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JANUARY 16, 2011 10:14AM

He Held the Still-Beating Heart Up to the Crowd-How Crude

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It took four priests to hold down the wildly struggling, shrieking man on the large flat stone tablet. The high priest then took a razor-sharp piece of flint  and cut open the man's chest until he got to the still beating heart. He snatched the heart up and showed it to the cheering crowd. He then completed the task by severing the legs and arms and throwing them down the steps. This type of ritual was repeated numerous times by the Aztecs, a rite that seemed to contradict a society that had accomplished so many great feats. The Aztecs and other older cultures used human sacrifice ceremonies to appease the gods as they were intensely frightened that the gods would destroy the world if they were not honored with these graphic, violent acts: “Life is because of the gods; with their sacrifice they gave us life.... They produce our sustenance... which nourishes life.”[10]


Every time I read of such accounts my consistent impulse is to withdraw in disgust at such a practice. How uncivilized such rites were and savage. Perhaps you have the same reaction. It would have been much more civilized if the priest had simply fired a few rounds with a Glock into the guy instead, huh?
How common was this practice? Historians disagree with the number. It ranges from 250,000 per year on the high end of estimates to the most agreed upon number of 20,000 per year. In the United States 31,000 people die from guns each year, a little over half are suicides. So our violent gun deaths per year are very close in number to the Aztec sacrifice numbers.
So what? You aren't suggesting that we are as barbaric as the ancient Aztecs are you? Well, the short answer is yes, I am. Gun deaths are our sacrificial rituals. Every few years or months a new tragedy finds us. A crazed man or woman grabs a gun with ease because of few restrictions, opens fire and leaves innocents dead. We gather together, wring our hands, pray, bless those who have passed. Politicians and pundits give grand, moving speeches as we watch captivated, provide 'evidence', and we claim that this will be the last one. Even before our tears dry and the echos of the gunshots stop vibrating in our psyche, another tragedy occurs and the exact same ritual is repeated. Our high priests equivalents say that those innocents who were murdered will not have died in vain. But they have. Most of the sacrifices happen out of the direct spotlight, thirty-four per day is the average. For these off-stage deaths there is little outrage, little attention paid, in fact, the reaction is mostly yawns as we turn the page or head for another, happier channel or website.
It is often said that we are a sick society and people with my world view will offer examples. Some listen or read and either nod their heads in agreement or shake them in furious opposition to the premise. Perhaps using the word sick is the problem. Violent or insane might be a more precise term. We worship our guns more than we worship our God or materialism. The reason is as unreasonable as the Aztecs thinking that their world was in peril every 52-years and would end without sacrifices to the gods. Our gun worshipers believe that we as a society need guns in order to protect ourselves from the government. In short, gun ownership is a way of insuring that the government can be defeated if need be by armed conflict.

This concept would be laughable if not for the fact that many of my very best friends really believe in such a myth. We taxpayers pour over half a trillion dollars into the United States military each year. The belief that such an entity that turned evil could be defeated by a bunch of gun owners is like thinking a brave bunch of souls could take on an inner-city gang and win armed with pea-shooters and marching to kazoo music. It is pure insanity.


One hundred million background checks were performed last year on potential gun purchases. Seven hundred thousand were turned down. There are at least 300 million guns circulating around at this moment in time. The premise that the government is out to “get our guns,” is plain stupid. The entire thing is stupid. We allow people to have rifles that can shoot through cinder blocks from three hundred yards away, conceal automatic pistols with extended clips like our most recent murderer who was able to get off twenty more shots than he would have been able to do when such things were banned, and allow loopholes to existing laws that make it so people can avoid all background checks of any kind. Can you imagine this headline:

