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Lunchlady 2

Lunchlady 2
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I am now a widow, having laid my last kiss on my husbands brow after he died to say goodbye. Since then I have found an old note he wrote me apologizing for his meanness laying on my floor and two gold coins under my blankets, his way of saying he was sorry and goodbye. I have buried my ex husband, my baby son, my grown son, my mom and now my husband and I wish to bury no more, but life does not work that way. I have birthed 3 children and have 3 more wonderful children from my last marriage. I have 4 living children and a granddaughter I adore and I am in the process of finding me. I have no idea who I am but I have discovered I am loved and I never knew that before and it makes me smile...

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JUNE 18, 2012 12:33PM

Dear First Lady Michelle Obama

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 While I applaud you for your concern about obesity and I love that you have brought attention to America's schools and what is being done in the kitchens I worry about how you have brought it about.

The blame for obesity has long been put on the backs of those of us who work in the kitchens, those of us who try our best with the budget we are given to create healthy meals that children will eat.

 This has been coming for some time “we”, have been watching and writing our government, when needed, for the betterment of the schools, doing our very best to keep serving food  children will eat. Trying to change laws that were being considered with no one setting a foot in a school cafeteria or talking to anyone involved in every day planning. Laws that while they did listen to us they did not listen well enough. They have done what they wanted,and we now must make it work...yet again.

We listened when they changed the laws and added offer vs serve as an option meaning we could "offer" 5 different components for lunch and your child need only take three, thus stopping us from throwing away food that some like but not all, and not needing to put it on the plate if we knew they won't take it saved us money but also allowed us to offer more choices since we could make an amount of each product we were pretty sure your child would like.

But now in our governments wisdom they have declared we now must offer at least one cup of veggies a day and place at least ½ cup per day of a fruit or vegetable on a child’s plate, does not matter if it will be eaten, they assume that if we place it there long enough the student will give, I guess, and finally starving from the little bit of other food we will now be ALLOWED to serve will, in desperation, eat it. Leaving us to find foods all children will maybe eat or try or like so our budget stays in line and a child doesn't go hungry.

These are the minimums for fruit and vegetables allowable for each student by groups; the total is the amount over a week’s time we must offer but we may offer as much as we want within our weekly calorie limits.     

               K-5……….....6-8…….…...9-12 

Fruits-Cups

2 ½ (1/2 a day)         2 ½ (½ a day)   5 (1 a day)

Veggies cups     

3 ¾(¾ a day)        3 ¾(3/4 a day)          5(1 a day)

Of each of the following per week

Dark Green         ½         ½                  ½

Red/Orange        ¾        ¾                   1 ¼    

Beans/Peas        ½                1/2      1/2                            

Starchy                ½                   ½                ½

Other                    ½        1/2                 3/4                                         

Additional veggie to reach total amount needed served is 1 cup more a week except 9-12 which needs 1 ½ cups more Here is a link to what vegetables we may use where and how much each it takes to make a serving

http://www.choosemyplate.gov/food-groups/vegetables.html 

 The rest of the requirements per week we are allowed to serve, now with a max and a min… In ounces  

                     K-5                       6-8             9-12

Grains           8-9 (1)           8-10 (1)        10-12 (2)Meats/MA     8-10 (1)         9-10(1)         10-12 (2)Milk               1 cup              1 cup            1 cup

Milk must be 1 % or less for white and non fat for flavored.

This coming school year ½ of our grains must be whole and next school year 2013/2014 ALL our grains offered must be whole. Most of us are already at ½ served but all grains served whole will become more expensive and then we need to make them appealing to children always a daunting task when a good portion of them never receive whole grains at home.

   Food-Based Menu Planning Calorie Range— Lunch Meal   Grades K-5    Grades 6-8   Grades 9-12

                    550-650    600-700       750-850

The average daily amount for a 5-day school week must fall within the minimum and maximum levels. A school could offer age grade groups K-8 a single menu that falls within a range of 600-650 average calories per week to meet the requirement for each grade group. 

