Max Rivlin-Nadler

Max Rivlin-Nadler
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December 31
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Helping out at Open Salon. "Affectedly Hyphenated"

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MAY 21, 2012 11:23AM

Open Call: Blocks where no one has fun

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This weekend, Will Doig wrote about urban entertainment districts, or, as he dubbed them, "blocks where no one has fun." These carefully planned, corporate-financed, and completely artifical spaces are popping up in cities across the country, trying to take the authenticity of an urban arts and nightlife scene, and transform it into substantial profit for developers. The results are often disastrous. As a transportation planner observed, "You're getting the culture that one developer or city council member thinks the city needs, as opposed to the ground-up culture that comes from multiple players." 

Creating hospitable, inclusive, artistic environments for inhabitants (and prospective inhabitants) is a major priority for post-industrial cities across America. As Enrico Moretti wrote this weekend,  poorer cities need to start attracting young people urgently -- the city's survival depends on it.   

What has your experience been with "urban entertainment districts"? Has your city developed responsibly or catered only to developers? We're looking for photographs, stories, and testimonials about this new phenomenon in American cities.  

Be sure to tag your posts "no fun zones." We'll highlight the most relevant posts both on Open Salon and big Salon. Please note that by using the tag "no fun zones," you're giving us permission to cross-post your piece -- in part or in its entirety -- on Salon. 

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So if you're the new Ed I. Tor, do you have to have Kerry's baby, too?


P.S. Did the concept that it just kinda, sorta might have been nice if you HAD ACTUALLY BOTHERED TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF ever cross anybody's mind? Or are we just not important enough to bother with? (no need to answer. Your silience since May 14th and your Abysmal EP & cover selections speak VERY clearly. )
This is another fairly depressing topic. What happened to having fun? Instead, you want us to slam our town and possibly set ourselves up for a libel suit if the town council reads it and decides they don't like it.
We have some of those no-fun artificially created entertainment blocks in Kansas City, but everyone knows the real fun is on the blocks that have crack dealers and at least one old whore who can pop her dentures out for a... well, never mind.
Shoot. They aren't going to let me in the Senate office buildings.
If you ever want FUN places in D.C. I'm in.
These "no fun zones" sound to me very like the urban development equivalent to Monsanto's GMO corn. (Ghastly and fake and probably harmful.)
I live in a small town near a larger town which contains one of these very beasties. But I avoid it like the plague, and haven't been near it in over a year. So any reporting I might do wouldn't be current.
But I do find the subject matter necessary.
It could happen here just as easily as next city over......
BTW, welcome to OS!
(...and of course, she forgot to rate prior to posting her comment...)
R
I'm here for the free cheese!! Nothing says, FUN TIME IN BUMBLEFRUCK like free cheese and hookers, and oh yeah, crack!!!
Okay, I replied!!!

http://open.salon.com/blog/tinkerertink69/2012/05/21/open_call_no_fun_zones_how_to_have_fun_in_bumblefuck

A touristy guide to my area of fun!! NO FUN? No way!!!!!
We believe so, but nobody in the Ivory Tower is speaking.

We believe Kerry killed her in a satanic ritual gone horribly wrong!! Devoured her soul and then couldn't close the portal to Hell.

What? :D
*sniffs the air* the portal to Hell is definitely still open- that or Karen fed the dogs eggs again
It is really frustrating that we keep asking for an introduction or an explanation of some sort, but get nothing. I know I sent a PM to Emily asking about something a couple weeks ago and heard nothing back. You're not really starting out on the best foot here, if you're the new go-to person.
Hey everyone,

Sorry for the lack of explanation. I'm going to ask you to bear with us just a little longer as we sort out this post-Emily world, but I assure you, all will soon be revealed.

Thanks!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You betcha, Max!

Now, pardon me while I go bury a copy of your comment right next the ones in which Kerry keeps telling us everything will be fabulous and wonderful "real soon" if we're just patient.

DAMN, but this stuff makes the roses grow!!!
When I left OS it was happy and Emily was steering the ships gracefully. NOW what? you have to write some public events story to get an EP? This saddens me...
I can't resist... this post is rated and Max if you and Kerry have a sense of humor, you'll not only put this on the cover as an Editor's Pick, but you'll promote it as an article on Big Salon as well... the paths to hell are paved with good intentions - was it St. Augustine or Groucho Marx who said that?
good luck to you. (with both a sincerely, and a you're gonna need it added)
Emily ok? this seemed a more awkward transition than usual. I think most of this irritation you are getting thrown at you is part worry about someone we aren't supposed to really care about. (only bitch about)
:) I was going to say welcome to hell, but that is not really true. Nice to meet ya!
Welcome. Loved your comment about "all will be revealed." Shazam! I'm hoping it is December 21st, so we get the big news and the equator shifts at the same time. See how much trouble we are.
Boys and girls and others, please, settle down! Give the man a chance to breathe before you attack him. Maybe this OC was his idea, maybe it wasn't. It appears he may not be here long term anyway.

