The Dark Side of Inspiration: Avatar’s Suicide Hotline
In 1977, I stood up and cheered along with my fellow moviegoers, as Luke Skywalker destroyed the Death Star in that summer’s visionary blockbuster Star Wars. Our joyful reaction was involuntary. And I remember how energetic I felt following the movie when we stepped out of the dark theater into the bright sunshine: infused with youthful energy and hope for all the things I would do in my life.
Many viewers of this year’s blockbuster Avatar are experiencing the opposite response to the film – that is, entering the darkness as they exit the theater – a response that now has Avatar suicide hotlines and depression forums set up worldwide to support them. People are looking around at their world, our world, and struggling with feelings of depression and hopelessness, including suicidal thoughts. They long for the beauty of Pandora, the film’s utopian world, and – importantly – they feel that attaining that world in this one is impossible.
So people remain idealists about humanity and life on earth; that’s the good news.
The bad news is the blurring line of discernment in viewers (inspiration is one thing; fantasy is another) due to increasingly virtual experiences, online and otherwise, coupled with the parched desert of spiritual life that may be leaving them vulnerable to despair when faced with an altered, if more beautiful, version of reality.
Actor Stephen Lang, who plays Col. Miles Quaritch in the film, explains that "Pandora is a pristine world, and there is synergy between all of the creatures of the planet… I think that strikes a deep chord within people.”
Yes – we do live in a pristine world. Deep down we know that, no matter how polluted it is; the purest lotus blossom emerges from mud. That’s the deepest chord we know. And we also recall, somewhere in our DNA memory, that there is synergy between the creatures of the planet. We know that from sources as diverse as particle physicists, Buddha, St. Francis, the builders of Stonehenge, the umbilical cord, Carl Jung, the Internet and more. We even know it as “The Force” in the Star Wars saga, a concept I found comforting and energizing.
On the official Avatar Forum, there’s a thread entitled Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible. Over 1000 people have posted there, in search of help with their post-Avatar struggle with sadness. Here is a particularly concerning post:
“Ever since I went to see ‘Avatar’ I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na’vi made me want to be one of them. I can’t stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it. I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora, and then everything is the same as in ‘Avatar.’”
The Dalai Lama lives every day with the memory of a seeker who sought his wisdom about reincarnation many years ago. The Dalai Lama explained his thoughts on this process of spiritual growth through rebirth – and the student committed suicide in an attempt to advance through that process.
No, suicide is not the answer to an alluring and perplexing movie. Instead, some perspective may be in order.
I recall seeing Pink Floyd’s The Wall when I was 19 years old. It was the midnight show at the 8th Street Cinema in New York City, not far from my college dorm at NYU. After the movie, I stopped in the rest room and found a teenage girl hiding under a bathroom sink, crying. She was about 15. I asked her if she was all right, and she shared how the film was deeply upsetting to her.
There is a difference in maturity between 19 and 15, and I was able to be of some assistance. I simply reminded her that (1) it is only a movie – and (2) it is only one man’s opinion – not necessarily the truth.
What Avatar does, perhaps, is ‘penetrate the miasma,’ as the line goes, breaking through to the illusions we hold about our selves and our lives, in a manner similar, perhaps, to The Matrix (1999). It reminds us of all that can be if we step up to the challenge and art of living fully. It also reminds us of how we can stray very far from that potential.
Still, the cinema is not meant to be reality, no matter how lifelike the 3D effects may be.
We need to take from the arts what inspires us, what teaches us – enjoy it – be glad for it – remember it – even inspire others with it – and use the best of it to enhance our experience of living.
Recalling the end of what may be the most enduring other-world of all time, Camelot, King Arthur says this to the young messenger who will keep the legend alive:
Each evening, from December to December,
Before you drift to sleep upon your cot,
Think back on all the tales that you remember
Of Camelot
Where once it never rained till after sundown,
By eight a.m. the morning fog had flown...
Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known as…
Camelot
Camelot continues to reside in our mind and heart, because that is precisely where it does the most good – as we move, consciously or unconsciously, toward the ideals of the Round Table.
In time, I hope that the promising land of Avatar may find a similar residence.


