I posted this over on Catherine's blog, but thought I'd pull out a separate post, in case anyone had any questions:
Hello!
Emily mentioned that the WSJ article had rattled some Open folk, so I came over to take a look. Yikes!
Look, any media company today that's not really, really huge would be nuts not to consider merger or acquisition options right now. But there's no reason for the nightmare scenarios -- I can't imagine any potential owner or partner not valuing Open enormously. There's nothing else like it -- a blog network filled with exceedingly smart people who can write. I have no reason to think Open Salon is going anywhere.
As for issues with the site -- I know all about them, and we're doing all we can. I know Emily has been keeping you updated on spam issues -- and I'm really thrilled we've finally put the controls in the hands of our trusted and diligent members. Many a night have I sat at home knocking off spammers one by one as they start popping up on Open, "clogging the feed" as some of you put it. I know Emily (and Thomas) have done the same thing. It's great to have help. But if progress has slowed, it's because the Salon mothership has required more of our Tech department's help, as part of a reasonably big overhaul. Once that's finished, we're hoping we can follow that up with some bigger changes to Open that will help -- a lot -- in the coming months.
Yes, that's maddeningly vague, but I promise to report progress some time soon, when we have a firmer time line in place. We should know a lot more in the coming month.

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Or you will hear me screaming, where ever you are.
Thanks for this update dear.
{;>)
Thanks anyway mr Lauerman!
Thank you.
You wanna see "Yikes!"? You lose the best and most communicative editor you've ever had here and THEN you'll get to see "nightmare scenarios"!
Know what I mean, Jellybean????
That's because he used to smile as he called you a skank ho.
I will send you a note, through the Open Salon mail system, regarding the spam. I will have it to you before your 9 AM, if you are on the right hand coast.
I knew you hadn't forgotten me Kerry!
So what's all this about our blogs disappearing?
I'll be content to post here as long as the doors are open!
Thanks for the reassurance.
I shall buy this site and give Emily a raise or three hahaha
rated with "ya better not be lyin to us" hugs..:)
All credit to the Open volunteers. I'm glad we finally did that. Mishima alone has been responsible for thousands of flags through the years -- when I got an alert from him I'd always take action. He's indefatigable!
1_Irritated_Mother: "I miss Thomas."
I wish I could bottle some of his Canadian wry and ship it off to you. But he's tearing it up running the Arts section on Salon -- and he's got big things in store. . .
Safe_Bet's Amy: Soooooo.... about that raise for Emily?????
We can't afford to pay Emily what she's really worth, but trying our best. She's terrific.
trig palin: I knew you hadn't forgotten me Kerry!
I've tried, Trig. Lord knows I've tried.
Appreciate your calming down our masses...no, wait.
Thanks for the insight....so to speak. ;-)
Is that why Leepin Larry, Trig Palin and Nantehay have two eyes as well?
Hey Kerry.. do ya think you could have Joan post something? Or at least ask her to comment at my blog, every time I post?
Lezlie
so kerry, its great you guys have been insulated from the cruel world of making money for so long, but the axe can still fall. I dont really find much reassuring in your post, it seems at best, very optimistic and at worst, vapid. in fact I can add reasons to bonnies post
(a) doubt open salon is self-sustaining. the tech is expensive. manpower and computers are not cheap. probably only a relatively tiny dribble of revenue from google ads.
(b) it challenges the MSM.
(c) copyright infringement. ouch.
(d) maintenance headache.. as you mention, spam, troublesome users uploading stuff, etcetera.
so yeah, I certainly *hope* the wheels dont fall off. hope the site continues to have some major plucky "audacity" in the future. although thats a deja vu feeling too. wasnt the last US election all about Hope and Audacity? wink .. and as a blog title went, hows that Hope and Audacity workin out for you now?
i don't miss thomas. he never talked to us. [sniff]
kerry (and larry) and so much more fun - they even play pirate with us sometimes. @kerry: put that on the sheet!! would be a huge selling point for the M&A people!! pirates!! yar.
My politics are different than a lot of people here, but there are lots of cool people that I have come to like, and I sure, sure hope we find a way to keep this going,
People were scared, because it becomes a place to go, like the neighborhood pub, and they don't want to lose that.
A lot.
Read UT's G.G.
Glenn Greenwald always has inspirational thinkers (stinkers too?) I was just enjoying`
www.Salon.com //
totallybaze @ 8:27.
It's a easy 'hit' sigs.
Glenn Greenwald.
I am only sharing.
It's not fornicating.
Thank you just thank you no matter what.
Sincerely,
mhold
Just be darn sure to let people know that my feeble attempts to calm things and put people at ease, were NOT inspired by any connection to OS or Salon management.
Especially because the last words of the captain of the Titanic were, "nothing to worry about folks, it's just a bit of ice.........!"
Best Wishes,
Blittie
Here on Open Salon, we speak in an original voice. For all my criticism at times, I must, say, we are not copycats.
