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Lunchlady 2

Lunchlady 2
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I am now a widow, having laid my last kiss on my husbands brow after he died to say goodbye. Since then I have found an old note he wrote me apologizing for his meanness laying on my floor and two gold coins under my blankets, his way of saying he was sorry and goodbye. I have buried my ex husband, my baby son, my grown son, my mom and now my husband and I wish to bury no more, but life does not work that way. I have birthed 3 children and have 3 more wonderful children from my last marriage. I have 4 living children and a granddaughter I adore and I am in the process of finding me. I have no idea who I am but I have discovered I am loved and I never knew that before and it makes me smile...

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JULY 13, 2012 12:26PM

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I went to a new group tonight a group that circles the world called The Compassionate Friends; it is for parents, grandparents and siblings of children who have died. I hesitated only because I have buried two children and was not sure if I would scare them, knowing we are not safe having lost a child that we can lose again, but was accepted and I think I even may have contributed some to the meeting.

One lady was new and while I will respect their privacy and not share information I can say I saw the sorrow dripping off of her as she walked in the room. I knew it had not been a long time since she had buried her child. There was a mix of stillborn, babies, and young adults, cancer, car crashes and murder. As the meeting started these warriors of pain each introduced their child's name, birth date and what they call angel date around the circle, lighting candles in remembrance. I was the only one with two names to offer remembering each as I spoke them out loud, Todd Matthew and Joseph Christopher....

The one item we kept repeating was how people are so afraid to talk to us anymore, to bring up our children's names, to talk with us about the one thing in the world we must talk about for fear they will be forgotten. We talked about our culture in America that has no name for bereaved parents, no time to take off to heal, nobody who understands our pain except other parents who have lost children.

We talked about the guilt of still being alive, afraid to laugh, to joke, to live because somehow it just isn't fair to our children that we, their parents, grandparents, siblings still breathe, still have time to share life with others.

We talked about how others people’s problems seem so small to us now, like complaining about three soccer games this week, really, at least your child is still living is what we want to say but can’t, don’t, would never say those words out loud…but we think it.

It is almost like people are afraid what happened to us may somehow rub off on them, like we mentally see them sticking their fingers in their ears going lalalalala as not to hear us.

WE will not rub off on you, jinx you, we are mourning our children and need desperately to talk about them, to tell their story, to remember the last words they said to us, the last thing they did, the fun times that we want so badly to hold onto.

All we ask, parents, grandparents and siblings alike, is to be given the opportunity to speak freely about those we love who are no longer walking the earth, those who we hold tightly in our hearts to keep them alive within. We may cry but that is okay too, we miss them, we love them, but we also may smile remembering something you share with us that brings them back to life for a short time.

We won’t fall apart, we won’t hate you for bringing them up, we only need to remember and your help in speaking their names out loud.

Is that really too much to ask?

http://www.compassionatefriends.org/home.aspx

The Traveler shared a web site for children who have lost parents I would love to share a link to

www.kidskonnected.org.  

 

                                                                                               

Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal.

~From a headstone in Ireland

  

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Great post. My wife lost two babies. Before we knew each other. I know this loss will be with her always, at some level.

Great you went to the meeting. You have courage...
That Irish headstone says it all... hoping you continue to find your way.
Grief counseling and group therapy is helpful. t makes us aware that we are not alone. I speak of my dead child every day. Her name is in my by-line. She travels with me, but does not impede my progress. It is what she requested.
I'm glad you found this group, Lunchlady 2. Sending big(((((huggggssss))))) to you.
"" Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal'', so true. Thank you for writing about this, your writing here is a major helρ for all of us.
Glad you found them, Terri, and they you.
We listen better when we aren't talking. I've gone to some meetings and observed grief can be crippling for some who can't cope with losing loved ones. Your stoicism is admirable and I know one day you'll realize that by falling to pieces, you've let love into your life by letting others encourage you to cherish your sons' love as you have done here. We love you, dear.
Thank you all so much...I have included a link to the site and encourage anyone who is dealing with grief to go and take a look. I am amazed at how they made me feel part of a very special group. I wish they met more than once a month...
Belinda, I hope I don't come across like this "stoicism [ˈstəʊɪˌsɪzəm]
1. indifference to pleasure and pain"
I am strong on here, I write as if I am strong, but I spend many a night with my head buried in my pillows crying myself to sleep, many days driving around unable to see through my tears. I write here in hopes of helping others and in that way helping myself heal and in my son's names to remember them.
I am thinking of putting all this in book form and offering it out as a you are not alone guide to grief.
I hope I do not come across as callous and uncaring...
Speak freely and proudly, lovely lady. And, yes, please put your words in a book too if that's what you would like to do. You have so much to offer so many. You are a great communicator and you have so much to offer.