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But I also know that Planet earth was never supposed to be a utopia and all of our deepest thinkers remind us of that: Buddha cautioned that Life is suffering. Jesus reminded us the poor will always be with us. There is no religious thought that promises us an earthly utopia and in fact those who try to achieve utopia on earth usually end up as genocidal maniacs [pol pot].
Suicide hotlines for a movie? Wow.
It's just that kind of perspective we need.
But I suppose it could be depressing to those that aren't as jaded by life as I have been. I'm in my 30's so I'm pretty hardened to the random crap of life.
Thanks for this post. I guess it goes to show that people in the entertainment industry need to think long and hard about all of the implications of their work. I feel that, from the ending, James Cameron meant for it to be encouraging - like we could redeem ourselves if we resolved to do so and change in our own minds (as was evidenced by the physical manifestation of the characters avatar). But perhaps I read something different in it that others see, or was intended.
Thanks for a great post!
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I don't mean to be cold. I went through a depression period a long while back...and frankly, I'd much rather go through treatment for lymphoma again than go through that.
But my guess is the movie is hardly the major catalyst for the depression…or for any suicides that may be attributed to it.
My further guess is that more people were inspired by the movie to effort toward the betterment of humankind…than were put into a blue funk.
Thanks for the thoughts...but the glass still looks half full to me.
Destruction in the name of progress and profit. Will it ever cease?
Ideally, instead of turning inward to depression and suicidal thoughts, Avatar viewers should get involved in causes that can bring us closer to realizing Pandora's possibilities: Work for peace, for clean air and water, for climate control, for justice -- to name just a few roads to a better future.
The way I see it, when we perceive the world as having to be perfect in order to be happy – as I did when I was depressed – it’s to counter a deep wound inside. Whatever has caused the wound, feelings of sadness and emptiness can sometimes run so deep that everything is perceived through this filter; and some movies and TV shows, instead of inspiring, can sometimes create more of a rift by contrast. (To be clear, it isn’t necessarily the film, or any film, itself – anything can trigger someone – but “Avatar” also happens to be a very commanding film with intense visuals and a strong message that appeals to universal longings.)
It has taken me a long time to believe that we do live in a beautiful world – but one that is also full of imperfections. It didn’t come from trying to make things perfect, but from acknowledging the pain and loss and sadness I felt inside, giving it voice, learning how to treat the “uglier” parts of myself with compassion and acceptance. Learning to accept the less-than-perfect in life doesn’t mean giving up in trying to make things better, but even that can only come with acknowledging life as it is. (to quote Dr. Phil – which I rarely do – “you’ve got to name it to claim it.”) If all we expect of life is that it should be gleaming and perfect, it is a set-up for disillusionment and disappointment.
"I believe that there is a subtle magnetism in nature, which, if we unconsciously yield to it, will direct us aright." - Henry David Thoreau
But let's pretend the movie does depict a viable alternative world. Face it: we only encounter the good side of Pandora. Who knows what else goes on there? I thought it was common knowledge that every paradise has its serpent, but apparently such knowledge isn't so common after all, and more's the pity. At least "300" shows what happens to those citizens who don't fit in, i.e. they get hurled from a cliff as newborns. So anyone who believes in the "utopia" it presents needs more than just counselling - he/she needs a reality check, and maybe just a summer reading list.
The person that you quoted as saying "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora, and then everything is the same as in ‘Avatar" leaves me thinking that maybe some people shouldn't go out without an escort by their therapists. Great reason to commit suicide buddy!
Thanks to Judy B for putting this on the OS cover. Two months ago I doubt this would have seen the light of day beyond your "friends list".
I think it's important to remember, though, that 1000 people feeling depressed after the movie hardly constitute a quorum. The film is about to make 2 billion dollars. I'm not great at math, and ticket prices vary (as much as $15 for the IMAX version) ... but that has to be ... millions and millions and millions of people, all over the world.
A thousand of them felt bummed out.
I'll take those numbers. I saw the film twice and felt exhilarated both times ... by the characters and the story and the headlong story-telling verve of the movie. The fact that I have no floating mountains or glowing plants where I live was pretty much irrelevant to me. I think most people feel the same way. We live in a world where one psycho's response to a film can close it down (remember the kid who attacked a subway token booth after seeing "Money Train"? Or the gang fights that broke out when "The Warriors" opened?) Isolated pathological responses to a film should not define our judgment of it. I think of that great Onion headline: "Stupid Dead Kid Ruins Fun Toy For Everyone". "Avatar" is way too much fun to be ruined by a handful of bi-polar cranks.