34 Victims of Brutal Heart Removal Found in January


Our country would go into a collective frenzy of outrage, confusion, and rage. But replace 'heart removal' with 'gun violence' and we yawn, turn the channel or move to the sport's page or comics. I am no better. I am an American also. I play the game. I shed tears when President Obama made his moving speech in Tucson. But these gun deaths are simply part of America. One million gun deaths since my political idol, Robert Kennedy, was murdered in public on my seventeenth birthday in 1968. I was a seventh grade boy watching the JFK funeral in tears, and saw a murder live in real time when Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald. And despite these assassinations few gun laws were placed on the books.  George Wallace and Ronald Reagan were wounded, a mayor murdered and the killings of those not in politics accelerated but still no real restrictions.  Recently the debate has become more and more hysterical.  To protest guns is like fighting the ocean.
What would have happened to an Aztec who would have jumped up to protest the sacrifices? Of course we know. He himself would have been killed, probably sacrificed, presented to their society as a serious problem and demonized as a threat to the important goal of keeping the gods content. When anti-gun people voice their concerns they are shouted down using some of the same arguments.  In the public arena,  politicians have learned that any anti-gun talk is pure poison including even mild suggestions of  restrictions on ownership, or ammunition. The gun lobbyists and gun enthusiasts own this society. McCarthyism was nothing in comparison. Nothing will change, regardless of any laws that are passed. If extended clips are banned then they will just sell them at gun shows or mail order or by other methods. People who want them enough will have them. Now more than ever before restricting guns or ammo will not even be considered. 

The reality is that we accept the thousands of gun deaths each year. The innocents that are killed are worth the price may not be what society verbalizes but it is the truth. One cannot argue with the facts. They die so that a false belief can be carried on. This gun loyalty at all costs is one that dominates our society. Some of the nicest, kindest souls I know in my rural life feel more intensely about this issue than any other one, including religion. Gun control or even simple, common sense restrictions will not happen until the entire view of the gun owners changes and that may not happen for generations. I wish that it were not so but it is. Nothing is going to change over the Tucson murders. It will be over as soon as Britney Spears gets some new operation or a sports star gets caught doing some immoral deed. We will all forget until a gun goes off somewhere and takes out several more of our human sacrifices. It is what we accept and almost expect. I wish it were not so but I am only one lonely voice. A voice that nobody in the gun world wants to hear.
We are all so advanced. We no longer allow beating hearts to be shown to the world. No, we prefer gun wounds. The victims  of either practice share one thing.    They are both equally dead.

 But what about expanding mental health services?  Won't this latest tragedy give us the resolve to identify and care for more victims of mental health challenges?  HA! HA! HA!--I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh at you for suggesting a reform that makes perfect sense. But the fight for simple mental health parity took years and years.  We have our national strategy in place.  We throw the mentally ill into our prisons where they are not treated but tortured.  They are out of our immediate sight which accomplishes the goal.  Basically, never underestimate the level of 'who gives a shit' in this country.  

Plus,  there is no chance with the Republicans in control of the House of Representatives that anything as radical and needed like mental health care expansion or reform will be suggested.  Nothing except moves dedicated to attacking President Obama will be allowed to come to a vote there for the next two years. Those who advocate for the mentally ill are a small and lonely bunch. Ever heard of a bake sale or walk-a-thon for schizophrenia?


 "For a perspective, consider that for every one American with muscular dystrophy, there are sixty with schizophrenia. For every person with diabetes, there are six with schizophrenia. For every one with MS, there are five with schizophrenia. For every one with Alzheimer's, there are two schizophrenics feeling very, very left out of the medical research funding aspect of things. For an HIV perspective, consider that there are 800,000 living with this disease in America, earning a total of $1.792 billion in annual research funding. Yet there are more than three times as many with schizophrenia (2.6 million, in the United States), generating a scant $196 million in medical research annually. Proportionally, this means that the diseases with the better PR are getting, in sum, trillions more dollars in research than a disease which affects many more, and in some cases, much more seriously curtails their lifespan and their quality of living." Read more here:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5288/what_is_schizophrenia_trouble_arises.html?cat=5


Besides, the mentally ill play a critical role in our sacrifice rituals.  A great diversion-- " It has nothing to do with guns.  It was a solo crazy man."  It helps us all too and reassures us that only a crazed person would do such a thing.  It could never be one of us, the sane ones,  that accept 34 gun deaths per day and 500,000 of the mentally ill locked away in our prisons  as the price for a free society. 

  chainedman

Our mental health treatment


 The point?  Do not ask your politicians to walk the plank for any gun or ammo restrictions in this current evironment.  It would be political suicide.  Do not do the typical radical  left wing deal of calling President Obama a coward or spineless or whatever for not getting involved in this at this point in time. There is nothing we can do right now.  Hey, I didn't make the rules!


