FEBRUARY 14, 2012 9:03AM

No police state . . . No war criminals

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I was really relieved when Dr. Bramhall was shown the light, first in a comment, then in a blog post devoted to her obviously delusional reference to america as a police state.

 Needless to say, the fool on the hill offered no details, nor facts to back up his contentions.  He finds facts and details inconvenient.

 I slept well that night.

Now I find more reassurance in his latest contention:

 "Peter, . . . You really have to suck it up and start supporting Obama. He is NOT a war criminal…and quite frankly, neither is George W. Bush."

Frank Apisa

FEBRUARY 13, 2012 06:18 PM

"Has Obama committed war crimes?

 

When Obama came into office, he promptly increased the drone strikes in Pakistan in an effort to kill more Taliban that were hiding out in the tribal regions of Pakistan. However, it was already known during the Bush administration that the drone strikes had killed civilians[1], yet Obama decided to continue this policy, knowing that in doing so he would put more Pakistani civilians at risk. By doing this, he is violating Geneva Convention Article 3 Section 1A which states that “violence to life and person” are prohibited in reference to civilians and “Persons taking no active part in the hostilities.”

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22964 

 

"A tribunal in Malaysia, spearheaded by that nation’s former Prime Minister, yesterday found George Bush and Tony Blair guilty of “crimes against peace” and other war crimes for their 2003 aggressive attack on Iraq, as well as fabricating pretexts used to justify the attack. The seven-member Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal — which featured an American law professor as one of its chief prosecutors — has no formal enforcement power, but was modeled after a 1967 tribunal in Sweden and Denmark that found the U.S. guilty of a war of aggression in Vietnam, and, even more so, after the U.S.-led Nuremberg Tribunal held after World War II."

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/23/bush_and_blair_found_guilty_of_war_crimes_for_iraq_attack/ 

 

"Veterans for Peace (VFP), a progressive organization if ever there was one, took the courageous step of voting for the “impeachment of President Barack H. Obama for war crimes” at its annual national convention in Portland Oregon in August. The resolution, which called on Congress to immediately begin impeachment proceedings, passed with a majority vote. If you did not read of this, you are a victim of the gatekeepers on the “Left” and the usual censorship of the mainstream media."

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/09/13/vets-for-peace-calls-for-impeachment-of-obama-for-war-crimes/ 

 

"More accurately, Obama ordered the murder of one of his own citizens. Yes, al-Awlaki was accused of working with Al Qaida and assisting in plots to attack the U.S. But these allegations were never proven in a court of law. The Obama administration did not even try to capture al-Awlaki. The president was content to sign a secret memorandum and condemn one of his own citizens to a violent death.

At this very instant, Obama’s army of drones is cruising through the airspace of the Middle East, silently targeting men and women for death. We have no way of knowing how many other citizens of the U.S. have been secretly selected for death. We won’t know until the next time the president shows his smirking face on television to celebrate another murder."

http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=83754 

 

"By executive order on Aug. 4, President Barack Obama refused entry to the United States of war criminals and human-rights violators (Jurist.org, Aug. 4). He ignored, as he often does, the deeply documented factual evidence of war crimes committed by the Bush-Cheney administration – along with grim proof that the Obama administration also violates our anti-torture laws and the U.N. Convention Against Torture we signed. Take, for example, right now under Obama, “The CIA’s Secret Sites in Somalia.”

For those growing number of Americans who are concerned with what has been – and still is – done in our names, it’s important to know exactly the warning in this regard in the U.N. Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment that was signed by President Ronald Reagan in 1988 and ratified by our government in 1994:

“No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.

“An order from a superior officer or a public authority may not be invoked as a justification of torture.”

The United States also signed the Geneva Conventions, which mandates – and please pay attention to this, President Obama – each contracting party “shall be under the obligation to search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be committed, such grave breaches (of the Geneva Conventions), and shall bring such persons, regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.”

http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/334569/ 

 

"A group of rogue US soldiers that referred to themselves as a “kill team” allegedly killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan and then posed for photographs with their victims. The US Army has now apologized for the incident after the German magazine SPIEGEL published several images from the “kill team” in its new issue on March 21, 2011. The Army has issued a statement declaring that the actions depicted in the photos as ” . . . repugnant to us as human beings and contrary to the standards and values of the United States.” The photos were among several seized by Army investigators looking into the deaths of three unarmed Afghans last year.

Last year–on Obama’s watch.

This is definitely Obama’s Abu Ghraib or, simply, Obama Ghraib."

