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Lorraine Berry lives in the Fingerlakes region of New York, although it's her transplanted home. On weekends, she can be heard throughout the area, cheering on her beloved Manchester City F.C. When not writing at Does This Make Sense? or Talking Writing, she can be found hiking with her two dogs, hanging out with her two daughters, eating what her beloved Rob has cooked for her, or teaching creative writing at a small college in the area.

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OCTOBER 20, 2009 5:34PM

Maurice Sendak Tells Parents to Go to Hell

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Incensed that parents are complaining that Where the Wild Things Are is too frightening for children, Maurice Sendak responded to a reporter's query thusly:

"I would tell them to go to hell," Sendak said. And if children can't handle the story, they should "go home," he added. "Or wet your pants. Do whatever you like. But it's not a question that can be answered."

And, while his words are harsh, I think his point is valid. 

I've been thinking on this for a while now. This semester, I'm teaching a course on "writing about nature," and discovered that of the 18 suburban and urban college students in my class, only five of them have ever been camping. Even fewer of them have been in "wilderness." 

I was prompted to ask the question after reading Michael Chabon's essay Manhood for Amateurs: The Wilderness of Childhood.

He begins: When I was growing up, our house backed onto woods, a thin two-acre remnant of a once-mighty wilderness. This was in a Maryland city where the enlightened planners had provided a number of such lingering swaths of green. They were tame as can be, our woods, and yet at night they still filled with unfathomable shadows. In the winter they lay deep in snow and seemed to absorb, to swallow whole, all the ordinary noises of your body and your world. Scary things could still be imagined to take place in those woods. It was the place into which the bad boys fled after they egged your windows on Halloween and left your pumpkins pulped in the driveway. There were no Indians in those woods, but there had been once. We learned about them in school. Patuxent Indians, they'd been called. Swift, straight-shooting, silent as deer. Gone but for their lovely place names: Patapsco, Wicomico, Patuxent.

For Chabon, something has been lost for our children. We've stripped them of the right to wander, to explore, to get themselves into scrapes and figure out how to get themselves out, to climb trees, to get dirty. 

Why? 

Chabon says it's irrational fear. Oh, I can hear some of you thinking: Do you know how many children are abducted and killed by strangers each year?

If one were to rely solely on cable news, I would imagine the answer to be in the hundreds, if not thousands. 

 But the primary reason for this curtailing of adventure, this closing off of Wilderness, is the increased anxiety we all feel over the abduction of children by strangers; we fear the wolves in the Wilderness. This is not a rational fear; in 1999, for example, according to the Justice Department, the number of abductions by strangers in the United States was 115. Such crimes have always occurred at about the same rate; being a child is exactly no more and no less dangerous than it ever was. What has changed is that the horror is so much better known. At times it seems as if parents are being deliberately encouraged to fear for their children's lives, though only a cynic would suggest there was money to be made in doing so.

And yet, even when my children were small, I was afraid to let them out of my sight, afraid that wandering away might mean that they would be carried off, never to be seen again. Certainly there were enough examples of it on television. I still remember the chilling store film of the two boys who took a four-year old out of a store, cruelly beat him to death, and left him on railroad tracks. 

Something changed for me, though, when I began to realize that my children were not going to drown, get kidnapped, hit by a car, struck by lightning, just because they were out playing with their friends. For me, I think it was about the same time I stopped being an active addict, when I gave up the idea that I was in control of everything. I could not control what was going to happen to my children. Oh yes, of course, I could take care of them, but smothering them was not the way to teach them to live.

When I was a child, the only thing forbidden to me was playing in the creek. I never did understand that stricture. The only thing I knew was that if I came home with wet pants from playing in its filthy waters, I was guaranteed a spanking. But climbing trees? No problem.  Running around the woods with my friends? No problem. Walking to a friend's house? Expected--there would be no car rides offered. "Go out and get some fresh air," I was told, again and again. 

But now, as Chabon points out, we make playdates for our kids. We structure their time. We give them cell phones so we always know where they are. 

The rule in my house was, be home in time for dinner. And, after dinner, be home by dark. 

I wonder what we would think of parents who gave their children these freedoms now? 

The effect of these strictures have been brought home to me by the reading of my students' essays. They all talk about parents who were frantic for their safety. They couldn't be off their block. They couldn't leave their driveways. If they went to a friend's house, they had to be driven, and their parents had to know where they were at all times. 

Chabon says that children lack imagination as a consequence of that. And with that, I disagree. If students lack intellectual curiosity (and a percentage of them do), first of all, I would argue that it has always been thus. Some people are just not curious about the world. But my students wrote about the various ways they had of creating fantasy worlds where they could be safe and wander freely. Imaginary friends. Playing with action figures and dolls and creating games. Reading. Always reading. 

Truthfully, reading was my escape, too. I loved a rainy day when I was not expected to be out with my friends. What could be better than to be engrossed in a book, hot chocolate by my side, legs curled up underneath me, blanket on my lap? 

And I read books that frightened me. The only book that my parents ever took away from me was The Godfather. I was 12. They thought it age-inappropriate, and it was the only book I ever remember them censoring. The lesson I took from that? If I was going to read something that risque, better to do it secretly. My bet is that most kids have learned that one on their own. 

So, when parental fears interfere in the creation of imagination, it's no wonder that writers like Sendak, who, like Roald Dahl knew that being a child was not all butterflies and buttercups, want to tell parents to go to hell. 

