covered.
"People have the right to do it, but to have the government force people to provide it free, to me, is a bit loaded," Santorum said.
Amnio tests come with some risk, and cause a miscarriage in around one-half of one percent of the cases. They also can be used by parents to terminate less-than-perfect infants (e.g., those with Down Syndrome). So I think Santorum is concerned about free amnio testing being used to terminate otherwise healthy infants who have some kind of disability, in a kind of prenatal "search and destroy" operation.
Whether one agrees with Santorum, I think there is a great difference between his opposition to free amnio testing, and saying that "Santorum wants to kill my baby," or whatever is the title of this post.
This is a rhetorical device often used on Open Salon, in which the failure to support some kind of free service is spun as an attack on someone's rights. For example, if a conservative doesn't think that the government should hand out free cat food, some OS writer will write that "conservatives want to starve my cat." No free birth control is spun as "an attack on women's rights." And now, no free amnio testing is "Santorum would kill my daughter."
Brilliant and important piece. Not to mention a beautiful daughter.
So yes the Christians will line up.
And this whole issue is abut the one size fits all mandate. Everyone having to insure themselves for everything in order for it to be cheaper or everyone to insure themselves for everything. I don't need pre and post natal care so I don't want t pay for it in my policy. On the other hand even the mandate likely wont give me viagra or propecia should I want it.
This is not an issue of anyone wanting to kill your daughter. It is a funding issue. I object because I don't like one size fits all. RS objects because it is his religion. It really does not matter does it. You see this is what happens when we pass things like Obamacare. Without Obamacare this would not even be a topic of debate as it was not when your daughter was born 11 years ago.
That is the issue that people never want to look at the untended consequences of the perfect laws that are going to save everyone from every hardship. You cannot save all the people all the time. You can save most of the people most of the time. Laws and plans that promise the former are just lies.
Your story pulls on everyone's heart strings, but again it wound be no story if gov was not interfering with health insurance in the first place.
Do you really think RS wants to kill your baby. Havnt you figured out yet that politicians will say what they calculate will help their election. The calculation may well be wrong but believing anything they say to be what they think is just silly. RS could be all about abortion for all we know. Maybe he has a skeleton in the closet in to form of a you woman he got pregnant in high school. Writing about what politicians would or would not do basted on campaign statements assumes they are really going to do that.
Decisions about proper healthcare should be made between a patient and a doctor - NOT insurance companies, NOT employers, and NOT politicians. Good grief, people, are you serious?? You want your employer to decide - and you think it's okay that women have to pay out of pocket because their boss has a "moral objection" to a procedure?
I'm very happy for you, having found the strength and love to resolve a seemingly insoluble problem with your beautiful daughter's birth...
I think come October, when I'm due for my next Pap smear, pelvic exam and mammogram, I'm going to ask Rick Santorum to personally do them on live TV. In fact, maybe I can get all the candidates to help out. I think it would be a great way to overcome the myth that the Republican party doesn't care about women's health.
It's an important point. Thank you!
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As for the arguments that the religious have some special license to avoid or escape contributing financially to democratically determined public policies, this is an unjust plea for special treatment, not a defense of first amendment rights of moral conscience based on religious freedom.
If such an ability for individuals to assert their moral conscience were granted to each citizen, then I and many other Americans should have been able to withdraw my tax dollars from supporting the invasion of Iraq because it was morally repugnant to me, and even more so because the "decider" claimed God told him to do it. My religious freedom was mightily violated by having an unelected religious man awarded the presidency by the Supreme Court, and then have him use religious mumbo-jumbo to destroy cities and lives in the name of America, the nation I love. Such horror and shame had to be endured.
The Catholics and others will have to endure the reality that people don't share their faith, and that people have good reasons for having access to and using contraceptives. At least you have the total freedom to appeal to your lord for consolation over this trivial inconvenience you pretend is some kind of egregious assault on your moral principles. If a religious institution wishes to engage in a scientific medical enterprise, then it should be held to the standards of following best practices of the profession. Or else they should stay in their churches and monasteries where they can shelter themselves from reality and enjoy the actual limits of their first amendment rights.
There are those for whom it is morally unconscionable that some should receive social safety net transfers of wealth, while others find it deeply morally offensive that in this wealthy nation people should live in poverty or go without needed medical care or lose their home if struck by sudden illness.
What about Americans who are forced to endure, against their deepest religious beliefs, having the false claim that they trust in God printed on the currency? What about those who must accept the meaningless nonsense that our nation is "under God" in the pledge of allegiance?
We should not have to adjust secular laws to suit every religious taste. No religious person should be made to have an abortion, or made to use contraception. And they should have the freedom to worship and believe as they wish. But they should not have the freedom to unilaterally avoid having tax dollars or health care dollars indirectly support what they themselves would not choose. This unfortunate inconvenience of living in a democratic pluralistic society is something that every person with a conscience must endure, regardless of their religious belief or lack thereof.