See it and judge for yourself.
I think those who fully suspend disbelief in addition to using their right brain to assemble the illusions (as opposed to the left brain perception which stresses story over experience) will feel let down when comparing actual reality with the virtual reality they experienced in the theater.
This film is a masterpiece of story-telling, even if some find the story itself wanting. The bar to be cleared by Hollywood filmmakers has been raised dramatically. Not only is Avatar now the highest grossing film in history, it's poised to bring in a billion or two more. And the level of craftsmanship in film making sets new standards in digital effects, editing, design, sound and direction.
All of these elements can easily seduce those of us wearied by the accumulating layers of crap which defines the world today into an alternate reality. But would you really want to live in a world with prehistorically vicious beasts and not a shelter in sight. If it never rains on Pandora, where to all those waterfalls come from?
Still, I'm ready to go back to Pandora but only with popcorn included.
Then I read Tomreedtoon's comment and decided not to bother.
More to the point, a thousand people calling a hot line out of the millions who have seen the film is a LOWER than average incidence of suicidal ideation from that expected from any sample population of the same size. On average, one percent of the population is considering suicide at any one time, so a thousand callers is a order of magnitude less than anticipated.
Another important point is that the degree of experiential saturation - color, sound, 3d effects - create an absorbing event that constitutes an altered state of consciousness - a trance state. With some people, and especially those who already have underlying emotional issues, the sudden termination of the trance state creates a disoriented state mental state that can trigger depressive episodes.
Hypnotherapists use this technique to break rapport, an important step in certain therapeutic processes. There's nothing magical or spiritual about it.
I see a lot of comments here, but not many ratings. Remember folks, if you like the post don't forget to rate.
For a moviegoer who can't see through this worn-out premise, the movie would be quite depressing indeed: Earth culture and people are "bad." All the "good" people are on Pandora.
Well . . . there's no such thing as Pandora or Pandorans. Just us pretty good Earthlings, doing our best.
I think that's what art does, largely. It confronts us with the main archetypes of our time. If that makes you resent the portrait of the private army wreaking destruction on foreign beings, well...
And can nobody else on this theological forum spot the fact that the white guy who becomes a Na'vi actually fulfills ancient prophecy, willingly dies and is reborn? That every religion in the world has a realm of the dead spirits whom we honor and communicate with? Anyone?
Maybe I wasn't too far off the mark.
I loved it. If anything, it kind of got me fired up. It was worth the $14. Id hate to think I had to pay admission to a run of suicidal thoughts.
If the real world blows, that take some of the "whatever" you got from the movie and manifest a tiny bit of it for yourself as a psychic oasis.
I also find the utopian framing a bit off: In a complete and total paradise you wouldn't find yourself running in horror as your loved ones died and your sacred home burned.
In both the visual enjoyment of Pandora and your relationship to it afterwards, it's about perspective.
Yes, it is a great movie to recall inside of what is possible, which to me is more about hope, not despair. No one ever promised it wouldn't be work.
Thanks Carole.
You see I read C.S.Lewis' "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" about 50 times as a child. (My parents did not know there were more than one 'Narnia' book. Alas)
I've never felt anything but longing for Narnia ever since. Glad I did not go to 'Avatar' with my extended family. I might forget Narnia and long for Pandora.
Folks, half the population in USA or thereabouts are on anti-depressants, have a wee bit of compassion. We many are suffering souls and utopian dreams can be deadly.
I'm actually happy with my internalized Narnia. After all, it's always there--just on the other side of a wardrobe in a depressing house.
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The point is, an inspiring dream is just that -- and, as Amy said so well, "we do live in a beautiful world – but one that is also full of imperfections." Therein lies much of its beauty.
"As a disabled combat veteran working at a non-profit, I work with other veterans every day, including suicidal veterans.
