Rumor has it that New York City prosecutors are preparing to drop the charges against the now-former IMF chief, Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Last week, officials went to court to loosen the tight restrictions placed on Strauss-Kahn during a bail proceeding last month, citing new evidence that his accuser, a maid at the luxury Sofitel Hotel in Manhattan, had lied about several aspects of her life and her movements on the day of the alleged rape. While all the physical evidence points to a sexual encounter of some kind, it has devolved into the type of “he-said-she-said” case that is unlikely to stand up in court.
The outcry has been predictable: The rich get no respect! Americans are prudes! Immigrant women lie about rape to stay in the country! She’s a hooker! Why, we should give poor ole DSK the French presidency just to make up for all his suffering
Behind the hyperbole, commentators seem determined to hold this up as a grand vindication of the American system of law, where all who stand accused, be they rich or poor, black or white, are treated as equals by blindfolded Lady Justice, and where the government stands ever-ready to admit they made a mistake. Says William Saletin at Slate.com:
“The unraveling of the Strauss-Kahn prosecution is a victory for justice, because investigators found ways to check the accuser's credibility. Other accusers will pass such tests. This one didn't. What the collapse of this case proves is that it's possible to distinguish true rape accusations from false ones—and that the government, having staked its reputation on an accuser's credibility, diligently investigated her and disclosed her lies. The system worked.”
Horsefeathers.
The collapse of this case does not prove it’s possible to “distinguish true rape accusations from false ones.” Thus far, all that has been proven here is that the maid was not as Ivory-pure as she initially appeared. Lying on an asylum application and scamming the system by claiming a fictitious second child does not mean she was not raped. Having five cell phones does not mean she was not raped. Having $100,000 in a bank account does not mean she was not raped. Frankly, even if the prostitution rumors are proven true, that does not mean she was not raped. It means the government no longer thinks it can prove it.
While the District Attorney does deserve some props for investigating the maid’s background and releasing the findings, let’s not go giving Cyrus Vance Jr. his Nobel Peace Prize quite yet. Justice is not income-blind. Dominique Strauss-Kahn, whose wife Anne Sinclair has an estimate net worth of $200 million, had his own investigators spread from the US to Guinea digging up dirt on his accuser. These facts and allegations were going to come out at some point. It was far better for the DA to rip the band-aid off, before it was ripped off for them. Strauss-Kahn is not the only one with a political future to ponder.
The story that is concretizing in the mind of the public is, if you’ll pardon the expression, DSK’s public-relations wet dream: that this grifter, this hooker, knew full well that he was rich and famous and in his room that afternoon, and that she got mad when he refused to pay her for the quickie blow-job she delivered as part of her expanded turndown service. So she cried rape in an attempt to blackmail him.
Perhaps. But it makes very little sense that a professional prostitute working the $3000-a-night hotel circuit would risk that kind of exposure. Was she such a fabulous hooker that none of her wealthy tricks ever refused to pay her? With $100k in the bank, was she really so hard up for money that she wouldn’t just call it a write-off and move on to the next suite? And if this was a premeditated attempt to blackmail, why would she cry rape within moments of the event? Why not just spit some DSK seed into a hankie and then threaten to call the cops—or the media—if he didn’t pay up?
This is a woman who apparently spent most of her adult life flying below the radar, deftly playing the system and appearing to most of the world as a semi-impoverished, hard-working, devout Muslim widow and mother. Maybe this is giving her too much credit, but this personal history indicates that she’s at least smart enough to realize that once the police and the lawyers and the press get involved, she would no longer control her story.
When and if the facts are sorted out from the innuendo, assuming that ever happens, it will probably turn out that the maid is a front for drug smugglers operating out of her native Guinea, laundering money through her accounts and acting as a source for secure cell phones. And it is entirely likely that, as a side business, she polished more than the hotel’s big brass bed-knobs. Her alleged statement to her incarcerated male friend, along the lines of, 'Don't worry, this guy has a lot of money...I know what I'm doing," might be damning. Or it might be nothing more than an attempt to placade an unsavory character displeased by her sudden catapult into the arms of the police.
An actual “victory for justice” would be establishing the truth of what happened in Suite 2806 of the Sofitel Hotel on the afternoon of May 14 and bringing any alleged crimes before a jury. Even if we take Strauss-Kahn at his word, he committed a crime that day: he solicited a prostitute.
We all know how this is likely to play out now: the indictment will be quietly dropped, Dominique Strauss-Kahn will pick up his life and perhaps even go on to run for the presidency of France, and the maid will be deported back in Guinea by the end of the year.
Maybe this is what justice looks like, but all in all, it seems like a very dissatisfying end to the story. Then again, it was never much of a fairy tale.