The thing that frightened me about Where the Wild Things Are when I was a child was not the adventure. It was the initial getting into trouble. I hated being yelled at. Hated being sent to my room. Hated the feeling of having disappointed my parents. 

But, once I had gotten over that feeling, then I loved being in my room. My room was where my books were. And my books were freedom. 

Children are not stupid. Yes, of course, parents should make decisions about whether their child is too sensitive for the material in Where the Wild Things Are. But, like parents who, because they are offended by something their kid is reading and therefore want to ban the book from the school library, parents who want to stop other children from seeing a movie because they think it's too scary need to quit interfering. 

Children's imaginations can conjure up much more frightening things than a land of beasts. To read my students' essays is to learn that some of them, banned from leaving their own yards, had monsters at home to contend with. Who needs a stranger to hurt you when your parent is a monster? 

Oh? And the idea for the wild things? Straight out of Sendak's childhood. As he explains: 

He based the monsters of Where the Wild Things Are on relatives who visited his family home as a child, speaking practically no English. "They grabbed you and twisted your face, and they thought that was an affectionate thing to do," he said. "And I knew that my mother's cooking was pretty terrible, and it also took forever, and there was every possibility that they would eat me, or my sister or my brother. We really had a wicked fantasy that they were capable of that. We couldn't taste any worse than what she was preparing. So that's who the Wild Things are. They're foreigners, lost in America, without a language. And children who are petrified of them, and don't understand that these gestures, these twistings of flesh, are meant to be affectionate."

Kids sort things out. We can help them make good decisions. We can give them good boundaries. But can we please stop robbing them of that delicious ability to wander off, responsibility-free, for a few hours, to see what there is to see? 

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Well, this is typical. Don't write anything for weeks, and then have logorrhea.
It always does seem to be feast or famine, doesn't it? ;)

I like this post a lot, FLW. I don't have children yet, so I tend to avoid the heck out of these wars, but it has always seemed to me that wrapping kids in cotton is horrendously unhealthy.

Learning to pick yourself up after a fall is the best way to get up, after all. And lord knows I picked myself up a lot after falling off my horse, bareback in the back pasture.
Lorraine, this is a brilliant post. Brilliant! Wild Things is scary. I wouldn't take a child under 5 years old to go see it, but kids these days watch much scarier things than I did.

I agree that parents coddle their children too much. I thought my parents were overly protective. We had to wear shoes outside and I, as a girl, wasn't allowed to go anywhere without my brothers. I also understand parents' fears. The world seems so scary, especially when experienced through the TV. So teach your kids the skills they'll need to make wise and safe decisions.

Dragons will always exist. Kids need to be given swords and magic spells to defeat them.
Lorraine, you are so brilliant. I had never heard Sendak's explanation of the origin of the book.

If people think Where the Wild Things is scary, they should avoid forever Sendak's later Outside Over There.
Let me add that in my experience children are generally helpful and considerate and so, so, so much better behaved than adults! If you don't believe that, just go to a children's sporting event, a softball or football or soccer game. I guarantee you'll see incredibly rude, obnoxious behavior from the adults, not the kids!!

This is why I never use the word "childish" or accuse anyone of being "childish". I think that's insulting to children who, generally speaking, are more mature than many adults.
I have never worried that my children would be abducted, and I always thought that when parents focused on this, they were doing their children and the world harm by decreasing trust, increasing suspicion. I have also never worried about physical safety--the falling out of trees, scraping knees, getting hurt thing--which paralyzes parents. And finally, neither have I worried about germs and illness the way many have.

The thing is, we all have our fears that we bring to the table, and I'd be lying if claimed that I did it right and everybody else did it wrong. My biggest fear--perhaps just as irrational as all those others--was the emotional factor, the concept of my children feeling comfortable with their peers, not feeling completely from another world. Because we live in the suburbs, there's this whole maniacal focus around sports, and it starts at around age 4. I'm talking soccer, T-ball, flag football, whatever. Then there's the music lessons and so on. What I'm getting at is that for some of us, the camping didn't happen (either at all or as much as we'd like it to have) not because we were afraid of the darkness or the wilderness or the germs but because of the time factor. Having to keep up with the Joneses is fairly time consuming, if the Joneses are on all the teams and clubs. Oh, and don't forget the Joneses' perfectly manicured yard and nicely decorated home and finished basement--those all take time and money too.

I feel like I took my family to the very edge of acceptability in this particular neighborhood, where--please don't get me wrong--the people are lovely but very, very conventional in their definitions of success. Mine were the kids who didn't watch television except for the occasional grand movie or cool nature documentary, they were the only ones conversant in Cleveland museum speak, and they could think for themselves. But you know what? They paid a price. I will never, as long as I live, forget the way my son's face shined once when his friends were talking about Willie Wonka and he assumed they were talking about the book. He could actually participate in a pop culture conversation! The way his face leapt made me sick inside and made me wonder if I hadn't exacted too steep a price for his experience of feeling alien in his culture. You need to understand that I wasn't overcontrolling or forcing the no-TV issue. It's genuinely a habit, and my kids preferred to read or make cool stuff out of household crap or whatever, so they just never got into the TV thing or the super-organized schedule thing. I made it a point to move us a little more in the direction of "conventional" as a result of the feeling I started getting that my kids weren't speaking the same language as their peers, and I think my kids have ended up with a weird balance of fitting in but being different. The point is that the fitting in part took a lot of time and prevented us from doing as much nature stuff as we probably would have if we had not joined Scouts and soccer and so forth. And Scouts? Not so much camping anymore--mainly doing stupid crafts and going to professional sports games.