I'm glad you joined this group, Terri ... for both yourself and for them. Well done you.
yi yi yi! Sorry for repeating myself! It's the wee hours of the morning here and I think I'm still half asleep!!!
Love the headstone. Very thoughtful piece.
I'm so happy you found this group.
What Matt said. xo ~r
It's hard to know what to do sometimes when there's been such an enormous loss. People feel inadequate to the task of offering comfort or even just communicating in a way that's helpful and not intrusive. I'm glad you wrote this -- made me look at my own reactions. Difficult.
I know how hard it is to talk with someone who has lost a loved one. I too have said the wrong thing, trying to offer comfort and felt horrible for having done so. I write to try to help see from a different perspective I guess, it is the one thing I keep hearing from those who have lost, the one thing is no one will talk about them, they are afraid to hurt us, or unsure what to say. There is no right or wrong words, maybe just a shoulder sometimes, a hug...an acknowledgement that we hurt and that we are not alone.
This made me think so much. i have a close friend who lost a child and it was years ago. I know he thinks about him every day. His child was one year old.
This group seems like a better fit for you than the previous one. I hope you continue to find some benefit from attending. I can't imagine your loss...
Good for you, I'm glad you found this group...it will be a tremendous help, I know...
There is no greater comfort than to be among those who know of the pain and to be able to contribute to the group. I'm very happy you reached out and are reaching out.
I really hope this helps you, but I also hope your story helps others, who also need to talk, and listen.
I'm glad you have found these folk for mutual help. Your message is clear. I'm always ready to read and respond to your posts about your sons, but I hope you'll have people in the "real" world who are ready to do so.
I'm glad you found some people in similar circumstances. It frustrates me that the only thing we people on the other side of the screen can do is offer sympathy. But at least you've found some companion souls, and one person who just suffered that loss that needs a lot of help. Keep up with it, Lunchlady2, and help the others who hurt like you do; it will help all of you hurt a lot less.
I want to thank you all for your kind support and even though we don't talk face to face you have helped me become a woman I had forgotten existed inside me. Without you I would not have survived this time, if I were not here, had not already wrote my young son's story it would have still been buried inside and I would have given in to the temptation to just go.
That this story received an EP on the 8 month anniversary of my grown son's death means a lot to me. Maybe good will come from the horror, maybe I will write that story or become a social worker I don't know where the road leads I only know without you all I would have never stepped on the path. Thank you....
Your courage and sincerity continue to shine. Keep reminding people that death isn't contagious, it's a tragic life lesson. Everyone who gets that, who reaches out to those wrapped in grief has the opportunity to give such an important gift... to listen, ask questions, encourage memories, smiles and tears, offer support. Simple acts of kindness that mean more than most will ever know. Keep writing, Terri, whenever you can. And when you can't, remember we're still here for you.
Wonderful that you found this group and that the support helps. We can be a forlorn lot no doubt. That feeling each moment of everyday that some essential piece of one's soul has been torn away never to return. A few days ago I was busy running around and let my thoughts get away from me, suddenly I thought, "I haven't called Alec in a while I should do that when I get home." Like a shock it hit me that I will never call him again. Total destruction.
Such an important post. thank you!!!
You have taken a good step in joining this group and I'm sure you'll help others as well as it also helping you.

Congrats on the EP. Well deserved.
Congrats on the EP!
Your voice helps many people.
I'm glad you found this group and I know you will continue to heal because there is love in your life.
Sending you hugs.
Be well dear lady.
There is an equivalent organization for children who have lost their parents. It is called Kids Konnected and their website is kidskonnected.org.

Children don't have the coping skills of most adults and the loss of a parent is often a huge burden that stays with them forever.

The organization is based in California with about a dozen chapters around the US and growing. They have camps, counseling and meeting sessions for children from age 4 up.

They are on FB at http://www.facebook.com/kidskonnected.

My niece and nephew have been involved since 1994, when my brother died and have worked tirelessly with them.

