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OCTOBER 8, 2010 3:35PM

Let’s Talk: Obama and DADT

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Who opposes rescinding Don’t Ask Don’t Tell?

McCain drags out his “War Hero” card yet again to “defend” our troops. This is not the first time that McCain has used his military career in the service of the GOP. During the 2006 presidential election, I posted When Heroes Fail which outlined McCain’s shameful exercise of senatorial powers to make certain that the Vietnam War Missing In Action and Prisoners of War soldiers would be forever forgotten. 

“When [McCain] walked out of Vietnam with the 591 prisoners of war who were released after the war, he left behind 614 men who were held back as a bargaining chip for a requested 3.5 million dollars in post-war reparations by the Vietnamese.

This ransom was never paid. These men never came home.”

When families of MIA/POWs were able to get The Truth Bill passed which fined and punished those who would stonewall information about these men, McCain sponsored The McCain Bill which gutted The Truth Bill. He lied on the Senate floor that his bill had the support of the MIA/POW families.

When faced with satellite photographs which clearly showed an MIA’s name and secret code carved in the grass on a Vietnamese hillside, McCain’s committee called it an accident of “shadows and vegetation”. The outside photo expert working as a Pentagon contractor resigned, saying, “If grass can spell out people's names and a secret digit codes, then I have a newfound respect for grass”.

This is the formidable opposition that Progressives and the LGBT community face.

What kind of reaction would follow Obama signing an executive order to rescind DADT? 

Faux News Show would have a field day portraying Obama as the Black, Islamic, non-native-born pretender to the Presidency who is forcing our brave men and women in uniform to tolerate homosexuals within their ranks. Forget that many of those brave men and women who serve our nation are gay.

It is my contention that opposition to LGBT rights would be strengthened by any unilateral action on Obama’s part.

I have read that the LGBT community has abandoned Obama because he has not fulfilled promises made. Never mind that a vote for The Green Party or staying home on Election Day would serve to elect the powerful and entrenched racist homophobic party of McCain.

Is that what the LBGT community wants?

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I have been unable to post links for the Truth Bill and McCain's Bill; however, if you go to my linked post When Heroes Fail, you may link to these documents there.
Oh, stop it! Stop waving the threat of a crazy old man in our faces because it's not going to work and we will NOT be blamed for the Democrat's failures. You are not just mixing apples and oranges, but are trying to mix zombies and scapegoats.

As for the effect of Obama signing an Executive Order eliminating DADT, to KEEP HIS FREAK'IN PROMISE, it is MY contention that ACTIONABLE SUPPORT for LGBT rights would pull the support and MONEY of the LGBT community back into the Democratic party. Just think of that... a 10 - 15% bump in the polls and a 20 - 30% increase in campaign contributions (the LGBTQIA community has historically donated over twice as much money as the same number of heteros).

Now factor in the 75% of Americans who believe that gays have a right to serve in the military. How many of that 75% are Independents who would think Obama's elimination of DADT was finally doing what THEY wanted?

So, nice try to get us to buy into the guilt and shame that is the Democratic Parties', but sorry, no sale.
That is just fine, SBAmy. I have heard you explain this all before.

My question still stands however. When the repugnicans are voted back in, where will the LGBT community be then?

Fucked, I am thinking. Like the rest of us.
And how is that any different that the Democrats are treating us now? (with the immediate, sort term difference of kissing our asses for votes and money)
I'm voting for the Death to Humans party. DEATH TO HUMANS!!

**Wanders off into the thorn bushes**
The difference is that the Obama administration is moving forward on this issue, not backward as the repugnicans would do.
229 democrats voted for repeal in May while only 5 repugnicans voted for it. (politifact check figures)
And as far as doing nothing, he broke a ten year wait to enact important human rights laws:

" Obama signs hate crimes bill
Updated: Wednesday, October 28th, 2009 | By Catharine Richert

President Barack Obama has signed a bill to expand the federal hate crimes law.

The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, named after two men who were killed more than 10 years ago because of their sexual orientation, was included in a defense bill that Obama signed on Oct. 28, 2009.

"After more than a decade of opposition and delay, we've passed hate crimes legislation to help protect our citizens from violence based on what they look like, who they love, how they pray, or who they are," Obama said.

The law essentially expands the current statute to include any crime instigated by a person's gender, sexual orientation or disability.

The signing was hailed by gay rights groups.

"Today's signing of the first major piece of civil rights legislation to protect LGBT Americans represents a historic milestone in the inevitable march towards equality," said Human Rights Campaign president Joe Solmonese."

That act is not "nothing". Obama remains committed to repealing DADT and it is "in the works".
McCain makes me sick. I at one time at least had respect for a POW, but selling his soul to Bush and Devil has soiled him forever.
Scanner,
I was physically sick while I was building my When Heroes Fail post. There was lot more about his selling out the remaining POWs that was unbelievably evil.
McCain has no character, no ethics and he is leading the charge against repealing DADT.
We dodged a bullet when he lost his presidential bid.
Heidi,
First, thanks so much for your service.
And thank you for sharing your take on our gay men and women in the military. It is a lonely thing to pretend to be someone other than who you are. They call it a "mediated identity". Ought not to have to be the case.
Your letter proves the lie that openly gay soldiers would degrade the morale of our troops.
I had read of a woman who had been dismissed but was reinstated. Did not hear much afterward but I would think that would establish some kind of case law.
National Coming Out Day is almost here. In two days? Wouldn't it be grand if the soldiers all taught the civilians how to be uman beings by doing as you suggest?