Do you think capitalism is doing a great job in the world? Just look around. Don't you see the disparity we have in the world. The gap between Rich and Poor has never been so big. There are millions of human being suffering hunger and all kind of misery. Socialist system definitely failed, but capitalism is not longer a solution either. I don't have a solution. I am not that smart. The novel price of economics came up with mathematical formulas to eliminate hunger from the world, but because the Rich are too greedy any formulal can be implemented.  They are not walling to share not even a little bit of their wealth. The middle class are too stupid to stop dreaming one day they also going to be rich, and the poor have nothing: no leader and not resources to defend themselves. What I am advocating is that, at least, you defend your class; Defending the class you think you might be in the future is just stupid dream.

Weather Che Guevara was right or wrong or weather he killed people is a matter of a genuine argument. I'm sure George Washington killed people too, and Winston Churchill, and Stalling, and Lenin, and Fidel Castro, but my point is that Ron Paul and the libertarians are not revolutionaries people willing to give their lives defending the poor as real Revolutionary people did. Ron Paul and the libertarians are just pure demagogues. They use the word “Revolution” in their propaganda. They also use the word “Liberties” and “Individual Rights” to make you think they are fighting for you. The truth is they are fighting for the Capitalist class of this country.  Ron Paul tells you he's advocating “free market”.  Ask Ron Paul to show where we can see a “free market” society.  There is not such thing, there never was, and there never will be a free market as long as the economic system we live in is Capitalism.  He tells you that under “free market” there is no need for government telling you what to do.  He tells you with not government you are free!.  They even compare the government to some sort of British domination over all of us.  All that is demagogy, my friend. The government is part of this society.  It work for us. The government enforces law we enacted to keep the peace in spite of our differences.  Our country is made of people from different social class and different ethnic back ground.  If we don't have rules, we kill each other. That's why we have a government to enforce the rules.  Ron Paul and the libertarians are not advocating eliminating this government to have a government of the people.  No, they are advocating eliminating this government to have  government with absolute power of the capitalist class and their corporations.  They want to start new rule: “you keep what you have and they keep what they have” but what do you have ? See, that's my point; That's not a revolution.

Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, George Washington, Samuel Adams, Boyer in Haiti, Simon Bolivar in South America, and Lenin in Russia, and Mao Tse Tung in China, and Martin Luther King in the USA, etc... those people really fought for a revolution in their countries and they risked their live for their cause. They fought for a fundamental change in the political structure of their countries.  You want to agree or not with their message that's another matter. Do you think Ron Paul and the libertarians want to make a Revolution in the USA? Do you think they are trying to abolish injustice, and inequality in this country? A Revolution is a fundamental change in the political system in a small period of time.  Do you think Ron Paul wants to end Capitalism? No, he doesn't.  He wants to fixed it for the benefits of the Rich. They defends the rich and their corporations. That's not a revolution.

The country of Cuba is extremely poor compared to United States, but every one there have access to medical services; something we don't have here. Every one has access to free education in Cuba and many countries around world, not just Cuba. Most civilize countries in the world provide social services for their citizens. In education, we are the 27^th in the world. Yeah, I know what Bill O'Rally is going to say: Why don't you move to Cuba or China.  I'm going no where Bully.  his is home. I paint my hause, and do the lawn, right?

You ask me: “name one of our gov't socialist giveaways to the poor that has a track record of lifting anyone out of poverty? First of all, I'm not advocating give away anything. I'm advocating to have a system in place that guarantee Basic Social Services for every one who might need it. It's over understanding that there are always people who abuse the System, and it can always be improve. Welfare for example its couch change compare to humongous amount of “give-aways” money big corporations are sucking from the system right now.  That's for nothing because big corporations keep on investing in India and China to save on cheap labor. Then later they want us to buy their products.  How are we going to buy anything if we have no jobs? There are rich land owners in this country who get lots of money in subsidiaries for they always claim they have bad seasons.  All they have to do is stop planting.  Because of that many times USA has to import rise and other goods that could be produce here. The money spent in welfare not only help those in need, but it also help the local economies.

Some people  blame the victims by thinking the reason why people are poor is because they made bad decisions in their lives. They are thinking that there was a moment in history where we all started at the same economic level, but then those who worked harder became rich, and those who made bad decisions and/or are lazy became the poor of today.  If you think that way it means you don't know sh** about the origin of poverty in your country.  I'm not going to tell you. You need to read it by your self instead of waiting for Fox News to tell you. What I am telling you is to stop thinking you are going to be high class one day, and start defending the class you belong to.  Every day you and I become poorer and the rich became richer.  Start demanding the rich to share their well a little bit with the rest of us. I am not advocating socialism for I think that failed too, I am advocating you identify with your social class.  Once we do that, let's see what happens.

Platano Verde

Some things I red online:

Billionaire Ted Turner owns just shy of three Rhode Islands, including the spectacular Vermejo Park Ranch straddling the border of New Mexico and Colorado, which at 590,823 acres, or 920 square miles, would cover a substantial portion of the 668,753-acre Ocean State. Turner's other U.S. holdings include ranchland in Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas, as well as a 30,000-acre hunting preserve in Florida he calls home, totaling 2 million acres

Archie (Red) Emmerson, a onetime sawmill operator who has amassed 1.9 million acres of timberland in California and Washington.

the Irving family now has interests in everything from tissue manufacturing to oil and gas. Forbes estimates the clan is worth at least $4 billion. Lately they've been embroiled in a fight with Maine lawmakers who want to prevent them from importing Canadian crews to cut their timber.

Brad Kelley, No. 3 on our list, also appears to be a recreational owner--if that can be said of anybody who's amassed 1.7 million acres in less than a decade

Another new addition to the list is media billionaire John Malone at No. 7, who The Land Report says has acquired 900,000 acres in Colorado, Wyoming and New Mexico.

Managed by his five children, Singleton Ranches owns 1.1 million acres in New Mexico and California and is one of the nation's top cattle and horse-breeding operations.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/14/ted-turner-john-malone-emmerson-business-billionaires-land_2.html