This is what they have come up with for our new sodium regulations although they may change them yet again after they study this more. Like they have changed our fat requirement, after we finally got our menus down to below 30g of fat a week they now don't care about total fat only saturated and trans fat with trans fat we are not allowed to serve at all.

   Target 1:July 1, 2014(SY 2014–2015) Lunch Sodium (mg) Grades K-5 Grades 6-8 Grades 9-12 ≤ 1,230 mg/sodium ≤ 1,360 mg/sodium ≤ 1,420 mg/sodium

 Target 2:July 1, 2017(SY 2017–2018) Lunch Sodium (mg) Grades K-5 Grades 6-8 Grades 9-12 ≤ 935 mg/sodium ≤ 1,035 mg/sodium ≤ 1,080 mg/sodium  

Target 3:July 1, 2017(SY 2017–2018) Lunch Sodium (mg) Grades K-5 Grades 6-8 Grades 9-12 ≤ 640 mg/sodium ≤ 710 mg/sodium ≤ 740 mg/sodium.

 We will no longer be able to offer desserts as 2 or less grain servings a day will make it almost impossible. No more filling whole wheat sandwiches as again 3 breads will never fit, no chicken patties w/ bun, no whole grain pizza. Not unless we serve thin breads and pizza which, with time we will do, because that is our job, but with 3 months warning before school starts we are all scrambling, digging for classes, webinars and any help we can find.

The industry is working hard to help, for them as well but we need smaller bread, we need help as really even scratch cooking will be hard to handle. One half cup of rice is a serving if you serve a small taco with it that gives them 2 grain servings which for a 6-8th grader will leave them hungry and I really don’t see them going to our dark green all you can eat salad bar to fill up the rest of the way.

All this for $2.10 K-5 and $2.35 for 6-8

You push for school gardens and I agree a wonderful idea but who will run it? Who will find the time, the money to keep it going? When will children be allowed out of the classroom to work in it?

While speaking about money these new regulations come with a 6 cent a child increase in reimbursement, 6 cents per child, but only if we fill out reams of paperwork that hardly makes it worth trying for.

You have this grand wonderful plan that most school food service workers agree with but you give us no time or money to make it happen in the right way.

“We” have not created America’s obesity epidemic, two parents working, PE leaving the schools, being afraid to let your children go outside to play, and those parents who keep their children so busy trying to relive their own youth through them, that is what has started
this epidemic.

Now “we” have been called on to help fix it all the while living with the blame and the remarks about us and our unknown food of the day.

We are scrambling to meet the new requirements, we WILL do this but it will not fix what is broken, it is only a bandage that will lose us customers and leave hungry children without food.

We will make sure they eat, working around what we can, to insure that no child goes hungry because that is what we do.

I wish you had come into a kitchen to see the wonderful work we are all ready doing, to see how dedicated we all are to the children. We were already changing our menu's in increments that a child would tolerate and now we are being forced to serve food that is not filling, to count every item, every day that is served, serving it whether it makes sense too a meal or not.

Gone are choices as to figure out the exact counting that is now required puts us back in a world where choices will be too much work and that to me is a step back.

 Sometimes I wonder if this isn't all being run by big food management companies so they can come in and take over all the schools kitchens, big money to be made running all the kitchens, with minimum wage earners and few hours, they would make a killing.

Or then again maybe I'm just paranoid next time it may be my job.

 I appreciate your time and your wonderful thoughts on childhood obesity but I respectfully request you come into the trenches with us and see for yourself how hard these new requirements are going to be and how detrimental they are to our children's health, especially those who go without food at home.

 Sincerely,

Lunch Lady                                      

             

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I know it is long but there was so much to cover. I hope I have explained it well.
Excellent and informative work, Lunch Lady.

I have seen in the news here in Greece what the First Lady tries and is doing with schools and childhood obesity.

"" especially those who go without food at home..."

As we say here in Greece,

"" when out of the dance,one can say and declare, but the issue is what he/she can do , while dancing''.

This is an extremely useful and insightful work to me.