I found the film highly inspirational, even with the dark themes of
political betrayal, personal betrayal, environmental devastation, and even the human's corporate / military genocide of the Na'vi. After nearly 20 years of war in Iraq, the toll on our nation's emotions and economy are simply devastating, with 480,000 U.S. casualties, and a financial cost in the trillions of dollars. Iraq still lays in ruins under our brutal occupation, with one million dead and five million internal and international refugees, a lack of water, electricity, sewers, garbage collection, jobs, and legitimate domestic government.
May I suggest that, as a public service, you include the national suicide prevention hotline with your essay: (800) 273-TALK [veterans press 1]."
When was that exactly? I must have missed that day in history class. Not intending to be mean, but come on... we are beasts. If we ever transcend our beastly nature, I would be surprised (not that I should live so long).
It reminds me of the tourists who will stare in wonder at the animatronic deer, beavers, bears and waterfalls at a local amusement park... but have no interest in actually going out into the nearby national park to see the real thing.
Much too much disconnect with the real world going on.
But, Avatar is a piece of fiction god d*** it! And no matter how nicely packaged there are a lot of holes in James Cameron's plot. There are many films that did it much more for me than Avatar. Some of them are in black and white with little to no special effects. Remember plot, character development and dialog?
I can think of "All Quiet on the Western Front," and then there's the one where the corrupt French generals keep sending the infantrymen (one of them was Kirk Douglas) against the impregnable fortress until they mutiny. That was Hollywood at its best.
Still its encouraging to see that the yonger generations (it makes me feel so old to use that phrase) can still wish for a Pandora. Maybe they will find it on the other side of the abyss that we seem headed for, or in an alternate universe or maybe thats what nirvana feels like. Maybe my four year old granddaughter will find it.
As an NYU student, we used to spin the Astor Place cube on New Year's Eve. One year it turned up missing altogether, a renowned delicious prank, and was later returned. Ah... those were the days... Nirvana enough for me!
For those of you wondering, see it here:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_images/2005-11-19-alamo.jpg
Contrast this with the world we live in where every attempt to address even some of the issues highlighted in the film are blocked by competing and (often clearly) malicious interests. Nearly 50 years after "Silent Spring" and decades' worth of research documenting habitat erosion and the global extinction, we still can't even admit there's troubling evidence of climate change without energy company shills and conspiracy nuts who distrust anything said by anyone with a doctorate hacking into emails and disseminating them without context as evidence of nefarious activity. Yet it's corporations who the SCOTUS feels need more protection and more rights.
It's not hard to see why so many people would prefer a world where the bad, mechanical bodyguard of StripMine Corp. gets his comeuppance with a well-placed feathered arrow, no matter how virtual.
Unfortunately, there are fewer and fewer Walden Ponds for modern-day Thoreaus to retreat to. I only hope suicide hotlines are suitable replacements.
There were many stories which portrayed worlds I wanted to live on. They were all 3D in my mind, and much more subtle and nuanced than a movie can be.
But suicide? Come on, I'm sure that when I walk down the street many people contemplate suicide because they aren't as cool, or good looking as me. That is no excuse. All that is needed it to cast aside all inner doubt and become like me - a legend in my own mind.
Movies are fake. Death is real. Movies are cheap. Death is way to costly. Besides, this is Cameron's first shot at creating his own perfect world. Wait for the next one it may even be better.
But $6 popcorn does inspire fantasies of early death. But that's not sick, just common sense rearing its ugly head.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html
Also here:
http://www.examiner.com/x-6732-SF-Health-and-Beauty-Examiner~y2010m1d12-Avatar-film-causing-depression-and-suicidal-thoughts
You can also type the words 'avatar depression' in your Bing or Google search, and see the results.
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I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora, and then everything is the same as in ‘Avatar.’”
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This scary remark reminds me of an old episode of Twilight Zone from the mid-1960s, A Stop at Willoughby.. This guy, whose life isn't going so well, has a recurring dream during his evening train commute about this wonderful, Utopian town called Willoughby. One day he has this dream while he's riding on the train. He sleepwalks off the speeding train, falls down an embankment and dies. His body is picked up by a hearse which, when its rear door is closed, reveals the name "Willoughby & Son Funeral Home.".
Utopian fantasies only have value in the long run if they can be used to set the stage for attainable social change. The anti-slavery abolitionists and labor unionists of the 19th century were Utopians, but they also had a firm grip on reality and what it would take to move toward a better world in the real world.