I am calling for a new feminist movement and men, we really need your help.
Rush Limbaugh’s comments from last week still has people outraged. Though there are many men who despise him and his views on women, the fact that he is so forthright in the public eye suggests that many more of them are in agreement with his opinions. It is men like Rush who have given “feminists” a bad name and created the stereotype: that feminists are angry “man-haters.” Though he would probably deny it, it is obvious by his loose usage of the term “feminazi” that he has helped to perpetuate this hateful and outrageous stereotype. As a feminist, I have never been a man-hater nor met any feminists who were. It has been made clear by the public’s reaction to Rush’s recent rhetoric that both men and women are fed up with these unfair gender stereotypes and shamefully ignorant accusations.
I used to wonder how the public’s perception of the word “feminist” became so skewed from it’s actual definition “a person who advocates equal rights for women.” Instead of being viewed as courageous, people who dare to challenge the status quo in a country where women are still paid 20% less than what men earn in comparable positions, we are viewed with public disdain and branded man-hating rabble-rousers merely for daring to vocalize these glaring gender inequalities. Publicly, those with clout, like Rush, talk about and regard us with the same type of annoyance and irritation that they also reserve for the brave participants of the Occupy Movement.
I see myself as a feminist, but not in the lens of this stereotype. In fact, the idea of the “man-hating feminist” disgusts me and I view it as a caricature on par with that of the distasteful “woman-hating mysogynist.” For years, Rush and the like have perpetuated these stereotypes and lies about women through hate speech and bullying. Treating us disrespectfully and regarding us as ignorant was not enough for Rush. To really get his point across, he had to call us names like “sluts” and “prostitutes.”
Now here is the clincher: the feminist movement began as a movement to achieve equality, but somewhere along the line, men like Rush have made enough noise and mongered so much fear that they easily bought and sold their followers and constituents the ideology that feminists were not in fact striving for equality, but instead seeking female dominance and superiority. And with this idea, Rush has stirred up enough hate and fear in men that has allowed him to bank on and perpetuate this fallacy for far too long.
Feminists are not stupid or ignorant. We have never striven for dominance or superiority. We have only sought one thing and one thing only: equality. We understand that taking a stance of superiority and dominance over a demographic of individuals, as Rush has done, does not make you look strong, in fact, it does quite the opposite: it makes you look weak.
Rush has been stoking these dangerous flames for too long and this time he might’ve caused a backdraft. More now than ever, we need men to unsubscribe to this ignorant fear that equates equality for women with a loss of power for men. This is a false assumption. The truth of the matter is that feminists have been touted to have these man-hating qualities by people like Rush so insecure pig-headed men like him in this country can obtain and maintain some sort of male dominance and superiority over women. They have used reverse psychology on the nation to make people believe that all this time they have been victimized by “the feminazi man haters.”
The truth is that feminists have always respected men and treated them with the same dignity we expect to be treated with. Feminists have never looked down on the general male population from a position of hate, the way men like Rush have looked down on us from and publicly stated it. We try to lead by example, but with people like Rush continuously spitting in our faces, it is difficult. What we need now more than ever are strong women and men who support equality amongst the sexes. Now is the time to vocalize our disgust for men like Rush and the hate speech they spew and perpetuate.
I am calling for a new feminist movement today, a movement where men and women help one another to achieve the respect and equality we all deserve. We must retire those ridiculous and hateful stereotypes once and for all. What do you think? Will you work with me to achieve this? What can you do to help?


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so many darn dickheads out there.. They would throw the movement down in two seconds... blahhhhhh
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Like any social movement, feminism needs to evolve and change as socio-economic realities are always in flux. I would love to see the feminist movement go into high gear. So count me in.
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Bob- Great comment- thank-you for sharing! So glad you're in!
Martha- so true about the word "liberal" somehow that got tainted too
BOKO Thank-you for such an interesting comment! So much to think about here
Jennifer Thank-you
Vzn- WOW- so true! You devil's advocate you! But you are right! However, I do think that the feminist issue is important and needed to be addressed for a long time coming in addition to the 99% vs 1% debacle
Remember Phyllis Schaffley? I believe that's how her name was spelled. She suddenly appeared about the same time as feminism, in the 70's, and proclaimed that the reforms and ideas of feminism were absolutely horrible. And many of us remember Anita Bryant, who as a right-wing Christian proclaimed the evil of both feminism and gay liberation.
I vaguely remember an article written in Ms. Magazine that tried to pidgeonhole women who spoke against feminism or criticized it as women who had certain kinds of power, which they would lose if feminism became a reality. I thought then, and think now, that this was a half-truth. I believe those women were actually feminists, but they wanted to stop all other feminists.