Regardless, he's handling a tough enough job as it is, let's be a little patient, k? My poor right brain can't take any more kvetching. Thank you. Resume your regular programming. xoxo
My two cents?
Too much current events slant on the cover is just plain dull -- keep some, add some humor posts more often, plus more fabulous personal or personal/photo essay that's unusual and forward thinking, not so much pillaged and ruined.
Add prompts that draw out excellent story.
Good luck ephemeral will o' the wisps.
Kerry, even your solid-looking hologram is beginning to fade.
My two cents?
Too much current events slant on the cover is just plain dull -- keep some, add some humor posts more often, plus more fabulous personal or personal/photo essay that's unusual and forward thinking, not so much pillaged and ruined.
Add prompts that draw out excellent story.
Good luck ephemeral will o' the wisps.
Kerry, even your solid-looking hologram is beginning to fade.
My two cents?
Too much current events slant on the cover is just plain dull -- keep some, add some humor posts more often, plus more fabulous personal or personal/photo essay that's unusual and forward thinking, not so much pillaged and ruined.
Add prompts that draw out excellent story.
Good luck ephemeral will o' the wisps.
Kerry, even your solid-looking hologram is beginning to fade.
My two cents?
Too much current events slant on the cover is just plain dull -- keep some, add some humor posts more often, plus more fabulous personal or personal/photo essay that's unusual and forward thinking, not so much pillaged and ruined.
Add prompts that draw out excellent story.
Good luck ephemeral will o' the wisps.
Kerry, even your solid-looking hologram is beginning to fade.
Oh, look! Sally wants another EP and cover!

You GO, girl! Don't worry, it will wipe off!!!

**hands Sally a Kleenex for her nose and winks**

:D

(just spoofing on ya, Sal! Kinda, sorta...)
@ Just Thinking:

That's 8 cents, hon. Might as well blow the whole dime now! :D
Remember, Max, you make your own fun.
Do you like Pirate wimmin? We like to party in urban entertainments districtesses.
Julie, wait, there's eggs to be eaten?

I'M THERE!! :D

Dear Max-Shaggy, why can't all be revealed now? We don't wanna wait, by the time you tell us, we'll have moved on to other topics. We have a low attention span.

Well, I do anyways. I believe Amy does too. Except when it comes to dimes!!!

Hello? do you like apple sauce?

Anyways, welcome to Hell ala Open.Salon.
You guys are hilarious!
Just thinking, that was more like a dime. However, you're always right.
I think the kids are getting out of hand and we should all be sent to our room. That will teach us.
I completely agree with Just Thinking... good points in duplicate.
I think this is GREAT subject matter to write on. I've often wondered why are communities are so damn boring. I was unaware of this new phenomena that you speak about, but that's because I'm tucked away in quiet middle America in a small town.

I will say this after writing locally about a somewhat similar issue, I've determined that the Board of Supervisors in many communities are the ones who need the most attention by the public, because they are the ones who make determinations as to Zoning and land use for often common green areas. Of course it takes will of the people, but myself, I would like to see more artistic use of communal space and less catering to industrial business for these otherwise pristine, immaculate empty green areas that dote around the landscape unused.
I pretty much ignore the editors and the Open Calls. Guess I'll continue to do so. Sorry, Max.
My contribution here:

http://open.salon.com/blog/gavrilo/2012/05/28/beale_street_no_fun_zone

It has a simple title, but it could also be called "Disneyland for the blues." Hope you enjoy!
Hi! My name is Hot Shoe! I dance 4 u?

I lub u!! I'd make u favorirte but seemingly it no work, sends me to page that says, USRE NOT FOUND!

sO I ratd u! But only once!!

Chex out my website @ http://www.yahoo.com! I max it just 4 u!!!

I like blocks 2!! Thank u!!!
No fun Blog Zones...just saying...http://open.salon.com/blog/timothy
What in the name of GOD and all that is good and holy has happened to Open Salon???
Perhaps a top 10 things I miss about OS list will receive an EP?
This was a wonderful place! To write, to read great stuff and to communicate which implies a two-way dialogue...
Are you a summer intern/relative of someone in a position of power? Can we talk to anyone anymore about the changes you are making to this site?
sad...simply sad...
and wrong
The changes you are making and have made are wrong...dead wrong. Dead is the operative word.
RIP Open Salon. Let me know where to send flowers...and where and when to bring coffeecake and a casserole.
geez
I think Persistent Muse speaks for many of us.
I have no idea if this will even be read. That in itself amazes me.
One of your contributors suggested you start charging a fee to post here.
If it got rid of the spam I think most of the community would be happy to pay.
It wouldn't hurt either if when you put up a post like this you occasionally looked back on it & responded.
An 'editor,' in most parts of the world, defines the responsibility of one whose job it is to communicate with writers.