 

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Gotta go clean my guns and get ready for the inevitable landing of government troops in my neighborhood.
You mean they're coming already?
Sarah Palin did that same thing to the heart of an animal,....showing it to her young daughter. Hell, what's next.
The world is just too much with us

Elijah Rising
Needless to say, this was a disturbing post, but needed to wake up so many. I just heard recently that we carry more guns in porportion to our population than any country in the world. I believe we're also the most violent. When are people going to wake up and start connecting the dots? We're not the great country we used to be. We're falling quickly....as Rome did.
There's not much I can add to this. Your brought a great perspective to the debate. We have some truly skewed priorities in this country. EP!
Great Post Spud. Gun ownership is almost a religion in the south, and I'm sure everywhere else, but here, they buy weapons that could kill an elephant to squirrel hunt. Kids are taught before they can talk that guns are an American's right to own. With the strongest lobby in the world (right up there with the Jewish lobby) they won't even consider a waiting period of a few weeks to purchase guns, any type of gun. Gun Shows, forgetaboutit! There has always been and always will be guns in this country and any mental patient, even if turned down at a gun store can take a few hundred dollars and buy one on about every street corner in any city in this country. Buckle up, mandatory air bags, child seats, all to keep us safe in our cars say the insurance lobby. Then step out of the car and get your head blown off!
I come and read your post hoping each time to make a grand statement and contribute to the dialogue. But in the end all I can do is agree with everything you say. It is the problem no one wants to confront. Obama tried to expand mental services in the stimulus-stripped out. He doubled the amount awarded in the budget and you know what happened with that. The solution will continue to be what it has been...to dehumanize the mentally ill, neglect them, jail them or kill them. Keep speaking out Doc. I'm with you!
Tell us, doc, why is this:
SWITZERLAND
?
Is it more or less responsible to "target" ONLY the guns, as so many jerkers of knees do as the solution or, actually attempt to understand the various societal conditions as true causes?

The stilted thinking of the anti's(anti everyone else's possessions only) hasn't changed:
"Back in 1994, when the U.S. Congress was debating whether to ban "assault weapons," a talk show host asked Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, a sponsor of the ban, whether guns cause crime. The host noted that, in Switzerland, all males are issued assault rifles for their militia service and are required to keep them at home, yet little crime exists there. Bradley responded: "My guess is--Swiss are pretty dull--so my guess is that probably didn't happen."
In Canada you are allowed no guns for self defence. I rest my case and rate this with hgs
Nothing here an objective observer could disagree with, of course objective observers would probably be the first choice for sacrifice , and they're probably not the ones with the guns

Buffy
Switzerland--This country is used as an example of how guns and violence are not related. Well I am amused by using this country as an example. The gun worshipers love Switzerland but would not support the core of policies and beliefs that make Switzerland a peaceful, happy society. They have health care for all, loose drug laws, mental health treatment, and a childhood poverty level of under 3% compared to the United States' 20% childhood poverty level. The United States has ridiculous drug laws and still locks people up for pot possession. Mental health treatment has been turned over to our prisons and somewhere around 50 million of U.S. citizens have no health care coverage. The day I see or hear the gun nuts agree on all Swiss policies and demand that the U.S. adopt the same policies will be the day I will support the Swiss gun ownership and model being used in the United States. Until then, I call bullshit on using the Swiss argument or justification to fight gun control or simple restrictions on ammo, for example. Anyone making that argument is not comparing apples to apples. I would love our entire society to be as successful in all ways as Switzerland. I would like to adopt all of their policies not just pick out one--gun policy-- and ignore the other progressive plans and policies that have made the Swiss society peaceful.
I don't have time for "gun nuts".
I'm glad that, as a responsible American citizen who happens to own guns that they do not consume my every conscious thought.
The way I think about my guns is in the same way I think about other mechanical things I own.
Are they well made? Is it something which is made to fail such as the major appliances I repair and have owner this business for 30+ years?
Now, there is something which is so much more detrimental to the average American than the hysteria some have about guns~~the cheaply made appliances sold to the gullible public.
I am a "nut" about this because it is my business.