Rated.
Olga, Thank you I was hoping it made sense to others then me...
Good god, lunch lady! I mean,i know you are a real lunchlady,
but i sort of forget from time to time.
You sure reminded me!
This nutrition talk is way over my head.
Alas, i am a poor eater and always have been.
I admit i was a bit porky in jr high, but that was due
to depression and anxiety.
Getting teased.
If there were 1000 regulations on my food back then?
I would find a way around them.

The fix for america's kids is not thru their stomachs.

But if the First Lady wants to think it is, then she can legislate
and suggest and encourage healthy food all she likes...

it aint gonna work.
Great post. So often laws and regulations come without the slightest idea how the "program" will be administered.
James, exactly which is why I wish she/ they would listen to us who do it for a living!
Ande, yes and if I have gotten that across then I have accomplished what I set out to do...thank you!
Wow. This sounds like science and math and economic classes combined rather than lunch. Well intentioned, I'm sure, but some of those regulation makers need to spend some time in lunch rooms.
jlsathre, I agree I sure wish they would listen to those of us who do it for a living...
Wow. Lunch Lady 2. Michelle Obama will surly Read You. You deserve to be a Guest at the White House Picnic. Pause.
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PAUSE.
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I got a PopUp:
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SOMETHING WENT WRONG.
It was one of those Salon Reads.
I wonder if Every Person gets it.
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I comment (Begin) and WOE `GIN.
Maybe it's a Fish in a Stink Tank.
I think the blanket gets lain-out.
The Picnic is on June 27. Soon.
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I was speaking with organic farmers.
They jam and eat greens and berries.
Elderberries are tough-skin. Sweet.
Serious.
O, Jam.
Ay Dry
Wine
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I an tooting my son & wife's horn.
Blueberry Hill Farm Hicks Sing.
There are Farm Photos. Pretty.
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We even saw me in a photo.
I see a Gold Marigold Lei.

Annabella was Tickled.
She gave it to Michelle.
Michelle kissed her too.
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If anyone should give Counsel?
I believe cooks like You should.
LunchLady 2 for de' Pasty Chef?
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You'd no get into a Fish Fight.
The word "Fish" perks up ears.
Boat People can starve at sea.
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What Went Wrong? editor?
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Maybe Kerry on the jetty.
He alone on the barge.
He may be slumped.

On barge he's surrounded.
Fish scale, guts, and dry gin,
and his white shirt stinky.
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He smells his slimy hands.
He'll pretend to fein nice.
He wet, and shake hands.

Slimy hands are no fun.
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Seriously,

I Thank You for insight.
You/She do what a can.
I Love Michelle's hands.

he shakes firm with a dap.
I tell Secret. I Love her.
She does a Service.
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People can be Civil.
Folk can Dialogue.
I vote for Good.
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I'm glad I came back here
Inform. Teach. Yummy
It's like Cod Fish Cake
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Art James, always a pleasure when you come by! I too respect The First Lady who has grand plans, I just wish she would listen to us and not those who surround her for their own good...
Welcome to tyranny by Government. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Good points, how much food will be thrown away because the kids will refuse to eat it and wait till they get home to eat what they want. Michelle and Barak have a Whitehouse chef and before that, as Michelle said in an interview, that she and Barak hired a personal chef to cook their dinners when they lived in Chicago. AND their two daughters do not attend public school, do they? The whole thing is ridiculous. Cultural Marxism. rated.
Deborah, It does bother me that here she is telling us what we do wrong, when she does not even cook for her kids or send them to the schools she is being led to ruin...just think no public schools will sure save a lot of money, more money for those on top. I tried hard to keep this neutral as I will be sending it to her and figure she will not listen if it is hateful. Yes while her idea to help save the children is good and she does seem to really care I just wish she would think as a mom and not as a powerful figure being led around by those who run the world.
It seems that those least fortunate are always blamed and/or left to clean up the damages wrought by the more well-to-do (i.e. the bank bail outs). Same with obesity: blame the poor for not being able to afford more nutritious foods. Ban sodas to punish the poor (as if banning super sized sodas will prevent obesity!) It makes me very angry. Thank you for writing this, LL.
I hope you sent this in. She may very well see it if you send it in and she is the most popular person in the world, so she does have some pull. You may well be in the White House getting a medal. (or tending the garden)
Erika, thank you for reading, the sad thing is no matter what we are mandated to serve, and what budget we are given we will still find a way to feed the children even sadly if we have to cheat to do so...
Scanner, yes I plan on sending it in but I placed it here first to see how it read. I will be perfectly content to stay at my little school with the children I love!
I watched Jamie Olivers series on lunchrooms and agree something had to be done to get rid of some of the things offered. Not saying your lunch room as I know you and you probably run it like a tight ship.