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/03/23/leftist-media-gives-obama-a-free-pass-for-war-crimes-bush-would-have-been-crucified-for/ 

 

 

"On the eighth anniversary of the day President George W. Bush ordered U.S. troops into Iraq in 2003, with the full support of the U.S. Congress and majority support from the U.N. Security Council, Barack Obama launched a Tomahawk missile assault on the sovereign nation of Libya with no majority support in the U.N. and without even consulting Congress.

 

Acting alone while Congress was away on recess, solely at the command of the United Nations and without constitutional authority, Barack Obama dropped over $70 million worth of Tomahawk missiles on Libya -- a dictatorial maneuver to force a regime change in a foreign land.

 

Under what authority did Obama green-light this dictatorial assault?  To be certain, Qadaffi is no prize, but what Obama just did is nevertheless unacceptable.  Acting all alone in a truly imperialistic fashion, Obama violated his oath of office, Articles I and II of the U.S. Constitution, and the War Powers Act -- all in one mindless, knee-jerk decision.

 

Article II, Section II of the U.S. Constitution identifies the U.S. president as the commander-in-chief and the civilian oversight of the U.S. military.  But the clause gives the U.S. president no authority to use military might to enforce his political will upon foreign nations.

 

Article I, Section VIII of the U.S. Constitution bestows the power to declare war solely on the U.S. Congress.  It requires both the commander-in-chief and Congress to commit U.S. troops to combat, without which any deployment of troops is wholly unconstitutional.

 

The 1973 War Powers Act was put in place to prevent a U.S. president from doing exactly what Barack Obama just did."

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/obama_attacks_libya_and_wheres.html

 

 

 

 

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If I were to cover this topic exhaustively. it would be like an encyclopedia, so let me simply say:

I really DO sleep better, since I learned to trust in the guy who was never wrong a day in his life.
It is perhaps typical, one president's war crime is another's "heroic defense of freedom"- At risk of sounding like Rush Limbaugh, our problem is not that we have a Left wing for Peace and a Right Wing for government "non Intervention", It's that we have one more or less conglomerated government/corporate "Ruling Elite" who entertain us with endless wrangling about the supposed "differences" between "Republicans" and "Democrats" when the reality is that both "parties" are just a "Tag-Team" horror show meant to frighten us all into "good behavior" ( sit down, shut up, do as we direct- or we will let the "terrorists" get you (aside: Hey George, get out that terrorist mask and frighten these folks, OK?, they look a little less than enthusiastic.)
Thanks for stopping by, Token. Please be careful with Your comments.
Soon You will be branded a "professional liberal" by the braying one, or maybe You'll be told to "get your head out of Your as*."

This sentence is especially on the button: "It's that we have one more or less conglomerated government/corporate "Ruling Elite" who entertain us with endless wrangling about the supposed "differences" between "Republicans" and "Democrats" when the reality is that both "parties" are just a "Tag-Team" horror show meant to frighten us all into "good behavior"

Thanks, again, for stopping by.
"Electoral abstentionism implies above all an absolute lack of confidence in the State. And this distrust, which is instinctive ... is for the anarchists the result of their historical experience with the State and its function. ... Furthermore, abstentionism has consequences which are much less superficial than the inert apathy ascribed to it. It strips the State of the constitutional fraud with which it presents itself to the gullible as the true representative of the whole nation, and in so doing, exposes its essential character as representative, procurer, and policeman of the ruling classes"

Luigi Galleani

Then there is always Emma G. - "If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal!"

Maybe we'll have adjecent cells?

r
Toritto, there is no way in the world I could have said it better.

There are the idiots who continue to say I'll vote for the lesser of two evils (and usually that person whom they vote for turns out worse than the alternative).

Then, there are the delusional morons who defend the indefensible and claim their vote is not a lesser of two evils.

Finally, there are the totally lost ones who claim that if Nader hadn't run in 2000, bush the lesser would not have gotten in, TOTALLY ignoring the FACT that the Florida race was fixed worse than a three card monte game months before the (S)election.

Then there re those, who as You point out, refuse to vote in an election which is a faux democracy and only the two major corporatist parties are allowed to compete.