FLW, apparently I caught your logorrhea--so sorry to dirty your blog with my leakage. I had no intention of going on about this, which is kind of tangential anyway. I just wanted to say that I couldn't agree with you more about the nature and making your own mistakes and so on. You can love your kids fiercely--and I will never apologize for protecting them when they really needed it and I do think people can go overboard with the "Let kids live dangerously like we did!" garbabe--but yes, you can let them live their lives with a little risk and a lot more wilderness.
And by "garbabe" I meant garbage of course. Garbabe--that would be me, somehow.
Gosh. I take the puppy for a walk and come back and there's all these comments. Wow. Okay.
I hope I didn't come across as preachy. It wasn't my intent. Shit. I've made so many mistakes with my kids, I expect they'll have their own issues to work out. But we do what we can.
I think this was really brought to the fore for me this weekend when I was at Wegman's. A woman was shopping with a baby in the cart and a toddler by her side. I actually heard her say to him, "Don't wander away from Mommy. Someone could take you." And I thought, "Jesus. That is so scary to say something like that."

I know there are reasons to protect our kids--and I do. But it's been a long time since i've heard the sound of kids playing kickball in the (residential) road, or seen a kid up a tree. And it feels like something's missing.

And lainey, I think you have your very own blog essay there, and I'd encourage you to make it one.

I need to eat something, and then i'll try to jump in and comment on what everyone else has said.
One of the reasons I love the summer months when we live at camp is for exactly the reasons you outlined - they can wander outside from dawn to dusk and I don't worry. It is so obvious how much they love the feeling of freedom. I love catching a glimpse of them tucked away in a sand dune singing to themselves or skipping down a trail alone and full of confidence. I have plenty of moments of overprotective parenting but the 3 months they spend running free at camp always make me feel like things balance out. I'm taking them to the movie this weekend, we're all really excited.
FLW, you don't sound a bit preachy. I hate when people do that, scaring their kids about people abducting them. Jesus, then when friendly sorts like myself smile and say hi to them they run for their lives. It's sick. (My own were the ones running around the grocery picking out the parallel set of items for their magical parallel lives--all candy and bakery--and then having to leave it at the check-out when I refused to buy it).
Ash--my dad always calls it "wrapping kids in cotton wool" (an English expression. Funny thing is, he thinks I'm too protective.
Gwen--parents' fears are understandable. if you believe the world you see on television, then everyone is out to get your child. And the awful thing is, sometimes kids do get kidnapped. But the chances are so slim--how crazy is it to let fear rule our lives.
Cassandra--brilliant? Moi? That's sweet of you to say. Um, not everyone thinks so. :)
Amy-yeah. Kids are pretty amazing, when we let them be.
mamoore--summers are wonderful. agreed.
Interesting. My friend saw it and her gripe was that the lead character was a self-centered little brat who left the wild things worse off than before...
Brilliant post. I don't have kids, but I was a teacher and I've studied and thought a lot about kids. You make me think of my own childhood. My mother really was scared of bad men who took children and quite phobic about germs, but she never seemed to assume that she should control us to the degree that kids are controlled. Of course, she was from another culture where you're probably lucky to survive childhood, but none of the parents in the neighborhood were that controlling, even the mean ones. I'm not sure that keeping kids so restricted lessens their imagination, but they may become more passive about using their imagination and striking out on their own. Plus there's a pleasant aura of freedom around activities that are not under the control of adults.
Apparently Maurice Sendak already read Roger Fallihee's blog on creating a website called: "youneedtogofuckyourself.com". Maurice already lives by this code.

I love that the Wild Things are based on his relatives. Heh.
You are totally on the money here. When you come back, lady, you come the hell back! Interestingly, our son never liked Sendak's books, not because they scared him but because he couldn't relate to that level of fantasy. But he sure could handle himself solo from a very young age.. and still can at 25. Bravo for this post, Lorraine.
Ha! We'd get the boot with orders to not come back until dinnertime. I see both sides of this, but not being a parent, I won't chime in.
Yep. Why do kids love Halloween so much? They like scaring themselves, they like scaring others. It helps them learn how to cope with their fears. If we protect them too much, they will never learn how to cope with real life as adults. Totally rated, great post.
Whats with all banners (your's and Trudge's) blinking on and off. I get stuck mesmerized...............very nice. Its really odd how much small things affect humans specially when young. Showed my son Jurassic Park and he is still afraid of Velocies!!! What can I say???
"free range children"
Good post! I step up on parent-zillas who try to make the rest of us revolve around their issues. There are too many children who really do need our help and attention, because they are seriously at risk.

Drama over a movie makes me wonder if those parents weren't just after attention for themselves.
Sendak has always been telling parents to go to hell; that's one of the reasons kids love his books.

This is a brilliant post, as usual, that I am sharing with every parent I know.
This has long been one of my favourite rants, I mean topics. Kids are so over-protected today for the flimsiest of reasons that it drives me wild. Maybe we were allowed to run too freely but it never did us any real harm. My mother was constantly kicking us out of the house from an early age, winter or summer, and we had plenty of company.

I rent in an affluent area, one of the richest communities in the country, where kids are driven everywhere in monster SUVs and most of them look miserable. The few (mostly teens) who do walk look far more carefree.