To me, "gun nuts" are those who are in some of those "armed compounds"~another invented scareword to frighten the gullible.
I see them as irrational persons who would be irrational about other issues if they weren't overdosing on their invented and irrational fears of the government.
The government is not going to "take my guns away" so, I don't bother to thnk like them.
I am also glad that I have no neurotic need to use an offensive buzzword toward those with whom I disagree.
The same "buzzword" is used on "bible thumpers", etc.
Even though I am an atheist, I have no neurotically defensive need to use such an intellectually devoid slur on them.
Rather, I see others as human beings who merely think/believe differently than I.
Ah, well. Why should I bother expressing my thoughts? After all, I can just sit here and wait to be called a "nut" by a "doctor".
Well conceived and executed Spuds..
XJS, surely you don't think Switzerland and the US compare in any definitive way. Switzerland does not have many of the social problems we have here, ghettos, abstract poverty, gangs, drugs. They do have nationalized health care to deal with the mentally ill.

The Alps and the fact that someone had to hold all the money had more to do with the Nazi's decision not to invade Switzerland than a fucking hand gun in every house. I'm sure the Nazi's were quaking in their boots that some watchmaker might pull a pistol on them if they invaded. Jesus shit that's a lame argument.
Super post.

Super.
I did not call you a nut at all. You presented the Switzerland link and I responded. I never even addressed my response to the Swiss policy to you specifically. It is a commonly used example by, yes gun nuts, who are quite crazed about the gun issue. I am on the border of Idaho and Eastern Washington and have been surrounded with gun owners all my life. Most of my friends would disagree heatedly with my post. I was once a hunter myself but gave it up. I fish only now. I have two guns myself. My point is that sensible gun restrictions are needed by people especially those in our cities but rural folk have been convinced that any movement is part of this great government conspiracy to disarm the population.

I thought I presented a good counter-argument to the Switzerland example. I did not make any personally insulting remarks. Last, I have explained my screen name multiple times and use it because I think it amusing.
Yes, and sensible response to the what-about-Switzerland 'argument'.
Thanks for this. Am watching Candy Crowley's CNN show, State of the Union. Did a good exploration of schizophrenia using E Fuller Torrey, Pete Early and a few other excellent experts including a prominent psychologist who is schizophrenic.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/state.of.the.union/?hpt=C1

I appreciate your comparisons of frequencies, stats that deserve far more notice.
Let's see, in the past two weeks, there have been the Arizona shootings.

There is the boy who used one of the four guns that he had in his bedroom, including his christmas present to shoot his mother after an argument about chores. The boy was having obvious problems, but still got a fourth gun for Christmas.

There is the 8 year old boy who shot and killed himself with a UZI at a gun show. His father calmly explained that it was a "small gun".

The vast majority of people who have guns are far more likely to shoot themselves or the wrong person than any attacker or criminal.

It's positively Darwinian.
No words, just a giant sigh...
Excellent. Your premise and argument are that - excellent. It saddens me deeply but I could not agree with you more. That "oh so scary boogyman" the government is coming...oh wait, when has that happened in the last 100 years? Oh right, never.
United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Sentence 1:

"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States," !

I had read this in school, but, in going back to review it I found something terribly instructive- A Google search on Militia is the only time I have ever, and I am an Internet engineer, seen a Conservapedia citation listed in the top 10.
Guns don't bother me. The desire to kill bothers me. They outlawed guns in England so the crooks switched to samurai swords. They outlawed those too. Where does it end? Outlawing kitchen knives?

Since we can't outlaw human desire then we have to look to the underlying causes of why we are so violent. Perhaps the making of violence as a virtue in the American psyche has something to do with it? Mankind is just barbarous is it's ever been, our "civilized" ways are only a veneer.
Excellent post, with lots of work and thought behind it. Whenever I think of guns, I think of what an ex-gang member told me. He said guns are for punks or cowards. They put a distance between the shooter and the target that somehow frees the shooter from the impact of the harm they do to the target. It's one thing to shoot someone; quit another to do hand to hand combat, with the stench of the person's breath in your face and stab him in the ribs, hearing the sounds of metal slicing flesh and hitting bone. The gang member says guns give people a sense of false power and false safety. Wrestling a bear and shooting a bear are two entirely different things.