Thanks for the pithy comment.
Frank didn’t read any of this he is busy making a homemade Valentines card for his hero Obama. You better look out Mark on the back of the card Frank as given him your coordinates in Okinawa. What's another 1.3 million when it comes to that very special Valentines day card? I told you Frank is operating on behalf of the New York Independence Party backed by the money of Michael Bloomberg so he probably has a couple of Tomahawks stashed in his basement. I see from Kemstones blog yesterday that many of the most intelligent people on OS are still going to vote for Obama that’s why a big brain serves no purpose unless you have the big balls to back it up. A sheep is a sheep I don’t care what his IQ is. That is why the Constitution is immune to the tampering of intellectuals. You cannot change the Constitution unless you have the balls to write a new one and to risk your own neck and the everything you ever had to make it the law. Every signer of that document did just that. The NY and DC pseudo intelligentsia can pose for the cameras all they want, the Hollywood degenerates can mutter colloquialisms at late night talk show hosts all night, but the next election will be decided by Billybob, probably with his faithful servant Sabu right at his side. Who is Billybob? Well he’s the guy peeing on that dead Pashtun tribesman. He has a collective IQ of about 70. He was taught to shoot a rifle by his daddy when he was 4 years old and to respect only one thing, strength. Right now he’s having his self a ball in that tar Afghanistan. Uncle Sam hasn’t found him a playmate this good since the Japanese were pacified. You see Mark, Billybob and the Pashtuns have been meant for each other since the days they were born. You may not see that Mark but Dubya always did. Which brings us back to Obama and his minions of cackling Capons. See Billybob does love one thing. He loves that tar Constitution and he has no idea how upset the folks back home are that a “communist, Muslim, Negro, whore” has allotted to himself the power to overrule it and detain and murder American citizens on a whim. Coming to a theater near you: ‘The revenge of Billybob.’Rednecks just love vengeance and righteous indignation, they feed on it. The dye has already been cast here for Civil War Mark and unless Ron Paul is elected there is not one thing in the world anybody can do to stop it. I don’t know whether to cry or quote David Crosby:

Don't you know, the darkest hour
Is always, always just before the dawn
And it appears to be a long, appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
Such a long, long, long, long time before the dawn
Thanks for dropping by Jack, and offering Your ALWAYS unique take on things.

As for the Valentine from fRANK, I don't see him coming here anytime soon.

He has his own "unique" sociopathic passive-aggressive personality disorder way of doing things.

After insulting a person, feigning innocence and unfair persecution, he'll proclaim that although he's really from NYC and invite You to share a beer with him and Nancy sometime.

fRANK is as preDICKtable as a broken clock which is right twice a day, except for the right twice a day part.

Thanks for stopping by, Jack.
Hey, RW, nice to see You around. I have a confession to make - none of the above really happened. This is a fictional piece.

fRANK is right, america is neither a police state, nor have any of the last two occupants of the oval office committed anything contrary to previous administrations.

Abu Ghraib never happened. Drones have yet to invented. A rendition is a performance of a musical composition, dramatic role, etc, the Geneva Conventions is a hall for trade exhibitions, and the Nuremberg Principles, a group that runs the schools in Germany.

Thanks for coming by, RW.
Thank You unknown rater.
M, I think I'll just focus on the one. POTUS must enforce all laws, not just those he finds convenient. He cannot pass on the prosecution of self-confessed torturers just because it's politically inconvenient. Doing so breaks both US and international law.
Thanks for stopping by, Peter, and congrats of the book. I'll find a way to scrape up some money and buy it.

Your premise about enforcing the law is obvious to all but the deluded one, and a buddy of his who claims to be a radical in support of obama.

Not sure what sense of the word "radical" this other guy is using.

Thanks for stopping by, Peter.
Thanks Mark. I'm proud to say I get more delusional all the time. Today I reposted part of an article I got published in Dissident Voice and Daily Censored, that was reposted a lot of other places about the covert US war on Syria. Turns out that everything Obama is telling us about Assad is a total fabrication - just like the line they fed us about Gaddafi and Libya. (PS my OS blog is syndicated from my author blog, so it may be an hour or more before it appears on OS).
Certainly much of what was done, and is being done, in Libya would be war crimes, that is, if international law weren't solidly under the influence of the most powerful countries, and chiefly the US. There's little hope that the international jurisdiction granted by the law to practically every higher court judge in every signatory country will be exercised effectively by anyone anytime soon against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Clinton or Obama. They just go merrily along, although the Bush team does stay closer to home on the off chance that their stupendously heinous crimes aren't at least given a look-see by a halfway ethical jurist. The way things are shaping up, looks like the autonomists might be right after all. You cannot rely on the law when the law is controlled by lawbreakers.

-R.
Dear Dr. Bramhall, I ALWAYS consider it an honor when You visit my blog. I don't consider You delusional. It is frank and the others, who insistently defend what is clearly indefensible.

They have this syndrome where the new guy, mr. hopey changey is what his words in 2008 led many to believe, including me.