I don't make medical decisions based on emotions. Logic tends to enter my mind.
Any irrational moralists' opinions are excluded from my life.
Ironic, isn't it, that anti-abortion fanatics in Virginia are pushing for a state law that would require women have a medically unnecessary and highly invasive ultra-sound against their will (and that of their doctors) thinking it will cause women to think twice about an abortion, but in your case these same fanatics would deny you a test you did want that saved your baby. They know no shame.
It's you who needs to get your facts straight. Here is Rick Santorum on this very topic, via Village Voice (Oh, I know, you can never trust the biased liberal media!)
"One of the mandates is they require free prenatal testing in every insurance policy in America," Santorum said of Barack Obama's health care policies. "Why? Because it saves money in health care. Why? Because free prenatal testing ends up in more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done, because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society...[It's] another hidden message as to what President Obama thinks of those who are less able."
"In the 60s, a drug called RhoGAM was approved by the FDA to prevent this disease, and it has since saved hundreds of thousands of lives. In almost every case when it is administered in time it is effective. But in my case, it wasn’t."
Sarah Fister Gale - I'm glad you got to keep that beautiful daughter.
Santorum is right- prenatal testing does increase abortions and decrease the number of handicapped children there are. Who wants a handicapped child- I mean really- they aren't perfect right, and they cost a lot more than regular children? It would be cheaper to diagnose diseases and kill those kids and make the abortion industry a lot of money while they're at it. Oh- are you mad at me for saying handicapped children aren't perfect? Well- you are the one saying that Santorum is wrong for saying that. So you are implying that we should just kill them, you know what- it'd be cheaper for us if we just went around killing everyone who is an illegal immigrant or who doesn't have health insurance, or let's kill off all the mentally ill who can't hold a job while we're at it. Hell- let's just kill everyone on medicaid cause they sure are costing us a lot. (I hope you know I'm being sarcastic)
I seriously doubt he meant we shouldn't have access to amnio's or prenatal health care- I'm sure he was pointing to the idea that pushing all the extras in prenatal healthcare does lead to more abortions and the death of children with disabilities. Sounds good if you make your money from the abortion industry, but not really very moral to encourage abortions which is what this seems to do. Whatev, I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice if all this testing wasn't free--- but please will you tell me with the freakin' huge deficit we have- where the HELL is this money coming from?
It is unlikely that a single gene determines sexual orientation. If it ever becomes possible to determine orientation in the womb, hopefully society will be sufficiently enlightened that the gay orientation will be no less desirable than being left handed.
I think a greater moral dilemma for you to consider would be what if we can determine genetically if a baby will be born with a conservative political outlook. The liberals will be able to abort conservative babies, but conservatives will not be able (apparently) to abort liberal babies. Perhaps after a few generations of that we would finally be able to progress beyond the reactionary dogmatic resentment that hampers modernization and harmonization of society today.
The money comes from private insurers. Total premium dollars will increase due to the individual mandate, which should encourage a large number of younger healthier people to contribute to the risk pool. Also there were $500 billion in future medicare cost reductions factored in. The ACA is actually deficit reducing legislation according to CBO projections, so you can rest assured it was designed in a fiscally responsible manner.
If you listen to critics, they'll call it budget busting (wrong) out of one side of their mouth, and then they'll criticize Obama for "cutting medicare benefits" (false) out the other side. It's odd since they are so anxious to cut entitlements, and then they make it out as bad that the ACA was balanced against cuts in future medicare growth.
One more thing. It's a conservative conceit that liberals want more abortions. This is totally absurd. What we want is for women to be in control of their bodies. We would prefer that no abortions occur. That's why we encourage any woman who is not ready to be a mother to use contraception. Then we simply accept that very annoying but unavoidable complication known as "reality", in which actual human females have actual natural biologically normal sexual desires that cause them to have sex and become pregnant (if they are careless about contraception or if the contraceptive fails). I think it is this feature of human life that conservatives would like to ignore or wish away.
Actually our biological nature, or perhaps God in your worldview, causes over 50% of fertilized embryos to abort naturally. I suppose you wish you could cuddle those fetuses, but you might find them less than humanly affectionate since they aren't fully developed life forms. But you might want to ask God why he kills so many of them himself. You may have to wait a long time for the answer though. Perhaps you should just try to accept our actual biological nature, and embrace it as it is, rather than disliking it as it is and idealizing it as you would like it to be.
I love people try to destroy people they don't agree with. Those are usually the same people who try to promote "diversity". Sure, as long as your diversity is the same as mine!
You are so predictable.
I was once communications director for a state Republican Party back in the 1980s and early 90s. I learned much of what I now know about political rhetoric and propaganda from Newt Gingrich when he was heading up GOPAC. And one of the cardinal rules when trying to make the toxic positions of right wing extremism mainstream is never, ever argue radical reactionary positions on their merits in public because you will lose every time.
