Ahhh, Sarah!
Ahhh, Mitt!
Ahhh, Donors!
The ironies of we, the lazy-ass 47% who do not pay federal income taxes, are many. These are among them:
. Numbers of the working-poor and the retired elderly and the ill and elderly are part of the 47%.
. Too, many of the working-poor and elderly-retired pay no federal income taxes but have paid and many still pay payroll taxes. The smarmy suggestion in Mr. Romney's smug and incomplete assertion is that citizens in the latter category are sponging off their betters.
. The states above in red have, from the onset of a consistently-levied federal income tax in the early twentieth century, have paid far, far less in federal income taxes to Washington than they get from the federal government (for roads, education, Aid to Dependent Children, health initiatives, special education, and much, much more). And they resent it and they resent that we know it.
. Fewer than one percent of those who also pay no federal income taxes do not pay because they are enormously wealthy and have very solid accountants who help them take advantage of legal tax loopholes, ones they expect Mr. Romney to protect and multiply.
And the hits just keep on coming, because, when you add to all this
. Mr. Romney's liking to fire people;
. Mr. Romney's assertion that corporations are people;
. Mr. Romney's disparaging the Pennsylvania family's cookies as "bought at a 7-11" and not "homemade";
. Mr. Romney's disparaging a woman's raincoat (as she offers to shake his hand at a rally) as bought at a discount store;
. Mr. Romney's telling the same donor group who heard we were moochers that the Israel-Palestinian conflict is thoroughly and hopelessly unresolvable now and forever;
. Mr. Romney's dogged refusal to share taxes while scoring the rest of us for not paying taxes;
. Mr. Romney's thoroughly confusing, at that Boca fundraiser, nuclear with so-called 'dirty' bombs;
. Mr. Romney (again at the Boca event) saying that Hispanic voters are a threat not simply to his party but to our country;
...when you consider all this, what you might easily be tempted to conclude is that
to win, Progressives don't need Stupid-And-Fiercely-Proud-Of-It Sarah Palin on the challengers' ticket as the vice-presidential nominee because Sarah Palin now heads that ticket.
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And for the great myth that minorities are lazy- if you actually worked with them you find that not only are the majority damned hard working, willing to make multiple bus transfers to get to multiple jobs, and are just as annoyed and focal about the few who really do "just sit on their butts and collect welfare." and last time I looked, they are all Americans.
You can't hate Americans and be a patriot.
He's run a stupendously inept campaign so far but it's still looking like a close result.
The video might help voters to wake up to solid facts about what to expect when the reps come into power for presidency.
R
I assume that, by payroll taxes, you mean the monthly payments for Social Security and Medicare.
Here's the problem: In order to make those payments, you have to have an income and, in order to have an income, you have to pay income taxes.
The only way around this is to claim so many deductions (which is entirely legal) that you have no withholdings taken out of your check. Otherwise, if you don't make enough to owe any taxes after deductions, you have to file an income tax return in order to get that money back.
Romney was conflating two numbers: the total number of people by percentage receiving some form of federal assistance and the number of people who pay nothing at all because they have made nothing on the books.
Reiterating the falsehood that people can pay payroll taxeds without paying income taxes simply perpetuates the Republican tendency toward over-simplification.
If Romney had said that 47% of the American people pay no NET income taxes, he would still have been wrong but the fact remains that even if you don't pay income taxes or make payroll deductions, you still pay taxes: sales taxes, garbage collection fees, water and sewer fees, and the not to be forgotten federal taxes on gasoline and other federally taxed commodities (wireless phones come to mind immediately), not to mention fees for driver's licenses, auto registrations....
Romney statement was so wrong that it has stunned everyone, yet there are people in my office who are saying that what Romney said was in fact true....and most of them aren't anywhere near the one percent unless they run into them at the movies. Wait. Those people don't go to the movies. They have movie theaters built into their homes.
BTW, Johnny, my boy, I think you meant "excoricate" not "score" although I could stretch my mind around that unusual usage of the word.
The bottom line is that Romney was 100% wrong. No one in America escapes paying federal, state, and local taxes, and the less you make, the more regressive the taxes become.
He was not talking about people not paying any taxes but as a strategy 47% are not paying income tax right now and it will be tough to win them over. I do not agree with the 47 or the sentiment but, as a candidate he is probably correct. His problem is that he tries to be perfect when in public and he comes of as an ass when this stuff comes out. His only chance is to come clean- a la Mrs Thatcher-lay it out there=What America do you want in 2016? Do you want to go down this road to Greece status or a better way. Here is my plan and why I think it makes for a better America
You should get that money, anyone who thinks otherwise is clueless. This was moronic but, so was Michelle Obama saying "All this for a damn flag" and Barry O nodding in agreement.
Both give a disconnect from a certain part of our countries mosiac. I am not a fan of Romney on many issues but, I do think he loves this country. I see the Obama's in action and I get the willies.
The fun thing is because the explanation is a tiny bit complex -- can't be bumper-stickered (yet)--the days following the revelation have examples like yours filling the newspapers and keeping the story alive and growing. A normal gaffe gets 2 news cycles and becomes a minor performance - this one is becoming Mitt's Tour De Farce.
And you will love my piece tomorrow re: all this.
he is the kinda man that History, with her Dustbin,
knows what to do with.
the guy is digging his grave and bringing shame on his part:
"there are 47 percent who are with him,(the legitimate president of the United States of America)
who are dependent upon government,
who believe that they are victims,
who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them,
who believe that they are entitled to health "
~
Boy's education was spent in the insanity of mormon texts
and not the Enlightenment literature all us
serious kiddos read.
johnny locke
"He that would seriously
set upon the search of truth,
ought in the first place to prepare his mind
with a love of it.
For he that loves it not,
will not take much pains to get it;
nor be much concerned when he misses it.
There is nobody in the commonwealth of learning
who does not profess himself a lover of truth:
and there is not a rational creature
that would not take it amiss
to be thought otherwise of.
And yet, for all this,
one may truly say,
that there are very few lovers of truth,
for truth's sake,
even amongst
those who persuade themselves that they are so.
How a man may know whether he be so in earnest,
is worth inquiry:
and I think there is one unerring mark of it, viz.
The not entertaining any proposition
with greater assurance than the proofs
it is built upon will warrant.
Whoever goes beyond this measure of assent,
it is plain receives not the truth in the love of it;
loves not truth for truth's sake,
but for some other bye-end. "
Like a paradise for rich rapers of the Commonwealth.
Then a fine death on some other planet, some other fucking world.
With Anne , sure. She be sealed with him, poor gal.
us?
we aint true believers, we.
"Politicians have perfected the art of projectile vomiting, with words" - Lyle Elmgren
Americans deserve more real choices. Get rid of the defacto two party system.
Terrific writing and thinking.
No wonder he doesn't bank in America. And America should not bank on Romney.
And we definitely should not vote for a man who has an active contempt for those he claims he wants to lead. It gives a lot of weight to Gov Deval Patrick's assertion at the DNC that Mitt wants the job more than he wants to do the work involved. He is unworthy of our trust AND of our votes.
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but I live in nTexas and when I made over $200,000 I had to pay close to 35%
Now we don't pay STATE tax. Or any tax on food items.