People are so willing to believe the worst in the face of all the evidence to the contrary. I nearly laughed out loud when a Brazilian girl openly questioned one of the helicopter moms as to why she wouldn't let her 10-year-old daughter walk to school with her after she told her that this was the first time in her life that she'd been able to go anywhere without bodyguards. She thought our neighbourhood was incredibly safe, which it is.
I participated in a discussion about this very topic a few weeks ago. I feel sorry that so many children suffer an absence of liberty in their lives and are missing out on the Tom Sawyer moments of childhood.

As a child I roamed freely through the woods and streams near home, catching crayfish, observing tadpoles, fishing for bluegills, and building forts with my buddies. My mother had a big brass bell on the front porch and when she rang it I knew it was time to come home for dinner.

It never crossed my mother's mind that I could be "abducted." Those were the days. Our elementary school teachers didn't assign more than half an hour of homework and recess was an hour long.

We skinned our knees and rode our bikes all over without (gasp) wearing helmets. I rode my horse alone, over miles of open farm land, wearing a helmet that was nothing more than fashion accessory and (gasp again) without a cell phone (weren't invented yet). Our mothers drank martinis and smoked cigarettes, even when pregnant. And they did not breastfeed us. I addressed the parents of my friends as Mr. and Mrs. and to this day I cannot use their first names. Oh, and I have never been able to call my mother by her first name. Just. Can't. Do. That.

Somehow we survived.

I don't have any children of my own so it is impossible for me to speculate how I would feel about permitting my kid to run free through the neighborhood. After all, I remember what happened to that poor little British boy too FLW, and then there was the kid in NYC, and Adam Walsh. I grew up on a steady diet of these horrors as have most of today's parents. Can't say I blame them for being afraid, but I wouldn't trade my years of being a free range kid.

P.S. Great to see you back, hope the headaches are banished. That the Wild Things were modeled after Sendak's visiting foreign relatives makes perfect sense! I loved this book as a child. Sendak has always struck me as the stepping stone to Edward Gorey.
I've just recently come across freerangekids.com. (by an older post on open salon that i'd link to if I wasn't writing this from my phone)

Yes, hell yes.

Helmets on bikes? OK, I can see that. We never had car seats and yet survived, but still got a good one for my kid.

Do I worry someone will snatch my son up? What parent doesn't? I was taught as a kid to not take candy from strangers, and not to get into cars with anyone we didn't know, and yet we walked everywhere - alone.

Parents now drive their kids door to door trick or treating (if they let them out at all), rationalizing away the fact that car accidents are the number one killer of children.

Gods help the busy body parent that tells me my son needs a helmet on his tricycle, where he's lower to the ground and more stable than when he's walking (but then they make helmets for walking now!) - "if you're so concerned about safety," I'll say, "maybe you should wear a condom when you go fuck yourself."
Loved this along and was nodding my head to your observations, along with Chabon's.

My wife's family is of the overly controlling type. Paranoid, hovering, highly regulated. I've seen them rush a baby to the ER when she ran a temperature of a couple degrees for an hour or so. I watched as a passel of her aunts leapt in alarm when a toddler wandered onto the grass of the backyard and put her hands into some dirt. I see her sister running ragged to haul the kids to one structured activity after another. They procreate at an alarming rate but eschew pets.

The result? Neuroses run rampant in her family.
ah, i wish i had logorrhea like this. i think you've written a sentiment that mirrors my own. but then again, i grew up down the street from a creek that was still populated with snakes and possums and coyotes. it's where my sister and i grew up.
I truly did not care for the film, and yes, there were kids screaming throughout.
Right on! Have those parents never read a Grimm's Fairy Tale? Speaking of frightening!
Excellent post. I watch my step grandson (is there such a thing) who is 7 never out of his mother's eye. I know she is trying to be a good mother, but when the other kids are zipping down the street on their bikes, I feel sad for him that he cannot make new friends and enjoy a bit of 'danger'.
The human being lives and grows at many different levels, throughout each individual life. In the Western intellectual tradition, Freud began our understanding of the subconscious, and Hitler and the United States demonstrated that whole nations could be monsters--some multinational corporations and capitalistic entities keep on making that totally clear. American culture runs a perverted sexuality that creates millions of monsters, many never discovered, inside "normal appearing" families. And we parents don't catch up that well to what our science and psychology keep learning about honest, communicative, and compassionate "assistive growing" of those in the stages of growth that most affect their later abilities to love and to work, to use Freud's phrase.

Furthermore, right now I don't see a lot of dramatic sacrifice to head off the colossal risks of the 21st Century, which could diminish the rest of their entire lives!

So, Daddy and Mommy, understand your own child enough to know when they ought to see "Wild Things", be more careful of when that TV is on, and look around more widely to see what black you can help scrub. When the time is right, get your parents group together, and decide how you can prepare your little ones for "Things", and then debrief it with them, several times if necessary. Hire a local child therapist to help, because (usually she) will catch stuff you miss. More connecting and sharing and learning could take place around that than you've experienced in a long time.
I see this all the time as a scout leader. As a result of over protective parenting and lack of exposure to nature, I get a lot of boys who need a lot of extra attention before they are comfortable on a simple camping trip. The good news is that if mom or dad don't pull them from the program they usually overcome their fears quickly.