BUT there was so much work in preparation and kids did not like some of the choices so they tossed it. Yes, they will be hungry and fill up on junk on the way home from school.

Money, time and help is what you need.
HUGGGGGGGGGGG
Linda, exactly and I know if the government offered cooking classes to us most of us would gladly go even without being paid for it. There are 3 of us in my kitchen to feed 400 I am 8 hours as I have to fit paperwork in somewhere and my girls are each 5 hours a day...sigh...when am I supposed to be doing all this scratch cooking?
Well, I hope that you can do it. I think she means well, and is trying to address the problem. I don't know what the solutions are, but your heart is certainly in the right place and I admire your efforts.
Sheila, I really hope we/I can too. This change is truly daunting...
Wow, so interesting and informative to get the lunch lady's perspective on this. Like the first lady, I too feel strongly that we have to make significant changes. I also know that change is difficult and she's not the one in the kitchen trying to make it work. As a K-12 sub, I've seen what kids eat with my own eyes. More often than not it is pizza and french fries. Perhaps if they weren't on the menu every day (for secondary schools) they wouldn't be consumed so often.
Peasants dry:
for outdoor kitchen:
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cow dung, banana peels,
orange rinds, and cut into
Fuel bricks. Great Fuel.
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Maybe we'll return to that.
Stockpile under blue skies:

cords of cured kindling wood.
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But man must light for man
The fires no other can,
And find his own eye where
the strange crossroads lie.
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Hi bluestocking babe.
I always think of Saloon.
The night you sang blues.
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David Mc McCord
Bluestocking babe, basically we are doing our very best to take what a child will eat and make it healthier. Whole grain pizza dough, low fat/low sodium cheese, sweet potato fries. It took a lot of years to get on this road and we can not fix it by mandating it be fixed. Yes it is great for it to get the positive attention but I really wish they would have gone to a few kitchens. Really we just want to feed the children what they will eat as healthy as we can make it.
Good work, Terri. Thanks for setting record straight.
You explained this very well, Ll. I think what Mrs. Obama is trying to do is admirable and necessary. But oh, what a long way we have to go in some of our school districts. Cough, cough, District of Columbia! ~r
I have an idea. I think the government should test out it's new nutrition programs on the Congressional cafeterias FIRST, then see if they can figure out the formula AND get people to eat it.
Matt, thanks for reading!
Joan, I hear a lot about some of those schools that don't seem to be trying and while I imagine some don't care I wonder how many are understaffed and over budget and just can't do it anymore. These new regulations will kill those schools and then I am not sure what the children will do. I imagine go to Food service management companies who could really care even less than the staff might. I guess we really have no easy answer.
Kate, I must say you made me laugh and I believe that is the best comment that I could have ever read! I agree completely let them starve a while and see how fast the rules change!
Just, please, no lima beans.

Seriously, this reads like No Child Left Behind. Mandated by the Feds but left up to the states to fund and run. Ridiculous.
You have indeed explained well. I hope and pray that Mrs. Obama will read, understand and act on this information, with wisdom and compassion!
Isn't it strange that there weren't huge govt. regulations over school lunch when I was a kid in the 50's-60's and there were very few obese kids? I think it's more about the epidemic of large portions, stimulated by fast food restaurants and buffets and mimicked by families at home.
Still, I do value your contribution and Michelle Obama's concern.
Just phyllis, Exactly and sorry lima beans have to make a comeback disguised as something else...that should be fun :)
Eva T, I so hope you are right!
Jackie, I think you are absolutely right! Schools are easy scapegoats...can't be the parents fault.
This is too much! Kids won't eat half of the stuff you put on their plates, anyway!