We do not talk like Jon Stewart nor Bill Maher.
We are struggling to be free. Sometimes we are funny, sometimes, we present the face of extreme poverty with nothing but an internet hookup.
Open Salon is worth saving. Even when people like me are like the old SNL Schiller's Reels. Just little old hits.
We are New Media. We are that. Trying to be born through expression. xox
Ask him. How did he bring over 35 years of that humour, pathos, tragedy, up to an including the Schiller's Reel about John Belushi's death before it happened, with such a subtle, keen, and loving hand. Television is fading, the net is burgeoning. I loved television, and as you can see, I am a part of the net. But, how did Lorne do it? How has he kept that together all these years? xox
Also, on OS, I have learned how to be personal in my writing without violating peoples' confidentiality. After all, everything we write goes out into cyberspace. I have also (re) learned the value of brevity. And, of course, I have gained tremendously from reading others' work on a daily basis.
On OS, I have avoided getting into nasty political arguments--more difficult to avoid on Facebook. Nasty political arguments are bad for my soul, though I am moderately active on the political scene.
I have also learned some lessons on OS about the importance of avoiding the "poor me" attitude, the "I am a victim" mode of writing and thinking.
As far as the comments I receive are concerned, I don't receive a large quantity, but the ones I do receive are invariably quality comments--except for the spam, of course, which has diminished lately. The internet can seem like a very unsafe place (and partly because of spam), but I do feel safe on OS. If it were to suddenly disappear, it would be a great loss--and not only for the OS community. Thanks to Kerry for creating this.
Next thing you're gonna tell me is that the Food Safety Act wasn't a maniacal power-grab by shadowy gub'mint forces who are out to throw Stellaa in jail for growing her own tomatoes.
Hmmmph.
**Boohoohoo** And after I defended you against those Chinese spammers who called you, well, I can't repeat what they called you, something about Imperial bald headed dog....wait, I did repeat what they called you!!
**Runs off stage in tears**
The last got scooped ups.
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I agree with What Safe-Bet's Amy said.
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Especially, what Bonnie Russel dare convey.
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What HarleyGirl ETC., said ` China Cat Food.
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I have Harley photos fom Digby N.C. Canada.
The helmets, bikes, and boots were often pink.
I lost a chord that hooks to commuter gadget.
My son says he might be able to fix the junks.
Loves and kisses,
Your soon to be new Overlord and God,
Bob the Biggest Arse you ever had as a boss.....
;D
also, davexprice@blogspot.com
(I like this one better)
Oh, I'm kidding, but....???
I guess you know now, if you didn't already, how much we all love this place.
Another brother?
Should We Start a Virtual Rally here in OS? Harangues people... please help me with a catchy one...
I´m here with my piece of lightgreen card and my marker...
Thank you in advance.
http://open.salon.com/blog/throughmyeyes/2010/11/29/os_gift_of_love_challenge_1
That being said:
1) If keeping OS the way it is now means I'd have to pay a reasonable yearly subscription fee, as one would with say, a Flickr pro account, I'm perfectly OK with that.
2) Stay the hell away from that Rupert Murdoch character. He is definitely bad news.
I.e., if you guys learned that OS was going to be taken-down by the new owners, due to prohibitive expenses, just let us know via an email or major article on the main page, alerting us to this fact.
Further, give us a reasonable period of time within which to save our essays and contact those we need to.
Of course, since we aren't paying for OS, you aren't legally required to grant us this request, but we are major readers of Salon and give it great advertising. The PR/marketing ramifications of not giving us reasonable notice would be disadvantageous to a corporate rebound.
FYI.
Narrator: But do you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick, that he thought up a lie and he thought it up quick.
Grinch: Why my sweet little tot...
Narrator: The fake Santie Claus lied...
Grinch: ...there's a light on this tree that won't light on one side. So I'm taking it home to my workshop, my dear. I'll fix it up there, then I'll bring it back here.
Narrator: And his fib fooled the child. Then he patted her head, he got her a drink and he sent her to bed. And when Cindy Lou Who was in bed with her cup, he crupt to the chimney and stuffed the tree up. Then he went up the chimney himself, the old liar, and the last thing he took was the log for their fire. On their walls he left nothing but hooks and some wire. And the one speck of food that he left in the house was a crumb that was even too small for a mouse."
I'm just not going to drink the kool-aid.
Salon.com cannot continue as a losing proposition for much longer. You have shareholders. They must be getting restless.
There's nothing in the formula that suggests that it is reasonable to expect sudden infusions of cash.
No, it doesn't cost all that much to host Open Salon, but in any merger or acquisition Open Salon is simply dead weight that some bean counter will want to jettison.
I don't expect Salon to fold up any time soon, but that's not the point. The question is why are you a for-profit venture in the first place? The expectations of future rewards in compensation for past efforts is simply another form of magical thinking....it is not going to happen.
