Notes From Joblessville

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APRIL 29, 2009 7:23PM

Explain the Google Book Search Issue to Me, Please?

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I'm serious.  I've read eleventy-hundred articles about it, and I still don't get a) what Google is trying to do, b) why others don't want Google to do it, and c) what's an "orphan work"?

I'm plenty smart, but I just can't wrap my head around this thing.  I know there are a mazillion intelligent, articulate people on OS, and one of you might clear it up for me.  Please use small words, short sentences, not too many sentences in your pargraphs and MAYBE I'll be able to understand it.

 I thank you in advance for any assistance you might provide.

There's nothing worse than being smart enough to know you're just plain dumb!  Sheesh.

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I don't even know what you are talking about so I can't help. Sorry.
From CNET:

"As proposed, the settlement of the case filed by the Authors Guild and the American Association of Publishers in 2005, revolves around Google's ability to include content from books online, and in particular 'orphan' works that are still under copyright, but are out of print or written by authors who can't be found. "

"But some parties to the deal are objecting to Google's proposed settlement. "

There's a jumplink in that last sentence, but of curse, I don't know how to put it in. Here's the page:

[sidenote: I used to work with Judge Denny Chin. He's a reasonable, fair and balanced judge.]
I don't know either, so don't feel bad.
Emma and Delia, I appreciate the company in my lonesome no-nothing existence.

Connie, that helped some. I guess what this means is that Google wants to put all books online for us to have at? That's kind of cool and not so cool, I guess. Hey, super glad you're avatar is back.
Perhaps another in a long line of moves by pretty much everyone to make sure writers don't get paid?

I don't really know---but I figure that's a pretty good guess.. .
"This is the settlement administration website for the Google Book Search Copyright Class Action Settlement. The purpose of this website is to inform you of a proposed Settlement of a class action lawsuit brought by authors and publishers, claiming that Google has violated their copyrights and those of other Rightsholders of Books and Inserts (click for definitions), by scanning their Books, creating an electronic database and displaying short excerpts without the permission of the copyright holders. Google denies the claims. The lawsuit is entitled The Authors Guild, Inc., et al. v. Google Inc., Case No. 05 CV 8136 (S.D.N.Y.) The Court has preliminarily approved the Settlement. For further information, please review the Notice."

Basically Google wanted to scan every known book on the planet for their data base without asking the authors and copyright holders their permission.

I've known about this for several years and I did not agree with Google's "mission."

To me it's just another form of artistic rights being manhandled like apples at some cheap grocery store.
CG - Okay, I'm right there with you...I guess : - )

Well, there you go! Luis, with your help I think I finally understand this. Thanks.
No idea! I love your author tags for this article. Hehehe!
I thought you said, "gurgle". Sorry, I have no clue.
It's about the copyright and being paid for your work. You see, Google wants to copy every book ever made. So, they started doing that. And now, because they are so big and able to afford the lawsuits, they are now allowed, per a class action suit, to pay off a set amount of money to the writer and publishing company and then, they're done with it. So, no matter who objects, it won't bankrupt them, and they can do it, without much difficulty.

In part, their idea is noble, but in part, it's skeevy, as it doesn't acknowledge the writer and/or pay that writer. And then the work is out there, FREE, and who buys a book after it's on the Internet for free? So, the writer loses out on his/her money for his/her work forever after that. It's actually is very wrong. Think how Dave Cullen would feel, after all his backbreaking work and research, if Google printed his book without his permission, paid him a small fee and then that was it. His print sales would fall into the abyss.

Google needs to be broken up. They are too big.

Well, that's the main stuff. I'm probably getting a bit of it wrong.