You know, when I was a lass, the obesity problem was rare. And you should have seen the amount of fatty foods we kids were given for lunch to choose from (usually two meals to a menu).
How can it have become the school lunch programs' fault kids are now obese?
This makes hardly any sense whatever.
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Spoken like a true Lunch Lady! Woo hoo! Couldn't agree with you more! I used to help make amazing meals for my daughter's Jr. High School, however, she was in private school at that time, so we made spaghetti sauce from scratch, whole wheat pasta, amazing salads, 3-4 kinds of fruit, only low fat milk was offered and no sugary desserts ever. That was back in the early 2000's. And that was just one of the meals offered weekly. Not the norm. But it was all volunteer by moms and dads, without whom, there would be no homemade anything! There is a bit too much "celebrity" around all this 'Lady Obama' circulating of the ideal vegetable garden, her rounds on all the day time talk shows and the promoting of her book. It's all good on many levels but it also leaves a bad taste in the mouths of babes who have no access to a perfect garden or a stable, healthy diet. Good job on this!
This is too much! Kids won't eat half of the stuff you put on their plates, anyway!

You know, when I was a lass, the obesity problem was rare. And you should have seen the amount of fatty foods we kids were given for lunch to choose from (usually two meals to a menu).
How can it have become the school lunch programs' fault kids are now obese?
This makes hardly any sense whatever.
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Do I understand you well, LL2! You've written such an excellent and explanatory letter that it should be read by those who are in charge. It's one thing to talk about wiping out obesity and feeding every child, but completely something else to implement an affordable and practical program.

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Great job, LL2! It is oh so easy to sit at a desk somewhere in D.C. and pontificate about a problem, but seldom do the people on the front lines get consulted. I feel for you.

Lezlie
I like the invite to come into the trenches. God's honest truth,...that would open some eyes big time, wouldn't it???
Poor Woman, I agree not our fault, the parents feed their children and then we need to adjust to feed them what they are used to eating but in a healthy way. It is enough to make you knock your head against the wall.
Cathy, I was upset by this book and then heard she was donating all the money made to national forests. Is all just a front to we know they don't need the money, she writes a book, gets too tour..sigh...
Fusun, I really appreciate your saying it is well done. I needed to hear that before I sent it off and I trust your judgement completely, thank you!
Lezlie, You are so right, I would love to see them feed their children on what we receive per child in an extremely healthy way by these standards...
I hear ya, LL2. Being a district employee myself I hear the discussions frequently on the difficulty of meeting the nutritional requirements on the miniscule budgets and limited staffing. You've done a great job here of explaining it all.
Excellent post. The school can never replace the responsibility of the parents and the home.
Rated.
JD, I hope she takes some of us up on it!!
lschmoopie, Thank you I tried really hard to explain my thoughts sharing what I know in a way all could understand. If they would just see how important our children are and act accordingly...
Scylla, I wish our government would hear you!
Jesus. No wonder I always had a sack, a lunch of my own, from home. I was taught food from the German, starchy. But a colt I was, nonetheless, the thin, Irish bones. I totally disdained the entire - look - of the food the school served. I was clueless. But I digress before I begin. Did you -- send this to Mrs. Obama? If you did not, I sure will. I do think she is a woman of Fine Concern, but your point is succinct, and brutally real -- it 'ounces down' to weights and measures, not to mention ledgers and reportings, and the one meal of the day that the School gives can not, ever, make up for cultural, culinary, and traditional ingestions that are more in-'grained?' from -- Home. You Are What You Eat. I certainly didn't coin it. But - there it is. You rock. Send the letter. I'm serious. I bet you she answers. Heart.
@ Kate O'hehir -- LL -- please excuse me for usin' your space as a communiquè to another - but this girl's comment is the deadnuts. Public -- Servant? Serve THIS. Big Amen here. Run the country as it is mandated to be Run.
The Songbird, Yes I will be sending it tomorrow after adding my real name and address and the school where I work. I had to see what others thought, that it made sense to folks who weren't lunchladies. And yes I agree and have no problem Kate did have the perfect answer!!!
Needless to say, you bring up good points. It seems like no matter how good an idea is, there is a difference between the excellent idea and the implementation of it.
Bravo! It is being taken over LL. Obesity has been created by the big food companies. Michelle, is trying her best to do what she can given the restrictions. Giant Food companies have 'polluted the water' they serve . Wouldn't it be fab to run your kitchen like the White House runs theirs! OOPS...the haves and then the rest of us. Remember by changing the diet the government keeps them that hasn't fat and needy...just the thing needed to fill the ranks!
And may I add...yes there is a whole lotta crap in this new mandate...designed intentionally so. You gave us lots to digest here.
I can remember helping to peal potatoes and measure pasta and scour the lunch area. Then we would get the privilege of lunch and recess. thanks LL.
I've bagged my kids' lunches since kindergarten. It generally consists of nutritional foods, but I also let them enjoy to munch on snacks packed with essential vitamins/nutrients.

