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MAY 21, 2012 11:49AM

Chicago - Do Protests Actually Nudge Us More To The Right?

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Do Protests Actually Nudge Us More To The Right? 

I think it is telling to see coverage of the NATO meeting in Chicago, or more precisely, to see the protesters outside of the meetings.It takes me back to the heady days of the 60s and 70s when internal protests of the United States in general, and the Vietnam War in particular, colored our nightly news.   

 

Coming from “middle America,” with a family made of “middle American values,” I often looked at the protests with the eyes of my parents. I was a bit too young to get drafted for Vietnam, and it was safe to say that my parents were as much for Nixon to beat Humphrey as I was in our mock 6th grade election.

 (Only my uncle ever had the courage to say that Nixon was a crook BEFORE the Watergate years, and only my cousin Amy was for Humphrey in all of the people and relatives and friends I knew…she was in 8th grade then.) 

 

I remember the Democratic Convention riots back in that era, and the feeling of my parents that only conservative values were strong enough of a response to what I believe was fear that the rest of the world inspired in us. The Russians had all but caught up in the visible sciences, and we were still reeling from a Korean Conflict, the Bay Of Pigs, The Cuban Missle Crisis, and the assassination of The Kennedy boys.

That was strong negative karma, and for most of my family, only conservative middle class values could stand up to the progression of anarchy.

So watching protesters on the Nightly News only threw us more to the right on the political spectrum.

 

Sometimes I wonder if it still does? It is a theory…probably not a very original one…but I wonder if protesters on television serve to push a big section of the masses more conservative?

It would be nice to think that we all applaud our constitutional rights to protest and free speech, but is there a backlash to actually using them?

 

No answers here...just questions...

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Depends on the style of protest and what it's about... my favorite protest was one organized by Malcolm X. The NYPD arrested and black Muslim on some trumped up charge, so Malcolm got the men of the Nation of Islam together and that night, dressed in their best suits and ties they surrounded the precinct. They didn't shout or make speeches, break windows or set fires, all they did was stand on the sidewalk in focused silence facing the police station. When the bail bondsman arrived and the cops released their friend they didn't cheer, jeer or celebrate... they just turned and walked away in silence. The NYPD got the message.
what j said...not so much whats being protested, as much as HOW the protestors act.violence and destruction only defeats ur protest,no matter how righteous it may be.
Good points J.D. and Mz Fifth Element. My life recently has been dedicated to ushering in a proto fascist state. I too welcome the pics of the hippy dippy Chicago protesters because, from the middle of the road folks I've spoken with, those images do harden conservative values in the Great Undecideds. Hurrah for the dumb bastard protesters...you're helping to do our work. Triple CHeez- G-Rated!
Yeah -- I think you are probably right to a degree....when it gets ugly....and that's too bad. I think history has proven that most, not all, but most of what was being protested in the 60's -- needed to be protested. I suspect we might find the same thing is happening today...it just needs to be done without blowing stuff up or beating people.....interesting question.
In my world, there has to be an additional stimulus to get points of view to change. The civil rights movement was about fairness. When the America people saw what was happening to the marchers, the brutality against people marching for civil rights, especially when white kids got killed in Mississippi, they decided they better take a look at this issue again. When they did fairness was made into laws that we are still working through to this day.

Similarly, when the war became the issue, nightly newscasts of the war followed by the news of the demonstrators, who looked like our neighbors and kids being beaten in the streets of Chicago followed by Kent State, galvanized enough of the people to demand a change and then we had Watergate.

Currently we have the news of demonstrations being controlled by the “mainstream” of Fox etc, without a strong voice of opposition or any real news about what it means in today’s society. It’s the fairness issue again with many examples; Wars we are participating in, Arizona’s SB 1070, corporations are people, reported by the news but without balance and depth.

Without this element in the picture, points of view will not be changed especially in the internet age which has exponentially increased the amount of information but not done anything for the quality of that information. rated
There is no way to reward an excellent comment except by quoting it:

"if we've learned anything from OWS and their apologists, its that these "justice" movements have nothing to do with justice, and everything to do with acting out when the vote doesn't go your way."
by Baltimore Aureole

So there it is - and it's somebody from my neighborhood, too.

Lew
It does depend on the protest, the matter/s being protested, and the behavior of the police and the protesters. The behavior of the Chicago police at the 1968 Democratic National Convention made many people think the anti-war protesters had a point. The behavior of the protesters at the Seattle WTO meeting probably did make many people go more "right." Lots of variables. Much nuance. No right or wrong or definite answers.
I don't know the answer, but I hope the protests grow, sometimes it is the only way people learn what is happening to them.
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