The only thing that will save Salon and, thus, Open Salon, is controversy loud enough to attract the attention of the big media and, even then, this requires an advertising system that you don't have....so where do you expect fresh infusions of cash to come from?
Without a well integrated advertising carriage program, advertisers have no means of quickly jumping on the bandwagon to take advantage of ground swells of popularity.
Take Glenn Greenwald's poorly written but very important article about Joe Lieberman's dictatorial tendencies...and reflect upon the fact that we almost elected this moron Vice President of the United States.
You've missed the boat here. the Wikileaks controversy is brewing up to becoming a major free speech confrontation....but your reporter failed to mention the most important fact: the majority of the material that Lieberman is trying to suppress isn't classified at all. It's just regular diplomatic traffic that anyone could gain access to...if you knew it existed.
And that's the key to this whole matter. If we don't know that certain items of information exist, we can't seek it out. That's the other half of the big lie in operation. Not only must our adversaries constantly reiterate their blatant falsehoods, but they must also suppress truthful statements that contradict their falsehoods.
No one really knows what's in this batch of released documents...even those who have read them all...because they are being read out of order and out of context....but there are probably some real nuggets in mixture that contradict major policy statements by either the Bush administration or the Obama administration, or both....and that's why people like Lieberman want them suppressed.
They can't attempt to restrict access only to those documents that actually contradict public policy statements without calling attention to those documents and, therefore, their only possible course of action is to attempt to suppress them all.
The fact that people around the world are reading documents to which we suddenly don't have access because Amazon pulled the plug on wiki-leaks in response to a crooked politician's application of inappropriate pressure.
That's the story you missed and as long as you continue to miss the meat of the matter, you can't expect those angels to drop by bearing sacks of cash to bolster your local economy.
Now, if you wanted to do something really innovative, you might want to pick up those orphaned wiki-leaks feeds and host them here.
Sure, that will get you into some real hot water, but that's exactly where you should want to be.
I think this place- both OS and Salon at large- has a lot of latent potential.
Stellaa
To love is a stative verb and should not be expressed in the continuous/progressive tense. McDonalds, which I don't think you much admire, started the sloppiness with its slogan, "Loving it!" I didn't think you'd fall into line with the epitome of all that's evil in your little world.
Hugs as always.
Sorry for the digression, but whether OS stays, goes, explodes, or whatever doesn't exactly strike me as of historical importance.
This site has had me in its thrall since I joined in December 2008. It has been the vehicle for the development of myriad voices crossing all literary/life boundaries; I never thought, when I first posted, that I'd have the number of favourites (I still think of them as "friends) that I do.
The success of this site is due in no small measure to you, Emily and the others at Salon Media. I hope, for all our sakes, that a way is found to keep both Big and Little Salon running.
This place is unique on the 'Net, so far as I know.
I found out about Open Salon through a fellow activist friend by the name of Phil Ferrugio who has a blog here.
I'm only sorry that I do not seem to have the time to really get to know more of the folks here.
However, I plan on making an effort in that direction starting now.
Salon really is a big, corporate, for profit, capitalist, operation that will do what it takes to make a profit and put money into the pockets of those involved.
And I thought everybody here hated big business. Maybe we learned something.
It's very hard work maintaining a site and community like OS.
I do not like facebook. but for love of OS I was willing to endure that ridiculous site just to stay in touch with the heart of this place.
do not let them take us down for if they do, they will be creating yet another sad empty corporate hole in the universe.
Merry Christmas Kerry!
A month has just about gone. The promise is about to be kept? Any further update?
and so I followed ole' jonmagee.
Heavin's knows who fornicates?
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Well.
Let's go to the Salon Beauty Parlor.
We cam milk cows and shear sheep.
'll visit the friendly mortician Parlor.
If we were rich sheiks we'd fly Coops.
WE's stop in NYC for bagel with jam.
Poppy seed with cream cheese. Yea!
WE'll view Bronko, NSA, NASCAR!
LaGuardia is Open Saloon @ stool!
giggles.
Pop a few No-Doze. Talk poodles.
No pee @ bar. No make big puddle.
Stellaa @ Halloween get big EP. no.
I hope She no slip on ice cream cone.
Kerry can rub Folks sore sacral cranial.
Front Lobes in skull need gentle massage.
If agreeable? I'll barter arugula for touches.
My brain get weary as a rabid chihuahua huh.
Behave.
okay
I do
pro
wrestle
No NASCA
view soccer
but love poke
no kick behind
if @ can spams
happy barroom
if @ happy hour
no spat or argue
yea share arugula
It is imanginable that a merger could be a good thing, especially if it created a better space. One where agents could meet or be inclined to have new writers get paid for thier brain stroms and carefully construed stories. I am usually entertained by the many talented individuals who write anything from the newest fad, to stories of families with certain issues, problems or just happy stuff to report. Thanks for sharing.
must be about that many posts there now...