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Walter Blevins

Walter Blevins
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Vista, California, USA
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I'm a 60 year old guy who lives in Vista California with my wife. I spent the 30 years before moving to Cali in Iowa, Wisconsin and North Dakota. And I have 2 grown children, a son and a daughter who live in Virginia and Iowa and a 22 year old step-daughter lives with us here in Vista. I'm a proud grandpa with 2 grandaughters living in Virginia. I like to write about a whole variety of things from my kids to cooking to politics to the car industry to my status as a "Cheap Bastid" and "Old Fart" and just random thoughts. And I really love writing about cooking really good, homecooked comfort food cheap. That's why they call me the Cheap Bastid. By the way--all the stuff I write is my stuff and you can't use it without my official OkeyDokey

JUNE 21, 2012 2:50PM

Jesse Ventura on “DemoCRIPS” and “ReBLOODicans”

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You’ve just got to love it when the former governor of a major Midwestern state publishes a new book with the title of “DemoCRIPS and “ReBLOODicans: No More Gangs in Government”.

Ventura is, of course, the former Governor of Minnesota who won election there as an independent with a populist appeal to voters all sides of the political spectrum.  He was well-known in Minnesota as one of the stars of the, then, Midwest based “All-Star Wrestling” grappling under the nom-de-guerre of Jesse “The Body” Ventura.  He was a mean guy—a bad guy in the “squared circle” but he was definitely well known.

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And a lot of his political musings are more than a little “off the wall”.  But… There’s always a but isn’t there?  But, he cuts through the clutter kind of like the bully in the middle of the ring grabbing the microphone to incite the crowd and get it roaring.

Ventura’s new book and his media appearances promoting his new book are assured to get the crowds roaring—and maybe even thinking just a bit.

Ventura likens the political parties to street gangs—calling them “thugs in Brooks Brothers suits”.  He invokes admonitions by Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and George Washington about the “evils” of political parties.  And he suggests that regardless of political party, by the time a candidate is elected he or she is “bought and paid for” by lobbyists and special interests.

One of the more amusing things in his live interview was a comment where he said that he only raised and spent $300,000 to get elected governor of Minnesota and was the only candidate in modern times who actually earned more in salary in his office than was spent in the election campaign.  An interesting observation.

But, I’ve got to give Ventura some props.  It seems to me that his point is that the aims of the 2 major political parties is the gaining, keeping and exerting of power for its own sake.  Little, if any, governance goes on as the “out party” tries to become the “in party” and obstructs any effort at governance or compromise.  And that's the basis for his comparison to street gangs where violence begets violence for its own sake.

While I may be putting words into Ventura’s mouth here, that’s my understanding of his message and I have a hard time disagreeing with it.

In an election year that has until now featured more and more of the same old drivel and rhetoric, Ventura’s interviews and comments and his new book come as a bit of “political fresh air” making you smile at his audacity and think about his message.

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A democratic people gets the professional wrestlers it deserves.
But you've just got to love the imagry he creates. It's not going to change anything but it's making it more interesting.
I saw the interview via the Internet(s) and thought it far surpassed most of the political cr*p on "mainstream" TV.


-R-
mark--I have to admit that I agree with you. And yet I'm afraid that I'm being somewhat "politically incorrect" by even suggesting that Ventura has a point.
" he cuts through the clutter kind of like the bully in the middle of the ring grabbing the microphone to incite the crowd and get it roaring"

I too find his outlook fresh, and dammet, real. Always have the liked the guy (since he stepped out of the ring).

Off to watch the vid. May have to get the book Walter..
(I would nominate this for EP if I had a voice)
tr ig--thanks. I have to confess that I found it somewhat refreshing too.
Hilarious. So freaking true. Thugs in Brooks Brother suits. Sanctioned bribery. Like the crips and bloods, except far far worse. Gotta love his clever title too... got my attention as your title.
Walter, it is as difficult to me to admit, as You, that I NEVER thought I would see the day when a former pro-wrestler would make more sense than are elected representatives, but such is life in our land at this unprecedented time in history.
He can blow some air alright, but I have one question for him. When is it not election time? Politicians start running for office before they make their acceptance speech. Senators have to make a couple thousand dollars a day, everyday, to run again. Congressmen, depending on the district, maybe half that. There has to be term limits and no lifetime politicians. I think the president should have one 6-year term. That would give him two years to learn the office, and four years to get something done and not have to take his fourth year and run for office. I really think that the two party system is dead and capitalism ain't far behind. Either way, if something does not change, we are going to fail as a country. It may well be too late already!
Like Jesse.