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Granted, the issue of her past or even current shady activities does not prove that a crime wasn't commited. I still believe anything is possible and we will never know for sure what happened. However, consider this...you made the point that she "reported the crime within minutes." actually that turned out to be false. She cleaned another room, then returned to DSK's room to tidy up, all before reporting the crime. Now I've never cleaned a hotel room, but I'm guessing it takes more than just a few minutes.
DSK is still a scoundrel, or at least he seems so from what we've *heard* about him, and I'm hardly on his defense team, but this woman looks to me (based on what I've read which could turn out to be wrong) like an opportunist looking to cash in.
"An actual “victory for justice” would be establishing the truth of what happened in Suite 2806 of the Sofitel Hotel on the afternoon of May 14." How do they do that? The only people who know what happened in that room are DSK and the maid. If he claims that the encounter was consensual (whether paid or not), the only way a juror can believe otherwise is if the accuser is believable, and in this case, she has a history of lying. It's easy to say, bring the facts before a jury, but prosecutors are loathe to waste time and taxpayers' money on a case they believe is a sure loser.
doing ... does not mean she was not raped.
Right my dear. Absolutely right.
Also …
being rich does not mean you like raping.
having a rich woman does not mean you are a criminal.
So tell me, how is it that you know he's evil and she's the victim?
And tell me this, miss.
You have a nice neighbor. Kind, okay with his and your kids.
There come the police. With a black woman that’s connected with drugs.
She says of your neighbor: he raped me.
Your sweet neighbor denies.
Tell me miss - although I know for sure what you will do, (sorry, my prejudice) - tell me …
So you are going to tell the police: take that man away. And now!!!
Please, let me know what you are going to tell the police.
And please, let me also know what you are going to tell the wife of your neighbor.
HANG 'EM HIGH!!!!!!!!!
Your logic is amazing.
First, on another post (bluestocking babe) you said
"I guess to sum up my point in one sentence: We shouldn't have rushed to convict him before and we shouldn't rush to acquit him now."
I didn't understand that.
Now you say
"If he claims that the encounter was consensual (whether paid or not), the only way a juror can believe otherwise is if the accuser is believable"
So, we did rush to convict him, but please, easy. Because, if he's not guilty let's not rush to say so, we could make another mistake.
And now: if she's believable everything is okay!
Oh yeah, and what if he's believable?
Do you see my problem, with you as a prosecutor or as the judge?
Also, I do not like to see you as a member of the jury!
Perhaps it is well written.
I do not want to spoil your party.
I do not think it is thougthful
Well, a matter of taste, I guess.
But telle me Matt, an easy question:
what does factual exactly mean?
We have no idea what happened in that room. We probably never will. Maybe he raped her, maybe they had a consensual encounter. But as more and more information about the victim's life is revealed, it's becoming more apparent to the prosecution that they have a losing case on their hands. If they drop the charges, as most people now think they will, it doesn't prove he was innocent, only that they can't convict him.
I see your practical point. And if I don't like it, I have to agree.
As a matter of fact, I agree with you: wasting time and money doesn't help justice in the end.
But you didn't answer my question.
We rushed to convict him.
If that was wrong (I think it was) then we should the more rush to acquit him!
A juror can only believe an accusor who is believable if the accused is not believable.
And I think the essence of a juror is not to "think" about credibility but to mind the facts!
I was careless in using the word "acquit." What I meant was that we (wrongly) rushed to say he was guilty of the crime without knowing all the facts. Now that some other facts have been revealed, we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that he didn't commit the crime either. We should be reminding ourselves that criminal cases are often complex, with evidence that doesn't always fit together like a glove. Jumping to conclusions with incomplete facts is human - I certainly do it - but we should be careful and keep an open mind.
Id say your guilty yourself of some serious handwaving. "....citing new evidence that his accuser, a maid at the luxury Sofitel Hotel in Manhattan, had lied about several aspects of her life and her movements on the day of the alleged rape. "
look, the maid specifically, acc to prosecution as I understand it, **lied about being gangraped on her asylum application**. she admitted that she lied. so she didnt just LIE, she SPECIFICALLY LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED in the past. does that sound just a little )( teeny bit relevant to you? doesnt it sound a little, to use a melodramatic but apropos term-- damning to you?
no, it doesnt, but you omit the kind of critical factoid, to a degree of obliviousness that would make someone reasonable shudder-- SHE SPECIFICALLY LIED ABOUT BEING GANG-RAPED.
so were you aware of that? is something being swept under the rug here?
I guess just as we have the misogynist rapist-apologists coming out of the woodwork during the initial accusations, we now have the feminist, manhating false-rape-accusation apologists coming out of the woodwork.
the world is perfectly symmetrical sometimes.
as they say--
karma is a b****!!
however, apparently, in the prior case, it was an ACT. coldly calculated to achieve a desired effect-- entry into the US via breaking our laws.
this is not mere garden variety lying we are talking about. if you can lie with the whole ACT down, frankly I would say that veers into near-sociopathic territory. its certainly a characteristic of pathological liars.
