This is a reason I cannot take seriously any religion or secular ideology promising redemption/social rehabilitation to all regardless of how evil your behavior.

Doesn't take much to bring out the beast. No, Jon. No redemption possible.

Matt It's really beyond my understanding.

I will say that when my son was alive, I saw the opposite personally. Most people were protective of him. He didn't suffer from retardation (which is common among kids with CP but not pervasive) and that may have made a difference.

I'm not sure what I would have done to someone who hurt him. I'm glad I never had to find out.

I honestly had no idea but of course I generally come in contact with them in protective environments, casual passing, or in cultural events where aside from snide comments I've never seen physical conflict.

Yes, there are people who have chosen evil, revel in being truly bad, and though I try and find some good, they don't want it seen. another reason i may sit meeting on First days but am not a Friend (I suspect they have better souls than me- the Frank is only a few score of generations deep)

Kosh I'm glad, too.

kenneth you're very wise

" A chain is only as strong as its weakest link."

I lost my comment again.(due to google chrome)

Helen Keller,Karen Killilea,
Joni Eareckson,Thomsa Quasthoff

Those four have had the financial and moral support of their families.
They have become fully accepted members of society.
Thomas Quasthoff is music professor.

I wish all disabled people could be as lucky.

Even among the deadly street gangs of New York, beating up on retarded and crippled kids was considered bad mojo and unlucky. Isn't it wonderful that the bullies and thugs that populate American high schools have grown beyond that West Side Story foolishness and allowed their vicious inner Republican to come out?

Heidi so do I

neut yep :(

I have this article taped over my desk-

'He was our touchstone'
A grieving mother finds comfort recalling her son's unconditional love
By Marianne Leone | March 21, 2005

Jesse Cooper, the 17-year-old son of actors Marianne Leone and Chris Cooper, died Jan. 3 at their home in Kingston of Sudden Unexplained Death in Epilepsy Syndrome. Shortly after his death, his mother began writing this essay.

Lately, I've been obsessing about moving to Italy. Then I wouldn't have to take a body blow every time I saw a certain brand of juice box on the supermarket shelves. I'm pretty sure they don't carry that brand in Italy. I don't need to buy juice boxes anymore, not where I live now. I live in the altered state known as grief. I've been living there since the morning of Jan. 3, when I found my son dead in his bed. He was 17 years old.


http://www.boston.com/yourlife/family/articles/2005/03/21/he_was_our_touchstone/?page=full

Nuet-Wolf - a bully knows no political party

link was altered-Sorry

http://www.boston.com/yourlife/family/articles/2005/03/21/he_was_our_touchstone/?page=full

jay thanks!

and when i say the ONLY cure for those who harm kids is a bullet to the head.......people are disgusted.....go figure....
R

The frustration of some parents is often dumped on their children... disabled or otherwise. Shaken baby syndrome, neglect and straight up murder aren't the only causes of death. You have to have a license to drive a car or own a dog, but any idiot can have a child.

steel i share your outrage, just not your solution

jmac any idiot may yes.

We 'bumped' on the active feed.
I hope we learn to wear shin guards,
football helmet with `kiss-guard.
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I may comment later. I thought?
I forgot my books today. My O!
There's a book you'd like ref:`
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Colonial religious "Scribblers."

It's done as an historical research.
It's highly recommended by scholars.
It goes into immigration, Quakers,
and ignorant bible thumper Quacks.

Martin E. Marty recommends it.
It is a eye-opener. It taught me.

I got it at Jamestown, Virginia.
I seem to be browsing old books.
Second reads are more interesting

I agree about Scanner's last Post.
I'll go see if I posted. I hope I did.
Maybe it appeared on the O! fed.

There should be no mercy for those who abuse children..particularly those who are impaired. A large maze with no way out seems about right. Let them wander forever.

It's monstrous but from what I've observed it's understandable. Predators of every type always go where they're most likely to get their needs met whether their need is to beat, rape or simply wound with words.

Disabled children are the weakest and therefore the easiest to harm. The only defense a child has is the adults around it, if those adults are predators, or simply useless, then the child will be harmed. It's no surprise that the predator is always weak or flawed but has just enough strength to harm their victime.

People have all kinds of belief systems. The predator (and guilty bystanders) may believe with all their heart they will be forgiven but there is no guarantee. Experts are wrong all the time, eggs aren't deadly and the world isn't flat. I guess they'll find out when they die if they're going to spend eternity suffering. That may be exactly what happens to them.

Anyone can see that the US (and people of the US) completely fails at protecting the weak, yet aside from the occasional Big Show, it excels at protecting predators of all kinds. It would be nice if the strong would get together to protect the weak while they're still alive. Maybe the next few generations will achieve what the last ones have failed to do.

Nothing in this post surprises me. How sad is that?

Art Thank you!

Ande they will.

L'H quite sad and I am with you in that.

A sad statistic.

Bud awful.

I did not know that fact, so thanks for bringing it to our attention. My personal observation, however, has been similar to Kosh's.

Crank I have to believe that you, Kosh, and I, and many, are rather sheltered in some manner.

while not trying to change yours or anyone's opinion of the death penalty,let me ask a question.......where i live a man in his twenties kidnapped,molested,and killed a boy i believe was nine at the time.he served a few years,was released,and then kidnapped ,molested, and murdered my best friends three year old sister.what possible....100% sure penalty after the first act could have prevented the second?....other than death?......100%....
excuse me,but this is one of these,rare,makes me wanna punch a hole in my computer just talking about....

Steel believe me when I say I do share your outrage. I do disagree w the solution and in another post I promise to address your points more fully.

Disgusting. This reminds me of a story of what happened at an institution where orphans were tied in their cribs for 20 hours a day. It housed mentally ill children and physically deformed children as well as infants society discarded. :(

The inhumanity is inexcusable. I've no mercy for people who've violated children who can't fight back. Just be glad these rotten bastards won't ever have to face me. I'd have to be restrained from removing evil by any means, including some which might cause me to become a criminal.

B. Great to see you here! And you're so right.

Disabled children and elderly infirm: Sitting ducks for non-coping adults, even people who are not inherently evil.

Lezlie

So sad. ... In elementary school I used to push the wheelchair of a boy with MD around the school to help him, and keep him company. I was surprised to learn my son did the same thing for a boy with MS last year at his middle school. He says he got in trouble for being late to class. Go figure. ... R.

Lezlie YES.

Deborah that teacher oughta be shaken.

Lezlie,
That is a nice way of saying it, I was trying and it sounded like I was excusing the behavior so I refrained-Thanks

When you have no conscious and it is 99% you'll get away with it, what's stopping them.

Kenny not much :(

Jay,
I never expected to say this but

Been there, done that.

Literally.

Not of the same cause, but literally, right down to the age
and the month in which it occurred.

Kosh,
I am sorry for your loss. I have taken care (with much help) of an elder but, my children are healthy up to now. I cannot imagine the experience, would like to think I would be up to the challenge but, thankful that I may never know.

What more can I say?