If he wants you he should answer.
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actually it's for my bio dad :D he doesn't have a choice...or well, he did, and already made it
It's a late Dad's Day gift he will never see.

Thanks for reading Scylla. It's nice to be heard.

and to my dad (Craig)...I know I said I'd call today, but just didn't feel like it- sorry. moody :/ Will try for tomorrow.

until he his hers, and hers, and hers, and hers
the random chattering of voices an old-fashioned telephone line of decades of women

You always introduce an interesting twist to universal themes Jules, I like the way your mind works and well you express it in words.

Love ya Rita, thank you.

Mysterious connections, these dad/daughter things.

absolutely Linnnn. I'm beginning to think that it's easier to untangle the threads of connection if you didn't live with them. I write poems for my bio dad fairly regular, my dad who raised me- not so much. My loyalty gets in the way of actually seeing him as anything other than "Dad."

I think he should, but he sounds like the Middle East, remote & insoluble ... & some men ... just ... can't.
It makes their children no less loveable, just a little crazy sometimes ...

& clear-eyed realists, & dreamers too.

Poets, even.

Perhaps the finest of the father-posts I have read here.

r.

ugh, not poets Kim ;) anything but that.

dang, thanks Jon! your last post made me howl

and he's dying Kim. He's not going to turn into this person that I dream of. You know, he's just him, and that is ok. Not just what it's going to be, but actually ok.

A poem is speech and act, I think. Maybe send him this, or read it to him? Nah. Sounds as if he might not be the type to get it. Too bad, if so. What he's missing.

well executed
after reading your comment about your bio dad
the intensity of the read magnified
wow

Complicated relationships.
I like the way you think, I love the way you write. ~r

and who is he?

So real and true. The other day I was reading something by Simone Weil about how prisoners knock on walls between them to communicate and how our walls become connections. This made me think of it.

julie - the two stories together makes us interesting, the forlorn uncomprehending child, and the woman who walks on with a bit of a limp. I hope you keep writing poetry. Your grasp of nuance rewards me, your faithful reader. R.

You grew up.

Amen!

Nice poem. R.

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About time for another h-julie post!
“the speech winds itself around the truth
caresses it, fondles it, placates it”
This is alas exactly what Speech does, and why it was evolved. To endlessly asymptotically chase the Truth of the Matter…….

“should he answer for my dreams?
for my wishes?”
YES! BUT..YOU ARE CORRECT:
“ for what I think he should be, how he should act, what he should think and do
I don't think so”
THERE U GO!

Good words. I, personally, can't see them as relating to a father. Or, rather, they make me uncomfortable in that sense which, I guess, is what a good piece of writing should do.

I could tell it was your Dad.

I love the idea of the conflict between our plans and desires for Dad and Dad's own plans and desires.

Zumapick!

Very much liked the line that begins "the random chattering of voices....".

Well, all of it, really.

It would be wonderful if they could answer even just a few of those dreams of a little girl who wants a Dad to be, needs a Dad to be....even a couple, just to be able to say, "My dad did/was this way 'just' for me, just for what I needed.
Then she just might grow up and have even the tiniest sense of what to look for in a mature grownup of a man/woman, herself.

Ahhhh, the dynamics between a father and a daughter. So tough to get over unless one's mature enough. You seem to already have yours pretty well sorted out. Good for you, dearie.
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Fathers do what they do and good fathers try to do the best they can with what they know.

Trying to find the way through fathers can be long and difficult but I love how you honor your dad who raised you..

The feeling of being on your dad's lap, where everything is safe and alright .... Way to tap into it, Julie.

Rated!

Thanks Chickiemaaan! Yeah, I don't think this is getting read to my dad. He'd get it, but would probably end up feeling like he'd somehow let me down, and really, that is not what I want him to feel. I think my poetry is just negative by nature. Even when I am feeling upbeat.

Chuck- Hey, Thanks!

(((Joan)))

C&V, I will have to go look that up, it sounds interesting!!

Thanks Pandora

Green, in millimeters over decades. jesus, does it ever culminate into anything?

(((Pensive)))

Thanks Chiller!

Thanks Algis!

James, go over to PW's now- she's ousting the boys.(and speech is neutral chaotic..not that I'm not obsessed with it, but it can be a toxic thing)

Phyllis, not sure what to say to that. Sorry my family dynamic make you uncomfortable is what I want to say, but that just sounds flippant when I reread it, and that's not how I mean it. If that makes any sense?

(((Zuma)))

Thanks Boanerges :) that's my favorite line too. I have no clue what it means, since I've never heard a party line, but it came up, so it came out

JT, my best friend has that relationship with her father. It was good for modelling, and she's found consistently good men. *shrug* I don't long to be her though...even though I can see the benefit.

Thanks PW!! going back over to your place as soon as I finish replies.

Jmac, they do. That is the absolute truth of it. One that often gets overlooked in the relentless need.

LL2, my dad who raised me rocks the house. He's got flaws, but he certainly does wear the white hat in my life. You guys that take over after a parent has walked away are so loved by us. I know you 'know' that, but really you have no idea how much.

Stim :) thankies!

Hey Tinkertot! he lives!

i'm with rita... i love that twist. it kept me interested right till the end. go you!

The "shifting" is here, making the closing, a sense before print.

I always felt cheated on some little girl level.

Thanks Lorianne!! :D

Scup, I'm always tickled when I see you've read a post.

Asia, really?! How so for you?

I love the feeling of this, the acceptance and generosity. It could sound like pain, but it doesn't. At least, not to me. It has the sound of sad love, and peace. So different from the tantrums of the wounded that we're treated to so often. Something written by a grown-up. As always, I love the economy of your language and images.

[r] poignant! best, libby

(((Sirenita))) Been processing this since I was 21. I think outlook has much to do with stage....but that's a guess. Nope, no sadness left aboard. My poor dad :/ I've made sure he was processing it with me. I still need to call him for Father's Day. :p he's gonna be pissed it took me this long, which just makes me want to put it off more. We cope with each other.

Thanks Libby!

**should he answer for my dreams?
for my wishes? for what I think he should be, how he should act, what he should think and do

I don't think so**

It takes most more than a lifetime to understand this..

Of course understanding and implementation are two different things.

Rated for.. and we're all only human.