If you are not familiar with it already, you may want to check out the book "Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children From Nature-Deficit Disorder" by Richard Louv.
One of the things that is a result of the overprotectiveness is that the students in my class never got a chance to mingle with anyone who didn't look like them. As a consequence, many of my suburban kids have a hard time believing that racism still exists, for example. Not only have they never spent any time in the woods by themselves, many of them report that they didn't even see a person who wasn't the same color as them until high school.
So, as a professor recently pointed out to me, white kids, for example, feel that they understand "black" culture because they listen to hip-hop music, but many of them do not have black friends.
It's a side issue, admittedly, but I see it as related to the larger issue at hand.
I really enjoyed this post. Also, it's useful to recall two important aspects of Sendak's own life--he is Jewish, and he is gay. Even, unfortunately, today, gay people face the discrimination that comes with being thought "monstrous" in some fashion. Suicide among GLBT youth is still disproportionately high. As to the first, Sendak's writing, like that of Dr. Seuss, has the specter of the ultimate monstrosity--the Holocaust--to inform it. As Walt Kelly's Pogo would say, we have met the enemy, and he is US.
Sendak, his sister Natalie and late brother Jack, are the last of the family on his father's side--his other relatives were murdered by the Nazis. "Where the Wild Things Are" derives from Holocaust stories that Sendak's parents told the children. Sometimes history is simply not suitable for human beings, far less children. But we need to remember.
Great post! Even better comment stream! It's very heartening to find so many here with good sense.

Loved the "Wet your pants! Or do whatever you like!"
I haven't seen this movie yet but I remember the pictures in that book scaring me as a child. I really want to see the movie as a way to celebrate my childhood. My children had this book when they were young and want to see it as well as a way of seeing the book come to life.

Wonderful post.
My kids, if I'd had any, would have been wrapped in cotton wool. I'm not sure I could have helped it given my own anxiety level.
That said, I remember my own thoughts and wonderings as a child. Kids are not innocent, they know the world is scary. Hell, I think it's so much scarier as a child when you don't know what is real and what isn't. All things beautiful and horrific are possible at 5 yo.
I think what is so annoying and offensive for some people, myself included, is parents who have an expectation that the rest of the world, in this case the producers of the movie, make things for their kids.

If you had an expectation that the movie was for your kid, and that expectation isn't met, its not the producer's fault. It's your own fault for having the expectation. Don't like it? Don't see it. Problem solved.
It's not about going ionto the wilderness. It's about straight parents fearful of a gay man holding sway over the ever-so-sensitive imaginations of their precious little crotchfruit toys.
Context is important here, isn't it? Our daughter spent her childhood in a clean new residential development in a small town. With woods close around. Our main worry was that she'd be hit by a car or truck.

But my granddaughter lives in a residential area of urban Atlanta, with busy two- and four-lane traffic arteries all around. A friend of our daughter's is by necessity rearing her daughter in a neighborhood where the "wild things" sell drugs and conduct gang warfare. A whole 'nother world.

In other words, just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
Excellent post! As a teacher, I am constantly wishing parents would trust their children, engage the culture, and talk to them about their fears. Just last week I had to explain to a group of parents that Facebook is not the denizen of murderous child rapists. Sigh.
Excellent post! As a teacher, I am constantly wishing parents would trust their children, engage their culture, and talk to them about their fears. Just last week I had to explain to a group of parents that Facebook is not the denizen of murderous child rapists. Sigh.
I haven't seen the film, but I always thought the book was empowering, not scary, when I read it for my kids. The child controls all the wild things, and then chooses to come home, "where someone loved him best of all". I loved that. What's scary?
I love so much about this post I wouldn't know where to start. I've written about the helicopter parents I work with and the damage they are unintentionally causing...one of my fondest memories is getting on a train in Connecticut and going into New York City for the day with my two girlfriends. We had a great day exploring the city, returning home, all complete with stares from some perverted old man. No cell phones, no checking in with parents. And the best part of the story, we were in 7th grade. I love Sendak and his go to hell message to parents. Great post.
I guess I don't quite understand something. The article begins with a anecdote about how Maurice Sendak tells parents who think the new movie he worked on is too scary for kids should go to hell. It then goes on to talk about the perils of helicopter parenting and how we're too protective of our kids. I don't understand how parents not letting their kids see a two hour movie somehow translates to them being too over protective. I mean, it is only a movie after all. Aren't parents supposed to judge this kind of thing? Isn't that what we want parents to do, take responsibility for what their children are exposed to?
I had many freedoms when I was growing up. I played in parks and woods. I didn't have to be tracked all the time. I know the benefits of respecting children's autonomy. But there were still movies that I probably shouldn't have seen when I was young. Perhaps movies themselves are too much for kids and they should be seeing less of them. Perhaps making kids sit there for two hours to absorb what adults think they should see isn't entirely healthy. How prevalent were movies when Maurice Sendak was a child compared to now? "Where The Wild Things Are" is being released at the same time as "Up", "Ice Age", "Harry Potter", "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs" and others. Should parents go to hell if they think these movies are too scary for their children? Exactly how important does he think it is for children to see his movie? I'd rather my kids play in the park.
I liked reading "Where The Wild Things Are", both when I was young and also when reading it to my kids. I have no desire to see the movie. My kids do. I'll let their mother take them. But seriously, "go to hell"? It's just a movie.
Well being a parent of 3 grown children my perspective has changed. I am also a college teacher in a very large urban setting. I grew up much like Chabon with woods and trees and outdoor skating and all kinds of freedom. I raised my kids in a safe, suburban neighborhood with the same kinds of amenities. I wanted them to have something close to what I had, altho I was a single parent and had a lot less money than my parents had. However, now that I am 60 and at the other end of life, I have to admit that encouraging our children to thumb their noses at parents and parenting has produced a really lopsided situation where grown parents are placating contemptuous children who have no respect for them. In my day we didn't dare to say and do the things to our parents that our children do and say. I think there needs to be a middle ground. I think the film does not do justice to the book, which I read to my own children. I think Sendak, as old as he is, still has problems with authority. I am not sure what the solution is!
It's so inetersting that you pointed out your feelings about being sent to your room as a kid. Me too. And exactly why that's my favorite punishment. I want them to realize that they are in trouble, but at the same time i want them to be able to find that peace (like you and I did) in thier own world ... in the actual space, in their imaginations, and in private. Imagination play is the very best gift of childhood.
The kids growing up in urban environments are not leading the sheltered lives that suburban, even gated community, kids are. That having been said, one of the most sensible essays in my class was written by a kid who grew up in Harlem. She knew where she could go and where she could not. Her mother gave her boundaries, and then trusted her to go where those boundaries were. The beautiful thing was, she was allowed to wander, also, so she got to see parts of the city that her mother had deemed safe.
So, while I sympathize with the idea that roads are dangerous, you can teach your kids how to cross roads. Seriously. Obviously not toddlers--but common sense says that older kids eventually have to learn how to cross a road by themselves.
As to the paranoia that everyone one in your neighborhood is a meth dealer or has bodies buried in the backyard, may I suggest you stop watching television and get out of the house more.
And I didn't say that parents couldn't make decisions not to take their kids to Where the Wild Things Are. What I said is that parents who try to prevent other kids (not their own) from seeing the movie are similar to those who want to ban books because they won't let their own kids read them.
Some of the most frightening books I read as a kid were Roald Dahl. James and the Giant Peach is both frightening and exhilarating. I loved the adventure stories of Enid Blyton, where kids solved mysteries. I loved Judy Blume's reality books, which showed me I wasn't the only girl who wished she'd hurry up and get her period.