Final thought this time; the intellectuals who led the feminist movement in the 70's were primarily Manhattan/New York/Eastern Seaboard intellectuals who didn't really know the condition of real women. Gloria Steinem never spent time in a laundramat in Rolla, Missouri or Newark, Ohio. She and her companions didn't know and couldn't understand what middle and lower class women, married and single, had to face. I think those women in the present day understand feminism as it applies in the real world, and if a new feminism came from them and not from Starbucks addicts, it might succeed where 70's feminism failed.
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How many sexes are there?
I think I know how the public's perception of the word "feminist" became so skewed. As a self-identified feminist, I have gotten an earful many times and became disillusioned with the movement. Here are 3 reasons, off the top of my head.
1. I have indeed, met "man-hating" feminists. One of them verbally attacked me for marrying a man--and he dared identify with the feminist movement.
2. The angry rhetoric against "housewives" who stayed home to raise children rather than go to "work".
3. The fact that the feminism in the 70's and 80's was a white, liberal, educated woman's movement that ignored the black and Latina women those same white women were hiring to watch their kids so that they could go to NOW meetings.
I am a white, liberal, educated woman. I happen to agree with you that we need a new feminist movement--we can start with those of us who never left--but this time, we need to find ways to avoid the exclusionary attitude and language that gave the movment a bad rap.
neutron- your comment is very faceted and interesting
Barbara- I am not sure what you are referring to
Thanks ALGIS XO
John- Thanks! Stay tuned!
Thanks Rita
David- more should think like you!
Maureen I really like your idea of picking a new word- any suggestions?
Tandy- Bingo- no excluding anyone- agreed
minis thanks
oryoki Thank-you
Look at the corporatization and militarization happening. Empathy and humanitarianism are not respected by collective society which is why the American citizenry is so obscenely dense about the EVIL of war.
Even talk of increasing child labor shows how anti-humanity things have gotten. And wanting to rob women of all their physical options and rights. The Talibanization of women as the US pretends to fight fundamentalism they have their own Christian style regression going on for patriarchal power and control.
I had written in my lost comment about a great book by Dorothy Dinnerstein the Mermaid and the Minotaur which describes how children usually get to "know" their mother more than the fathers as people due to accessibility degrees. The father figure is more put together for identity formation for little boys from stereotypical puzzle pieces, especially those that over-praise power and anger and denigrate tenderness and sadness. The mother figure has her issues little girls learn too but they get to see deeper dimensions of the mother as a WHOLE person (though now mothers aren't as home as much either from working) but they don't have to be different from what they see, little girls, not try to be the opposite to build an identity from, they have to emulate what they learn about being human from their mommies for their identities.
And they are more androgynistic, they know human beings have both yin and yang as part of themselves whereas boys are afraid of their yins because of their less grounded identities about being male though it seems they are steeped in identity as males the opposite is really true for those men. The more obsessed with being macho the more insecure as men trying to prove it to themselves and in fear of their own yins.
Finally, when I became a feminist in the late 60s and later moved to NYC I was stunned by the ferociously strong and loyal and inspiring bonding among gay women. If straight women could have bonded with each other with that kind of loyalty or even a fraction of it and also bonded with their gay sisters, and both groups could have fought for mutual and particular issues, we would not have such threats now to women of basic human rights and the gay movement would also not be as challenged as often.
I also think back then the leaders of the women's movement, the media darlings, got clique-y (I HATE cliques) and the whole point of the feminism paradigm is being all inclusive and cooperative and respectful to all. But with the so-called feminist leadership (power corrupts) some started to pick up their cues from the patriarchy and using their tools, and also marketing and commercialization, sabotaged the momentum of leadership and it was a shame.
You know I wish the Green Party could take over from what a liberal Dem party once did in part. Offer an umbrella structure of humanism to help organize all the wonderful interests groups that could be the humanitarian spines of the Green Party, like the anti-war people, anti-gun, single payer, women's rights advocates, gay rights advocates, pro environment people, children's rights, etc., etc. That is my personal dream. We need to ORGANIZE because the mafia one percenters destroying what so many have sacrificed so much for in our past sure are organized for evil. We gotta all organize for good and push them back.
I have a lot to say about feminism .. but that is enough for now. hope I don't lose this one. :) best, libby
You have to tell men what they will receive in return, especially young men who are scared they are being shut out by the competition with women and our shrinking job market. That is only fair.
I like what vzn, Rita and Oryoki have to say about it. I think we need a smart approach but don't change the infrastructure that has already been established. Build on what we have. Education is always key.
Thank you for this insightful post! ~rated
Long answer:
All the definitions in the world won't stop feminism from being a purely female perspective.