Interesting proposal by Scanner. Makes sense.
Just goes to show that you can get pearls of wisdom from truly unlikely sources. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
Saw some of his interview on the tube the other day. The irony to me is that a cartoon character is makng more sense than the people he's lampooning.
"make more sense than are elected representatives" should be "make more sense than our elected representatives
Mark--well, maybe a whole bunch of people will listen to what he's saying and think about it. I'm sure that the "mainstream" politicos will NOT be doing that, but maybe enough of the rest of us will.

ScanMan--I agree, some sort of change is needed. Maybe, just maybe, we can get lucky and get some sort of new challenge through to the Supreme Court on the issues presented by "Citizens United" which to me is one of the most dangerous precedents I've ever seen. And maybe, we'll eventually evolve into a "multi-party" system--where coalition building within the Congress is critical. It used to be that we could achieve "bi-partisanship" in the quest for governance. No longer. It's all about the "bully pulpit" and the exercise of vindictive power.

Joisey--thanks and the ScanMan makes sense most of the time. Don't let that "Jeff Bridges visage" fool you!

JustPhyllis--yeah and he was a pretty good governor in Minnesota too. Surprised the hell out of a lot of people.

ChickenMaan--yep, sometimes those "cartoon men" jump out and surprise you with some sensical points of view.
I sure hope so, Walter, and I"m VERY grateful You posted this, as I suspect few, other than You and I saw it.
He was the worst governor Minnesota ever had, and they started regretting it almost immediately.

First was his wife. She announced the "First Lady" of Minnesota position did not come with a salary. She said she would not do it if she wasn't paid, she had horses to take care of that earned her income.

Then he started doing cameos every where. Several Minnesota Senators pointed out it is not kosher for governors to do that WHILE they are in office.

His response, "What I do on the weekends is my business."

Yeah, what a guy...
Kate, with all due respect, my comments are not meant to excuse the guy's character, but only to comment on what he said in the video.
Kate--thanks for your comment and point of view. No, he wasn't a very good governor--but I had to suffer through Arnold Schwartzeneger here in California. At least MN has a good one right now in Mark Dayton while my adopted home state of Iowa has a "retread" in Terry Branstad who is no better now than he was in the 90's!
Ventura may not have been a good governor, but he's definitely "interesting" with his conspiracy theories, etc. And I do think there is some merit in what he's trying to communicate with this new book.
Mark: we just happened to comment at the same time... I wasn't referring to your comment.

Gotta disagree about Mark Dayton, he ran and ran and ran until he finally got elected, but he is still a 1%er. (But a damn sight better than JV)
Kate--I hear you. I used worry about him as a 1% way back before we knew what that was in the 1980's when I was working in economic development in Brainerd and Dayton was the Commissioner of the Economic Development Department. I was a peon, but I had his direct line which he answered. I always appreciated that.
How does someone in Bejing get so familiar with the upper midwest? Or is the "UND" in your bio the Univ. of North Dakota and not Notre Dame as I have assumed.
No problem, Kate - I just didn't want You to feel that I was dissin' You.
Let's not for get their "posse", either.

There are few thing more disgusting that a fRANKa drive by with him yelling, "You left wing progressive mo'fos best be rejoining the Democrats or we'll be back!"

I also disagree with how terrible of a Govenor Jesse Ventura was. He clowned it a lot, but he sure as hell wasn't the absolute disasters that they have in Arizona, Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, etc. (Plus if Kate doesn't like him that's a big gold star for him in my book. ;) )
SafeBet--Thanks. Irrespective of one's opinion of Ventura's performance as governor of Minnesota, this is some interesting stuff. We can probably agree that he was much more of a "maverick" than the lady from Alaska.
Fascinating!
I'd always thought of this guy as being a bit of a celebrity sonofagun, but he could well be onto something here!
R
Independent candidates are typically loose cannons who peel away votes from Republicans or Democrats: Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party resulted in the election of Woodrow Wilson, Ross Perot cost George HW Bush a second term and we got Clinton, and Al Gore lost to George Bush in 2000 because Ralph Nader peeled off 97,421 votes in Florida where Gore lost by 537 votes... even though I vote Green, I have to agree with Con Chapman.
PoorWoman--well, Ventura is like a lot of professional "rasslers"...he knows that he's in the "entertainment" business rather than being a "professional athlete". He knows how to come "over the top" although that might be less "schtick" and more the real person. But he's got an interesting point of view, doesn't he?
JMac--point well taken, my friend. My interest in what Ventura is saying right now is his indictment of the 2 main parties for their intransigence and for their quest for money by which they can spend their way to the capability of exercising power for its own sake. That's pretty much my problem with the "system" as we know it. The is absolutely no interest, it would seem, in governance. And that's what's screwing the American people.
Con's correct. I have always enjoyed Mr Ventura tho I would not vote for the man.

r.
I would respectfully add Pennsylvania to Amy's list.