Cable news and television shows lead us to believe that the world is ten times worse than it actually is. And yes. Tragedies happen. But even here, when 10 years ago, two teenage girls were murdered, they were taken right from their own homes. And you tell me, how is any parent supposed to protect a child from that kind of lightning strike?
Great, great post. Wish I had more time to comment but as usual, your fans are saying everything better than I could anyway. I will say one thing: Grimm's Fairy Tales? eg. Hansel and Gretel (lady who catches and eats children in the woods??) to name one? I loved those as a kid and in fact, they're pretty grimm (er, grim). The thrill of those was one of the things that got me into reading as a kid.

But why read, when you can rent "Shrek"?
What I said is that parents who try to prevent other kids (not their own) from seeing the movie are similar to those who want to ban books because they won't let their own kids read them.

What parents are those? Because I haven't heard anyone calling for the movie to be banned or for families to boycott it. Sendak was a dick for answering the way he did. Antagonistic for no good reason. Some kids can handle scary movies and others can't. Just because he was fine watching scary movies as a child doesn't mean that all kids will be okay. It's absolutely a parent's responsibility to know what their kids can handle and choose films accordingly.
Today even if you wanted to it would be difficult to censor what a child sees. A majority of children now have their own laptops (at least in our neighbourhood it's 100%) as they require them for school. Once they are connected to the internet the whole world is exposed to them. We taught our kids by example. We don't swear, we drink alcoholic beverages very moderately, we read both fiction and non fiction books preferably without the "adult" language that seems to portray today's society. We watch TV very seldom and get most of our information from the net. My sons, 26 and 24 don't seem to have been harmed in any way by being free to explore the outside world. We live in a suburb of a large city but we are on the side of a 4000 foot hill and the woods are all around us including the occasional bear that likes to cross our patio while we are sitting in the sunroom. Our children have not camped out as we have never enjoyed that kind of adventure but we have a cottage on an island that has all sorts of animals visit daily so the kids have lived close to nature. I think parents that believe they can protect their kids from everything are living a dream. all they can do is prepare them for today's society.
I took my five year old to see it. She loved it. I just warned her ahead of time that there might be some scary parts and that she could sit in my lap if she was getting frightened. I thought it was an incredible film, visually stunning too. And after the film my daughter was kind of making about a big deal about how it didn't scare her. But that's her thing. I'm sure some kids are less likely to like it.

I agree with Chabon about imagination on some level. It's not that kids are lacking in it today. It's just that there is a certain kind of problem solving skill that you don't get when everything you do is directed and supervised by adults.

The world is a scary place and emotions can be scary...I personally don't think there is anything wrong with kids knowing this from an early age. Great post.
Reading this post, I felt like a child listening to adults talk about things I don't understand and really don't care about. Other than the Sendak opening and close, I don't see the point. Even after reading the comments, I still don't see the point. I read Chabon, or part of it, and still don't get it.

I assume this is something missing in me, because everybody else seems to get it. Maybe it is because I'm not a parent.

It seems like you all think of children as something to "grow" like a plant. To protect like a white carpet. Children are real people, who just don't know what you know. Children know that.

This post seems more about parents than children. Children just are. Eventually, they become. I think Sendak understands that.
One thing I forgot to say: Maurice Sendak's parents were Holocaust survivors. I heard him talk once about his grandma or pa used to tell him horrible stories each night before he went to bed. They were into the realism kind of bedtime stories, the "this world is scary" and you should know about it and we will not sugarcoat it kind of stories. He says the stories freaked him out (real stories about things that happened in concentration camps) but that he developed a deeper more profound sense of the world from them so he does not blame them for doing this. I would imagine this experience made him a very strong person. I can imagine his response to parents who are worried their kids might be a little scared seems ridiculous to him in comparison, don't you think?
Thank you for some wonderful memories.