It began with women rightfully chafing against a controlling, static social order which restricted their rights and officially recognized them as being less than men. In this it has my every sympathy and if this were some decades earlier, I would push for women's rights in person. It's a legacy that's been forcibly maintained across most human cultures, long enough that many today claim it's part of some "natural law". Who was it that said that was "nonsense on stilts"? Bentham? Probably.
The problem is that today is not decades ago. Feminism largely hasn't changed, but the world around it has. It's true that battles still have to be fought, women still face discrimination and the cultural scars left by centuries... no, millennia of inequality still need treatment. But the position of men has changed dramatically.
Only a sparse handful of men I know would claim women were inferior. Only a few Christian fundamentalists and foreigners. The lads I know are more concerned with their OWN discrimination. Our justice system won't admit it, but it presumes men guilty until proven innocent; the opposite for women. The preference for women and minorities in employment is staggering. The vast majority of teachers are women. Some claim that women are paid less than men, but where are the numbers to prove it? I can believe it, but when women on average occupy less high-paying jobs than men (the male enclave of engineering at work), plenty of guys I know are left to wonder.
I try to talk (or knock, in some cases) sense into them when I can but the number of men who've lost respect for women is rising. What they see is deception. Mind games and manipulation, saying one thing and meaning another, infidelity and insecurity. "Women don't know what they want," thrown around. Petty vengeance and pettier lives on both sides. The Old Days when civilization worked and genders had their place is like a siren call, even to the guys who should know better. Even me, at some times.
Point is, this whole male dominance that feminism stands against? I'm not feeling it, and no man I know is either. I'll not claim to know what it's like all around the country but the culture I grew up in made it clear: Men are expendable, women are not. Women are desirable, men are not. Men need to fight and work to prove they're worth keeping alive; women just need to breathe. And god help you if you raise a word about it.
I will support any philosophy that maintains equal rights, and equal accountability, for both men and women. I will openly challenge the likes of Limbaugh if necessary, and I will continue to defend dignity regardless of how the women around me behave. Some call me a sucker for that. Maybe I am. But as to the idea of women helping men... I'll believe it when I see it, and until I believe it I'm not going to support a recycled "feminism". My individual opinion may not mean much in the long run, but consider how many men might think the same way I do.
I couldn’t agree more. Actions speak louder than words. Feminists say they represent equality but every law, bill or act they support says otherwise. This is why I left the movement in the early 2000’s. Feminism is a supremacist group! Not because their critics say so but because of the things they do.
As a former NOW member and once outspoken supporter of feminism my best advice to anyone who truly believes in equality is avoid feminist groups like a plague or you will end up like me; feeling you have done by far more damage to humanity than you could ever repair. And the hate within the group is so entrenched that there is no fixing it. Why? Because the mindset of the leaders of and biggest supporter of feminism are so blindly deranged with hate; have spent so many years placing like minded haters in positions of power; that in order for you to fix it, you would have to overthrow and destroy the whole movement. The few who actually try are booted out as “women haters” or “weak women looking for (evil) men’s approval” before you can blink. Though many of those same “good” feminists are more than happy to try and continue to manipulate others who aren’t in the circle into thinking the banner of equality still flies over feminist’s head. If it ever did, it doesn’t now nor has it for a long time.
Glad to find a fellow traveler. There must be more of us out there.
R
Feminists oppose the first academic male studies program, even though there are over 600 women's studies programs -- Google "feministe male studies"
Feminists oppose first university men's center, even though most universities have a women's center -- Google "you tube men's center vote no"
Feminists support personaility suppressing drugs (Ritalin/amphetamine) to "cure" boys of their masculinity -- its at www dot dadi dot org slash ritalin.htm
Feminists oppose equal treatment of fathers in custody disputes (there are hundreds of exampls, google "shared parenting NOW" or "shared parenting glenn sacks"
Feminists support closing all women's prisons in favor of "community programmes and treatment facilities that tackle women's needs and reduce re-offending." Male criminals would still be incarcerated because, according to the feminists, "We are not arguing that men and women should be treated differently as a matter of principle; rather, it is a pragmatic suggestion." -- Google "guardian report close all women's prisons"
Feminists oppose equal access to health care products for men -- Google "obamacare sexism"
Feminists oppose givine male victims of abuse protection under the violence against women act (VAWA): -- Google "now vawa issues"
1) Equal protection under the law for all people.
2) Equal protection of government for all people.
Feminsts are against equal treatment, equal protection, and equal rights. Feminism is a supremacist discriminatory and sexist religion. Reject feminism, reject all feminists, reject calls for discrimination and dehumanization of people based on the condition of their birth.