Lonnie Lazar

Lonnie Lazar
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JANUARY 2, 2010 12:00PM

On Misogyny: Teach Your Children Well

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Kids at play

Misogyny, like so many things in this wonderful life, begins at home.  How else, one must wonder, does it become possible for a child -- boy or girl -- to bring with it into its adult development the cast of mind and the behavioral tools necessary for leading a life in which women are demeaned, in which women's thoughts and feelings are discounted and in which it becomes acceptable, even humorous, to ignore the rank injustice and inequality suffered by another -- based solely on her gender?

Given the perniciousness of misogyny in the world it becomes necessary for it to be actively  countered as a part of good parenting if it is ever to be overcome, for it's also true that misogyny can persist and go unchecked even among those who grow up in a family, as I did, where the fact of women's 2nd class citizenship was more a matter of assumed superiority of the male than it was active disparagement of  the female.

I grew up the oldest in a family with four children and, looking back, it's clear to me that, had I somehow not been blessed with a nose for injustice, I might have easily become the kind of person for whom misogyny is a feature and not an optioin.  And just to be clear, I'm talking here about misogyny not in the sense of hating women, or beating them, or refusing to educate or employ them, or of objectifying them for purposes of sexual gratification, but more in the sense of simply not allowing the possibility that a woman's thoughts, ideas and feelings and contributions could be as important, or as valuable or as meaningful as a man's.

In our house, mom was clearly second-in-command. "Just wait until your father gets home" was a common tactic in her disciplinary strategy. And when dad did get home the entire energetic field of the household shifted, for he was most definitely the sun around which all the lesser heavenly bodies revolved. My father was not a tryant, either. He was not a mean man. I never saw him hit my mother and he didn't beat us kids unless we deserved it. He was an old-school patriarch, a man I later came to call -- to his face, even -- a benevolent despot.

So the gender modeling I got as a child was "boys rule" -- and I suspect it's the same kind of modeling the vast majority of people in this world receive. It's the kind of modeling that prepares societal ground for the seeding of misogynistic behavior of all kinds, from the most benign to the most outrageous. And I don't know that I can explain how I overcame that modeling to grow into a man for whom every person has an equal opportunity to thrill or disappoint me based solely on the content of their character -- and not on the color of their skin or the configuration of their reproductive biology. But I did overcome it and I protested to my father when I sw him taking less of an interest in my sisters' hopes and dreams than he did in mine and my brother's. I protested, later, when I worked with him in his business and the only jobs he ever made available to women were clerical, overseen, naturally, by a male office manager.

My father's generation was lost, however, and I'm thankful, at least, his misogynistic tendencies did not manifest in abusive or violent behavior. Once I became aware of the dynamic and saw how misogyny colors so much of the meta-behavior of society, then, I knew that if I was ever to play a meaningful role in reversing its effects or in putting an end to misogyny altogether, I would have to model a new behavior and, when and if I had a family and children of my own, I would have to actively teach them to recognize misogny and to denounce it where they saw it among their peers.

Well, now I have a son who is almost 10 and the jury remains out on whether he will wave the "boys rule" flag in his adult life. But I can say this: my son's karma has been to grow up in a world where almost all the friends and siblings of his parents have girls. Whenever he's at a family gathering or an event where many of our circle's families gather, he is often the lone boy in a sea of girls. I believe many boys might find such circumstances unbearable and cause no end of "I don't wanna go" fights before such events. But my son seems OK with it all. I observe the way he plays with the girls -- it's different from the way he plays with his "gang" of buddies (all male) at school -- and I like what I see. He doesn't assume any kind of supriority and he doesn't put anyone down for "throwing like a girl" or use any of the language that would cue a misogynist-in-the-bud.

So perhaps there is hope. The solution for misogyny, like solutions for most any of the largest problems of human society, cannot come from the top down. It cannot be mandated by government and it cannot be enforced by any commission or committee. The solution for misogyny is necessarily a generational change. Like so many things in this wonderful life, the solution to misogyny begins at home.

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Lonnie, I had my students read Carol Gilligan's "In a Different Voice" last semester (it was published before they were born!) and it was very interesting. They kept protesting that gendered roles were very different now, but as the class continued discussing, it became clear through their anecdotes that the "boys rule" flag still flies. But the good news is that they DO have a different view on the world than we did when we were their age. Thank goodness for male role models like you.
thanks Lonbud...we are teachers, whether we know it or not. I know in our own case, that I think it's been important for my bride and I to model what a loving supportive relationship is. Like the concept and implementation of empathy, kids don't have the empathy vessel filled up unless it's modeled--the same for love, it has to be modeled. While the kids have often said "get a room" when I give my bride a hug in the kitchen and kiss her neck...I think they secretly like to see it, but would never say so.

Much love to you Lonnie, having met your son, I think he has a wonderful father because it shows in him. (Though I know it independently as well.)
I so agree with you about parenting... and as my son is 22 I can see that he is NOT a misogynist. That makes me eternally grateful.
Excellent post. Today's children are tomorow's world. What kind of a world we want depends on the values we model at home.
~R
Perfect! The solution cannot come from the top down...we must stop asking for permission from men...I see that so much...please let me be your equal...pretty please. Or the fight: I am your equal, dammit! Until we get past the sense of a male standard, we will continue on this way. xox
Excellent view. Having grown up in a family of all daughters I lived under this everyday: "What, no sons? No brothers?" and the pitying face directed at my parents.
Well said, Lonnie
Excellent post, man.
I raised my daughter independently by myself - poor kid never stood a chance. She breaks many "rules" including going to an engineering college that is 3-4 men for every woman. At a young age, she has made a perfect selection for her lifetime male companion and she is one determined young woman in career and life. I will say the one thing I did right was devote all my love and time to her when I wasn't working to support us - evenings and weekends were spent doing many fun things in Philly, our playground and place to learn about each other and the world. All that true and freely given love and care helped her believe she was appreciated, valued and as deserving as anyone else for who she was regardless of gender or any other label a society superimposes.