As a child, I read (with parental permission) unexpurgated fairy tales where evil queens are put into a spike-studded barrel and rolled downhill. We tend to forget that young children are quite blood-thirsty and only see black-and-white. These stories speak to them in ways that "The Pokey Little Puppy" can't.

At the age of 12, my parents trusted me to take a Greyhound bus from eastern Indiana to the Loop in Chicago - UNESCORTED. Then I walked a few blocks to the IC train station, bought my ticket, and headed to the extreme northern suburbs. Being in pre-cellphone days, I was expected to call home from each stop.

Children can handle much more than modern parents think they can AND they crave the ability to try. I feel we cheat our children when we coddle them instead of instilling independence in them.

I want to see children enjoying their childhoods but childhood is not simply an unencumbered time of joy. It is also a time of learning, of preparing for adulthood, and there is great joy in the child who has mastered a new skill.
Thus proving the existence of creepy people ...
Wow perfect! We had a similar woods to what Chabon describes and we all--every kid in the neighborhood spent more time "down the woods" than at home. My kids have no such place. We did have a bit of a wilderness of some unbuilt lots until a couple of years ago when a development of McMansions took over. My son was lucky enough to have been able to spend time wandering "the back field" but not nearly long enough.
I think there's something else about the Wild Things issue and that is that parents are bringing children to movies who are way too young. Two year olds do not belong in movie theaters. Period.
Now that I know the movie is scary, I might actually go see it. I was afraid it was all Disney-fied tripe. Great post, great topic.
I saw the movie last week with my mom, and the little 4-year-old girl behind us said:

"Mommy, can we go home now?"

She wasn't scared though, she was bored. So were we. I completely agree with the premise of your argument, although I myself am without child. If I had one, I'd try not to smother it to death I imagine. Still, the movie itself kind of sucked. I didn't find it scary. I found it boring. Some books should just stay books.
I loved this book! And "In the Night Kitchen!" I bought all the banned books for my kids. I am such a rebel! Go Maurice!
It's not just the over-parenting that catches my attention, but the content of the fear. I'm always amazed, for example, by people who refuse to try new foods. What's the worst that could happen? Same with a scary movie -- do parents actually think that the sort of fear experienced during a movie (especially a relatively tame one) will permanently scar their children? In most cases, fright is transitory, leading to perhaps a evening's worth of bad dreams.

People, children included, are quite durable.
I read that article. thanks for the link! (chabon is my favorite favorite author)

I agree wholeheartedly. kids need adventure and adventure is a pivotal means of a human finding themselves in relation to the world.

I think though, to be honest that Sendak was a tad impatient and mean spirited in his response. he could have simply said, don't take kids who might not enjoy it. he needn't have told them to go to hell or go home or whatever however he said. crotchety.
I am so delighted by this post. Our modern society has us so trussed up by false fears we don't have time or interest in real fears like being in the dark, lost, or not knowing what'll happen next. Assuming that we can protect our children and control all the variables of life is, as you say, the mark of an addict. Co-dependent as all hell. When we deny our children formative childhood experiences and expressions of fear we protect them from life. Why on earth would we want to do that? So they can agree with the necessity to war against others, so that they're too afraid, don't know what it feels like, to speak out against the rampant injustices wrought by our so-called leaders! Sorry, touched a nerve. We need to expose the children, just a little bit, to the woods inside and out or when they grow up they'll have caught the fear bug good and proper and be frozen by it. Then anyone with power can do what they like with them.
As Fran Lebowitz said, the worst thing about children is that they are usually aaccompanied by adults.
Yeah, what's up with this new breed of yuppy, over protective parents? They think it is their birth right to censor everyone and everything when it comes to their children. Perhaps they should simply 'bronze' their kids and put them on a shelf!
nice. i agree with almost all of it. i had a wild and free childhood, frequently parentless, and as both a kid and a teenager i did stuff i wouldn't want my kids to do, for sure. Chabon and Sendak are generally right. I do think, though, it depends where you live. Small town life is pretty different from that in the big city. Having raised my kids in small towns for the most part, i think they were, while not as free as I, pretty free. It was only my fear that kept them tethered...and a lot of times it was indeed irrational. I do think,though, that kids, while cossetted more than we were, have the same chance at imagination as we did: and mine are quite imaginative and very interesting people if slightly less independent than I was (and I am working on that with them). I think kids's get more influence from their parents values than we think. If we are readers and thinkers they will be, too. At least much of the time.

But this is a good piece. I have long bemoaned the fact that my kids were not let loose to run the whole neighborhood in bikes until the streetlights came on, which is what I did. But, on the other hand, we rode without helmuts or lights, and when we rode in cars, we rattled and rolled around like toys pre-seatbelt days. I think each parents just needs to figure out ways to give their child freedom AND safety. It is tough, but then so is being a decent parent.
PS I was a voracious reader and my parents never censored my reading. I read Updike and Salinger in middle school (and of course had to read them again later) and picked up a copy of The Exorcist (from where I don't know) and read it at fourteen. I then shocked my mother by asking her what a "cunt" was in the car one day. Books definitely expanded my vision of the universe almost as much as riding around town on a bike did.
"Should parents go to hell if they think these movies are too scary for their children? Exactly how important does he think it is for children to see his movie? I'd rather my kids play in the park." --DannyOS

If you find these movies "too scary for kids", you're probably not letting your kids go to the park, either.