Fixing what's wrong with out school lunch program will require planning and this includes a menu with healthier choices being made available to students. Apple or apple sauce? The raw variety is healthier, but the latter costs less [per serving] and we all know lunch programs are subsidies our government controls.
http://eatthis.menshealth.com/home
I will add my thanks to those of everyone else. This is really comprehensive and informative. And depressing (but you already know that).

It boggles my mind that a child would go hungry rather than eat fruits or vegetables. But that's why it is obvious that this is a wide-ranging problem with a lot of shared responsibility. Overworked and underpaid lunchladies shouldn't be expected to solve this all by themselves.
It is always helpful to get a perspective from 'in the trenches'. You highlight the difficulty of putting government regulations into practice. Well-written and insightful. R
This is the crux of your problem, very well-stated and exactly what I was thinking:

"You have this grand wonderful plan that most school food service workers agree with but you give us no time or money to make it happen in the right way.

“We” have not created America’s obesity epidemic, two parents working, PE leaving the schools, being afraid to let your children go outside to play, and those parents who keep their children so busy trying to relive their own youth through them, that is what has started
this epidemic. "

It is not fair to the lunch ladies (and men) and it is not right for the children.
I Love Life, I wish they had listened, given it more thought...
tg within, I know I gave an awful lot of information but I did not even cover it all, the breakfast changes and oh hell more than can be covered here. I wish I did have access to my own personal chef and the money to pay him :)
Belinda T, we have been giving free fruit now for 6 years with board approval, it is no problem getting the kids to eat fruit, it is the veggies that will be hard. I have thought about applesauce but then would kids eat applesauce for 178 days straight? I will check out your link!
Jeanette, Me too but kids eat what they are offered at home, what they are used to so while I have "my" students used to a variety of fruits from kiwi to red pears the veggies are not a choice they get much at home unless it is canned green beans or corn. Then to be foreced to offer less breads just pushes it all over the edge.
Rita, thank you I am happy to read it was easy to understand!
KellyLark, if they gave us the money we could move mountains but we are last on the list where schools are at right now trying to survive...
I hope you sent this to her!!!
Lunchlady you could serve your kids fried lard and it would still be good for them because you would have infused it with love. Nevertheless thank you for this informative and thought provoking piece.
I sure hope you sent this to her. I once was a lunch lady, so I completely understand where this letter is coming from and I could feel your frustration as I once was frustrated over the guide lines. Nice to see that things have only gotten worse instead of better. It would be nice if our Govt. would come to the trenches and spend an entire week serving kids, cleaning up after them, then maybe they would understand how their "guesses" are NOT helping but hindering. Thank you for the reminder :) HUGS