Lonnie - Great post with personal background and relation. I grew up in a very old world, oppressive, and sexist family environment, one that I survived but my mother though still technically living, did not. Thanks.
My boyfriend's son is starting to show signs of misogyny and he is only twelve. He had to be removed from classrooms with female teachers and today he called me stupid. I don't really have much of a place here to change him, either than forwarding this piece to his father.
Damn fine, Lonnie, judging from the childhood stories from many women here. We all got them over a certain age. Lessons taught by parents, teachers, siblings, ministers, and the all-powerful TV.
Another piece of the Lonbud puzzle, not surprising, affirming. The world could use more like you. I'm glad to bask in your wit and wisdom without ever thinking about gender issues (unless we consider the Ass and the Feet ;). That we can joke so openly means it's real.
Wonderful Lonnie. Thanks for this
I think the fruit of a generation raised among feminists is visible in our children and grandchildren, they're better than we or our parents were
Lonnie, I would mind 'throwing like a girl' if I could move a ball like Cat Osterman or Jennie Finch ;) ... wonderful post. Thank you!
Catherine, OS's own Sandra Stephens was once the most feared women's fast-pitch softball pitcher in the Cornbelt; I have a feeling she'd never mind being told she 'threw like a girl', either. I myself wouldn't mind being told I 'write like like a girl' if I was being mentioned in the same breath as her...

Everyone else, thanks for your comments and kind words. I never so much thought of myself as a feminist, but more as a humanist who happens to really love and appreciate women. Though, as Sally points out, those with especially beautiful feet have a kind of leg up, as it were, in my personal pantheon of creation's finest.
Excellent, Excellent Lonnie. Got here late, but better late than never. So thankful to you and Greg for really rounding out these posts. Well done!
We do try, as parents . . . good post, Lonnie.
Such a good post. Both parents have a vital role in shaping values and the attitudes/behavior that follow. voicegal's experiences in the classroom mirror mine. It is assumed that everything is different now, but as she said, the "boys rule" flag still flies. I've written about this before, but I see more and more young men who may still espouse patriarchal views, but they temper them with their own experiences of being raised by working women.
Goof post!
Sounds like you have done a good job with your son.
Couldn't agree with you more.
I think a lot of society's ills are from "learned behavior."
You're one of my favorite "humanists who happens to really love and appreciate women."
xoxoxo,
Superb post Lonnie. I just started an Open Call, Nonsexist Childrearing Project. This is exactly what I am looking for.

What discourages me is that I and my friends worked very hard at freeing our children from gender role stereotyping in the 70s and 80s. Now when I walk into a children's store like Bye Bye Baby, with its rigid toy and clothes stereotyping, I want to scream.

However, I am delighted that my four daughters's husbands show no trace of misogyny and share equally in childrearing and house maintenance.
Discouraging, there are fewer male nannies, day care and nursery school teachers, kindergarten and grade school teachers than there were when my girls were young. My brother who teaches third grade says that all male teachers are paranoid that they will be accused of being pedophiles. I am always shocked at the number of mothers who would not hire a male babysitter.

We had hoped to create a society with a better balance between work and family, so both mother and father had enough time to spend with their children. The 30 year work week was talked about as a real possibility. I don't see any men watching babies and toddlers in New York City playgrounds; I mostly see women from around the world.
Lonnie, we all have - to some degree and sometimes to great degress - differences in upbringing. I happened to have had a "Leave it to Beaver" family, where everything, really, was good. My parents were kind and meted out a gentle discipline. We didn't really need it because we wanted to please them. We had a healthy, balanced, upbringing. However, while my father expected a lot of my brothers, he never had high aspirations for me. His Old School thinking was that I should go to University, but beyond that, nothing but marrying a nice doctor and having his grandkids could be imagined for me. So, when I declared that I was going to Law School, his response that I was "too soft," toughened me. And, when I said I would hang out my own shingle, he told me it wouldn't work, I was disappointed, but steeled to support myself. And, when I gave everything up to move to DC to work in politics, he knew he had nothing more to say. Except that when I took a job cocktail waitressing because my job in the Senate paid nothing, he was ashamed. I wasn't. After landing a job doing investigations of the White House and Executive Branch, he finally seemed to be proud. But, he was the most proud, I believe, when I married my first husband (for love) who happened to be a very rich man. Why my father didn't have bigger hopes for me - knowing my talents? I don't know. Maybe it was the generation - old thinking - but if I had children - and I probably won't - I would seek to find a life of no limits for each and every one.
Well, there you go, luckygirl. Imagine if your father had had higher expectations of you; imagine if he'd have encouraged you to pursue your dreams and supported you against all the societal obstacles you fought on your own to claim your independence. Who knows the greatness and different creative thinking the world has been denied as a result of women not being raised to believe in their ideas, as a result of men being raised to believe the best they can offer a woman is wealth and comfort and security.

If the cycle of misogynistic thinking is ever to be broken it will not come from women becoming successful on their own (as you did) and it will not come from men being forced to accept and acknowledge the successes women have achieved, it will come from parents teaching their children -- boys and girls -- that they can grow up to be anything they want to be.