"I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING."
she conned the US by getting in on a faked, literally "sexed-up" asylum application. by accusing nameless/faceless military soldiers of gang rape.
its what you might have called the BIG SCORE.
so lets see, framing a high-up muckety-muck of rape. sounds like a sort of advanced degree to me. a little upping of the stakes in the same poker game.....
ah, but in poker, one has to truly master the Bluff....
No, jumping to conclusions isn't human at all.
Only when forced so he makes decisions. Elections for example.
And in lab-situations, when asked to push one or another button. And the outcome of the test depends heavily on the input you give the person.
Actually, there's a special kind of couch potatoes with which you can fill e few big cities, east and west. They have three couches: one at home, one in the car, and one in office!
From your posts I do not know you either as one who leaps before he thinks or as a couch potato.
Perhaps you can answer these two questions.
1. You have two possibilities - he is guilty or she is lying (actually there's more between earth and heaven). Apparently, there’s something that makes you "jump" to a position.
What is it? And why that particular position. (Actually, it’s none of my business, but it’s because you’re here that makes me” jumping” to you.)
2. A police car is stopping in front of your neighbor's house, a black girl points at your neighbor and says: that was the man who raped me. Now I know you are a reasonable man. But how many Americans would let the cop go away with their neighbor?
You are not completely blind here, there's some indicating, although confusing data: the number of American persons who want still to see the birth certificate of their president exceeds the number of those who believe Strauss-Kahn.
Perhaps that should be a good question to answer: what is it that mankind makes thinking that man is reason-driven and animals are instinct-driven?
No, I am not confused (well, your answer is confusing to me).
I asked you the meaning of factual.
I know only 3 facts:
- they had sexual intercourse
- he says it was consensual
-she says it was rape
The report that he is a rich man doesn’t make him guilty, whatever society thinks.
The report that she is a lying immigrant doesn't make her a liar, whatever the opinion of society.
Perhaps you can also tell me what societal justice is, or the societal view on justice.
And in answering that question you should remember that justice only exists thanks to written rules - also precedents, the history of leading cases, are written down!
Otherwise it’s something different from justice (by definition).
And remember also: something is not justified because someone thinks it’s justice.
Of course, one positive point - that would bring down the criminal stats and free money and time to have a thorough investigation of the case Strauss-Kahn.
But I haven't seen the answer to the question: Why did DSK rush off to the airport to get back to France (like a rat from a sinking ship) and leave his cell phone, if the sex was consented; this behaviour shows guilt. Many times the reverse logic questions are mor important than the logical ones
Because the DA's office answers to the public they are often willing to try cases in which the evidence is weak. However, they cannot put someone on the witness stand that they believe is lying. If she gave contradictory accounts of what happened they have a reason to believe she is lying.
Yes, you are right, you can have feelings of justice/injustice at diverse levels. By the way, I love the term "poetic justice". But please, buy it in the bookshop, and not at the newspaper stand. And certainly not at the telly market.
I do not want to appear as a bureaucrat - I sometimes feel justice is not done after a verdict is spoken.
But the law is our social contract. As an anarchist I believe that people can live together without a lot of these rules. (Driving on the right side of the road is a very practical rule.) Being practical, I cannot deny that we have wicked people around us.
But declaring someone guilty before the law has spoken should be based on some logic, some internal coherent rules.
Now it seems that there are priorities
When we see a hotel maid, especially black and with a fugitive status we sniff at her. That's no company for us. So if it is about robbery of a wallet ... etc. we know to point a finger.
Who cares about a hotel maid, certainly when she also ...
Now a rich man has another priority. If something happens and a rich man is involved, we know immediately ...
These days it appears that a lot of people care about a black lady with an immigrant status, who also gives a hand in the criminal circuit. I wonder …
So, our priority-instincts are at work here. That's what I do not like.
And these people themselves say to me: you are right - by not answering my questions when I ask for some details of their opinion, for some consequences.
We all have no idea who is right or wrong here but if she was willing to accuse someone falsely in the past-- her credibility must suffer. It is really impossible to arrive at any just conclusions, at this stage, and if one has witnessed the system up close-- it's all a huge crock, and justice becomes a very complex and very hard to explain concept.
If you live the life of a low-life, then you are not going to be believed. And, it all makes sense. Heck, this woman had the entire system supporting her. The IMF chief was behind bars, having been yanked off a plane. Can't get much more support than that. But, due to her own fault, and no one else', she created a situation for herself where she has no credibility. Dropping this case would be the right thing to do. There was no way the state was going to win a conviction. The taxpayers only have so much money, so don't waste it on case where the victim isn't willing to help their own case.