Lew
I am so glad you found this group and shared it here. Those of us who have not had losses like you and others need to know this,so that we can be there for you. It helps to know that you want to keep his memory strong and share those memories with others. Thank you for sharing your love and insight here.
Good advice for us, Terri. I am encouraging my husband to talk more about his son, who died eight years ago. He still has trouble. He dreams of him a lot. I think it has to do somewhat with feelings of guilt, as the death was suicide. I'm not sure what to do except listen but I hesitate to bring it up. I feel for him but cannot possibly understand the pain.
Yes, yes, and yes. This is so true. With miscarriage it is the same way. I had assumed it was because no one else knew my children. In time I decided that was okay, it was a private mourning. But when I saw a friend whose son had died and I mentioned something I remembered about him, she told me how grateful she was that I had. Other people hadn't mentioned him in years. It was so sad and compounded her grief. It was as if his life had meant nothing to anyone else. Like so many things, until we walk through it, we don't understand. Groups like this, and post like yours will help others. Thank you, Terri. You have done some good here.
I'm glad you are going to the group T. Congrats on making the cover too. Surely a sign that the group is the right thing for you :-)
We are the trees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji8iYgLx8G0&feature=related
PM'd ya. Hope you enjoy this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyQ5ZSMENF0&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLF60F35E75FC33723
I wish I could address you each but would repeat thank you and such too much but for those who suffer still and Lea for your husband I do recommend this group. There was one girl there whose brother had committed suicide and she was helped talking about it in a safe place. If nothing else I recommend going to the web site where there is a wonderful webinar that walks you through grief and guilt. I believe it is the guilt that hurts the worst, the if only, the what ifs...If the one suffering is not ready to watch the video it may help you to watch it to understand what those in pain are feeling. Not preaching, I hope I don't sound like I am preaching, just trying to help. The group is non-denominational so no preaching from them either.
Survivor's guilt/remorse is normal. Unless you can't manage to cope, I think you're doing the best for yourself by joining a group where empathy and sharing stories will help alleviate some of the stress, producing a more peaceful environment for all to enjoy after leaving the support received from group therapy.
Terri...you KNOW I am smiling...right?
Love your strength right now...to do what is right.
Call me if you wanna talk.
Beautifully said. Much love to you. Much love to Todd Matthew and Joseph Christopher. Beautiful names, and such beautiful children in your photos.
Read and rated the first day but noticed the EP and came back to say congratulations - a subject well worth the promotion :). As others have mentioned reactions are probably a combination of not knowing just what to say and a fear of acknowledging that any one of us might be visited by such tragedy - and the loss of a child (in or out of the uterus) is peculiarly on it's own compared to other losses. It's not supposed to happen (happens every single day) and so we stretch ourselves all out of proportion in order to make it not so..

Rated for but it is so and looking the other way is fruitless.
It's so important to find people who understand. I'm glad you did.
Thank you all for your comments and support and especially your knowledge you share with all who may stop by and read this. If we help one person it may not help the pain but it feels like some good may come out of the sadness.
Thank you for sharing this post. When I lost a nephew to murder, one of the first things I noticed was that nobody talked about it. It must be our culture or something, but nobody said, "Tell me about him." I guess that people do not know what to say.

I am sorry for your loss. I don't know how you even get up in the morning and face the days, having lost two children. No one ever 'gets over' anything like that. Ever. This sounds like a great meeting, thank you and rated.
"All we ask, parents, grandparents and siblings alike, is to be given the opportunity to speak freely about those we love who are no longer walking the earth, those who we hold tightly in our hearts to keep them alive within. We may cry but that is okay too, we miss them, we love them, but we also may smile remembering something you share with us that brings them back to life for a short time.

We won’t fall apart, we won’t hate you for bringing them up, we only need to remember and your help in speaking their names out loud."

It's very little to ask. I'm glad that you wrote this and hope more people who are grieving feel free to keep asking. I'm glad you found the group a good fit for you. Love and comfort to you.
[r] thanks for this. I attended a grief counseling group for a series of Saturdays. It really helped me, especially the sharings of feelings from other survivors. survival guilt is a biggie. those stages of grief are elemental and real! best, libby
Thank you. I am one who didn't know what to say, thinking if I brought up a child's name that had passed, I would be met with dirty looks by others and "how could you" glances only making the parents sad and possibly angry. I can only compare it to my mother passing (really my grandmother who was like my mother). It's been several years since I lost her, but I like it when people remind me of how great she was and how much she loved me. Thank you for sharing. Wishing you much peace
The taboos in our culture do change. Death is somehow anti-american. I'm glad you've found that you can talk to our group, and to your readers. Writing about death helps all of us. Thank you.