Instead, says Gingrich, use liberalism's own values of tolerance and open-mindedness against it by scolding liberals whenever they reject out of hand right wing outrageousness -- not because these right wing views really are daffy -- but because liberals are just hypocrites who don't walk the walk of their own talk about open-mindedness and tolerance.
That is also the message the audience of Fox News gets all the time as well when they tell conservatives that liberals should be more tolerant of right wing intolerance. It's evident that this is where you get that message, as robotically repeat something I've read and heard a million times from wingnuts who can't defend their views, when you say: " I love (how) people try to destroy people they don't agree with. Those are usually the same people who try to promote "diversity". Sure, as long as your diversity is the same as mine!"
Bill O'Reilly used this very same get-out-of-jail-free card just the other day when he didn't try to defend Santorum's offensive and weird remarks on birth control but rather said Santorum should never say those things in public "because he will never get a fair shake from the biased liberal press." That's right Fox listeners, don't think Santorum is a nut, blame the liberal media for showing clips of Santorum being a nut. Nothing to see here, move along, move along.
Likewise, the Christian right bigot who says homosexuality is a crime against nature and a sin against God routinely accuses their critics of "attacking people of faith" as if the reaction from liberals to right wing bigotry is totally unprovoked and uncalled for. It is as if if anti-gay hatefulness should get a pass simply because the holly roller is "standing up for Christian-Judeo family values" that somehow forgets the part about being thy brothers keeper and loving they enemy.
Headline is wrong. The point, though, is right.
The comments? Well, I'm reminded of G.K. Chesterson's (the famous distributist Catholic) comment, which I paraphrase:
"The problem with liberals is that they keep making mistakes. The problem with conservatives is that they keep preventing them from being corrected."
What he has said is that he believes the federal government should not dictate to insurers that they cover all prenatal testing for all purposes. He never indicated that there is anything wrong with covering the kind of prenatal testing described in this article. He raises absolutely solid points about certain types of prenatal testing used not to determine treatment to save lives, but rather to determine characteristics of a child (e.g., disability, gender or eventually maybe even sexual preference) certain parents find so undesirable that they would use that information to decide to take the child's life rather than save it.
If you oppose Santorum on this you are in favor of forcing everyone to fund the killing of unborn girls by parents from some cultures because they prefer boy children. You are in favor of forcing us to pay for testing to determine a child should be disposed of because it is disabled. You are in favor of someday killing unborn babies because they are found to possess a gene that makes it more likely they are gay. Santorum is not even saying the government should take steps to ban such morally repugnant prenatal testing - only that the government not force the rest of us to encourage testing intended to support a choice of death rather than life with our tax dollars.
For this woman to advance an agenda of forcing us to participate in taking undesirable lives by lying that a candidate wants to prevent the saving of wanted lives is reprehensible in the extreme.
I have a similar story:
24 years ago I went into pre-term labor at just 28 weeks along, and I too, had an amniocentesis, which showed that my son's lungs were not developed. Had I delivered that night, my oldest son, who got married 2 weeks ago, would not have survived. Instead, the doctors tilted me toward my head to relieve any pressure on my cervix, and gave me two types of medication to prevent more contractions. I remained in the hospital for 4 weeks, receiving steroid shots to help his lungs develop. When the medicines stopped working, and the contractions started again, I had a 2nd amniocentesis which showed that while he was small, and 8 weeks early, his lungs were developed. My son weighed in at 4 lbs 11 ozs, and while he had to stay in the hospital to gain weight, he was breathing on his own with strong lungs.
Rick Santorum is, indeed, an idiot.
http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/news/2012/02/what-rick-santorum-actually-told-bob-schieffer-on-face-the-nation/
Hate him, like him, love him, whatever, it is a good idea to get the truth of what he said. And you are not getting it here. (I think the author may have just misunderstood the man. I hate to think that deliberate misinterpretation is going on out of hatred of the man. But whatever has happened here, that man - that devil - did not say what she is alleging he did and clarity about that is important.)
BTW, the criticism he did make about how some tests are used was made - irony of ironies - in a defense of nascent human life (babies) in the womb.
You tell a great story and, I'm sure, will have even better stories to tell us about your little girl as she grows into her teen years and beyond.
However, and there is always either a "however" or a "but" in any discussion. However, I don't recall ANY language spoken by Rick Santorum that would suggest anything beyond the First Amendment rights of the Catholic Church and organizations it supports. Nowhere that I can see did he ever say that religion should play any roll between companies and workers.
I agree with you that the Church has a great many warts hidden under those vestments, too many priests don't teach they love of Jesus, Savior of all Christians. In that respect, the Catholic Church can learn much from the Evangelical movement which does a lot more than focus on politics, as you well know.
(WARNING - both links may be NSFW)
While it was almost twelve years ago, I am sick to think that I could be reading this without my twins boys bouncing around upstairs getting ready for school.
While I am not a Rick Santorum supporter, I do feel like amnio is presented to the public just as he percieved the test. That ignorance lies in the medical community not getting your scenario to the light.