Lezlie
Yes, there have been many violent societies, I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I don't think that's reason enough not to work to bring peace to ours.

Interesting and disturbing post, dr. spud.
I was thinking the other day it would take an anti-tank weapon to blast open my gun safes. Then again you could own one with enough cash. They took a few days off from a murder a day in St Louis either their cars wouldn't make a drive by or the snow and cold kept them in. They made up for it first thaw, first evening. 4 shot 2 killed. I haven't figured out the one man who was shot was in a phone booth at 1:30am in a very bad part of the city, drive by of opportunity? Your right nothing will change........o/e r++++++
Good, heartfelt post, Dr. S. I agree with you completely. Technically, US military aren't allowed to deploy on US soil, though likely they would be brought in if a full insurrection occurred. I doubt whether the numb-nuts have a real plan for overthrowing the government after shooting off the first round. Funny, aren't these the guys who are pro-military? Can you really picture them shooting at their sons and cousins?

XJS's link was written by Stehen Halbrook, the NRA's lead attorney. Big surprise that he would craft an apologia for gun ownership based on a homogenous, anti-immigrant and racist country.
I want to say one simple thing about the Aztecs. I think men were slaughtered because someone wanted to impregnate the women with genes that would only start to kick in around the 1980ties. These genes would activate and then a mass migration would start so that these people would be in place for the return of Quaxalquatal at the end of the Mayan calender. Thus Living in a place where survival might be more possible . Just one of my personal theories.
Hey all! To clarify, I am not opposed to gun ownership especially anything to do with hunting. My frustrations are with allowing weapons designed to effectively kill humans being allowed to circulate with no restrictions. The coming civil war, when the gun owners defeat the "government" what ever that is to them, is the insanity that I think has to be extinguished in this culture someday soon. This political climate is not one in which even the most dreamy liberal could seriously suggest trying to get gun or ammo control or restrictions.
I have certainly heard the reasons for gun ownership. I got Mullet growing card carrying kin Spud. They are a-lying low and waiting for the gov't to come so they can show 'em how good they can shoot.
I 'spect the gov't can outgun 'em but you know the Mullet bunch.
Dr. Spudman 44. It's always great to read, and learn from your researched post.
Let's just hope that the groundhogs don't dig up you potatoes in your backyard and make soup.
Over supper politicos learn that their congressional peers and lobby pals hate Asians, blacks, whites,
Cubans, Saudi Arabians, doctors,
lawyers, Barred Rock Speckled Hen,
themselves, and Big Egos loathe kale.

Greens.
Politico's meet anywhere in that rat maze.
Ay Fear.
The maze is a stop from a rat race small talk.
Doctors?
My favorite Dr. never does jump and jack,
pushups,
lights up...
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greens that are grown under cabinet light.
You remind me of positive and make sense.
`
I like short simple proverb riddles. Silence too.
I keep thinking of the book ref ` WE said enough`
Lawrence's book? From From Maddening Crowd.
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This is a universal truism that applies to humans.

Most people hate egotist. They remind themselves
of themselves.
I love egotist
They remind me of me.
Most people hate egotist. (The idea/riddle is within)

Your always worth a slower second read. Hide tatters!
Hide Kale Greens, and carry groundhog with you. Pets!
Then, they will fetch the newspaper and bunny slippers!
The Northern pet porcupine will protect the homestead.
Well, don't forget your kazoo, Spud.

...and what have you added to your diet, buddy? you're spicing things up around here, I'd like me suma that.
Smart. Very smart.~r
As a member of the Gunnite Faith, I am highly offended at this bit. Comparing us to the barbarian heart choppers is like comparing Jews to Jaws. It's just not fair.

Our Lord and Savior John Moses Browning never intended for gangsters to slaughter eachother in the streets. We took the gifts he gave us and misused them.

It would be like using crosses to beat homless people to death. It doesn't mean Christanity is bad because of it....it just means we need to deal with people who do that sort of thing.

Don't blame the guns...or us gun worshippers. Most of the a-holes committing violent crimes with guns don't even maintain them properly!

In a recent survey of federal prision inmates, 92% said they never cleaned their weapons!

Anyhoo, I applaud your passion, if not your point.