If it were only Syria that he was deceiving us about, that would be bad enough, but this blood-thirsty monster has us embroiled in more wars, covert and overt, than at any time in my five decades involved in activism.

At the same time, he's in bed with corporatists that are bankrupting economically and morally this nation for decades to come.

Idiots like apisa are the delusional ones. He rails against concepts as logical as a third party as if it represented cholera.

The guy's brains could fit on a pinhead, yet he harangues and harasses those who are light hers ahead of him.

The guy is truly a sociopath in its classic definition.

It saddens me to hear that You are victimized by censorship, the same kinds of actions that fRANK defends mindlessly.

Whenever vermin like him attack those like You and Mr. Breschard, who dare speak the truth, my blog will document his lies.

Silence IS complicity.

Thanks so much for visiting.
SkinnyDave, thanks for stopping by.

Your comment is so pithy that it enhances this blog post immeasurably.

This single sentence is priceless: "You cannot rely on the law when the law is controlled by lawbreakers."

I should have added in my response to Dr. Bramhall that as we get closer to the election, things will get much worse, in my estimation. obama is determined to run as a gunslinger. He has nothing else to validly claim as an achievement.

There are those here who offer him acclaim for his healthcare initiative, one crafted in secret by big pharma and the insurance companies and for their benefit primarily. These disingenuous types will point to the relatively small number of citizens this "achievement" represents, when the reality is the focus should be on the 44 to 46 million WITHOUT health insurance.

The obamabots will bray and insult those few who really do see what's happening. It is essential that we maintain solidarity with each other.

Thanks again for Your contribution to the blog, SkinnyDave.
[r] mark, appreciated the visuals and will be back to read the text! libby
Thanks for stopping by, Libby, but You needn't read much further, as fRANK has, already, assured us all:

"Peter, . . . You really have to suck it up and start supporting Obama. He is NOT a war criminal…and quite frankly, neither is George W. Bush."

Frank Apisa
FEBRUARY 13, 2012 06:18 PM
Markinjapan, if Americans were exceptional then we would be able to see how we are being played as patsies for two political paradigms which don't exist in a neo-liberal financial system. Anyone who can make clear distinctions between what is Right and Left may be able to do so narrowly on cultural issues. And the fact the Ron Paul is getting support across the board regardless of his support of "state's rights" the most loaded phrase in the American lexicon proves that people rarely look beyond what they're told and that we are all capable of ignoring our moral center for a few concessions by either side. We are also able to make ourselves believe anything if we try hard enough, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Very well put together piece.
Desnee, as a first time commenter to my blog, I am pleased and honored to have You visit.

Your comments are cogent and pithy, and greatly enhance the quality of the blog post. I hope You will visit whenever You find something of interest here.
Thank you for the post. It seems that the things are getting worse. Now after Syria they are planning to go to Iran? Afghanistan they needed only for spying Iran? Osama Bin Laden is not needed any more and so they created the story of him to have been killed. America will now pull troops out of Afghanistan. Russians and Chinese are hopes to prevent us from still other wars.
Thank You for visiting, Hannu.

I appreciate Your comment, but I REALLY don't think we'll be leaving Afghanistan anytime soon. mr. hopey changey knows it sounds good to say so, as a canard to coax more votes, but in reality, at a minimum, special ops forces will still be there, and I don't see the prison at Bagram, which holds four times as many detainees than Guantanamo at its height, closing up operations any time soon.

As for China and Russia, why should we worry about them? The last two unequivocal victories of our much lauded military were over the vaunted powers of Grenada and Panama.

Thanks for stopping by, Hannu - I ALWAYS appreciate Your visits and viewpoints.
Your choice of pictures are great.
Thanks, Desneee -Your comment from someone I've come to respect so quickly is especially meaningful to me.

You, just, made my day, and I thank You for that.
Tuning in late; apologies for that!

A few (trivial I like to think/hope/suppose "problemas" slowing me down keeping up with posts. So for the moment, for a short one: THANK YOU, Mark, and comment-ers. Will try to keep up "more better" (*), soon.
Oops ... sorry about the lost "end parenthesis", O.K.? [Is OS ever going to be able to teach us how we can edit our own comments to correct things like that so as not to have to leave a foolish number of follow-ups? Or am I [almost surely, given how little I understand about computertech] posing a stupid (/impossible) request?]
Thanks for stopping by, Marte.
It's unfortunate that the American system is as morally corrupt as it is, and so big and out of control. The problem with America is that if Jesus Christ were POTUS, we'd still get the same old sausage meat coming out of DC. The whole system needs to be changed. That's why I support a constitutional convention.