The problem is not just that parents are irrationally afraid that hundreds of thousands of kids are being kidnapped and murdered each year, and theirs will be next. The problem is that parents have become convinced that chidren cannot handle any sort of story or movie unless anything remotely resembling reality has been "disneyfied". All characters, including animals, must be over-the-top cutesified cartoon characters who speak adorable English. All conflict situations are clearly contrived, all situations have happy endings, and the villains end up getting their wrists slapped and apologizing for being bad.

Kids read real fairy tales where bad things can happen to anybody? Horrors! They can't possibly handle it anymore.
His stories got a negative review recently from someone on-line, can't remember who. Maybe he's in a pissy mood.
Nature deficit is a real problem and I am convinced that it negatively affects creativity, curiosity. and physical fitness. Children, more than adults, need to get out into nature, get their hands dirty, climb a tree, search for firewood, learn to make a campfire, and follow a creek through the woods or prairie.

Part of the problem, too, is our litigious society, and fear of litigation, that slaps silly rules on parks and other public spaces that tell kids what they can't do. Kids need to get out and explore and take some risks! Grrr, you have really hit a bullseye on one of my hot buttons!
I know I'm late coming to this post and most of the comments I would have made have already been stated. Still, I just wanted to thank you for such a brilliant post. Thank you.
Amazing post, thank you.

I saw the movie with my 7 yo and she loved it. She thought one particular scene was "mean" and didn't like how they played so rough with each other - she never said "scary."

It is my impression many people feel, even for themselves, that only certain emotions are "good." So when you apply that mentality to a children's movie, than God forbid you allow little Janie or Jack to have a moment where they feel scared or out of their parents comfort zone.

Many have commented about the outdoors. I like your statement:
"So, as a professor recently pointed out to me, white kids, for example, feel that they understand "black" culture because they listen to hip-hop music, but many of them do not have black friends."

Isn't this the truth about so many things with the progression of technology? It's as if there is an inverse proportion for how much technology grows to how little we actually experience any more - not just kids. "I see poverty on T.V. therefore I understand it." I mean, you made the point in this article...how many people think it's more dangerous out there (at least in terms of reported murders) when it actually has declined? I wonder how much we actually really know anymore...and I'm talking know at a fully integrated level. This may be a post developing...
I dont recall where I was just reading this. there is a immunological theory that immune system problems such as asthma are actually related to *lack* of a dirty environment for kids to grow up in. the macrocosm reflects the microcosm and vice versa.
Wonderful man, Sendak. "Go to hell" indeed. It's a beautiful film, I have no idea what these weirdos are talking about. The children in the theatre were entranced by it. Sendak and Jonze are genius, but evidently criticism in America has been invaded by creepy little neurotics.
Wonderful essay. My wanderings to the playground, the creek, all around town really, before supper and before dark (and after dark, memorably, on Hallowe'en) all figure prominently in my writing - those memories seem so quaint now, incredible as it seems, I'm going to be a relic! A relic of the time when nuns taught school, when kids would wander around, when parents weren't so scared, when being a kid meant being an individual person and not just an extension of your parents' fears and hopes for you.
This is so true, and when you're a parent finding the balance can be tricky. Wild things are everywhere. Kidnapping is a scary thought, but so is being beat down by kids from the bordering neighborhood. Even so, at some point you have to open the door and say "be back before dark."

Then, if you're me, you sit in the kitchen with a cup of coffee and watch the sky until you hear the door again.
I think children ARE less safe today ... because of the irrational parental group fear. Our children are afraid of strangers and good hearted strangers are afraid to help children because they may be perceived incorrectly. Now, the only male adults that will go up to a child that looks lost and bewildered is far more likely to be evil than when I was a child. As a adult male, when I see a child in possible distress, I look for a woman and ask her to speak to the child.
The ability to recognize that stories are stories is a function of cognitive development. Stuff in books is pretty clearly not real. But kids the age appropriate for reading the book have trouble doing that in movies. So, monsters can seem so much more scary. Forcing a kid to face that before they're developmentally ready is just plain stupid.

Parents should be aware of what their kid's fear factor is and work with it. If a kid is afraid of bugs and dogs and strangers, then deal with that. But monsters?

My guess is the movie is not appropriate for small kids because 10 year olds and adults wouldn't sit through it if it was.
Great article; seems the safety radius from the home shrinks with each passing decade if only in our imagination.
Two days late and never mind how many dollars short:

Hi, fingerlakeswanderer (and nods to all the other post-ers here!)

Congratulations on your Editors Pick!

I'm the Oldest Geezer around here (a couple of years younger than Sendak, I guess, but not as photogenic?!).

As a long-ago Finger Lakes not so much 'wanderer' as basking in my version of Garden of Eden ("Can-an-dai-gua": Seneca/Iroquois for "the chosen spot") ... now ?wanderer away from there?, I've long been comforted by your OS name.

As for Sendak himself....??!!

Well, this wasn't ?"exactly"? the point of your post -- but as a longtime Sendak lover (no, not in the sense of today's most quikspik meaning of the word) I was fascinated to find out: (a) that he's still alive and (b) that he's a U.S.-er! And all this time, I thought he was FRENCH?

Send me a "pm" if you have a minute, my homeplace/time gal, o.k.? Many parts of your story similar to mine; many parts [of course?! :-)] "diffrnt"!

podunkmarte
I'd like to agree with the fantasy that children are in no more danger from abduction than in previous generations. Because of internet websites and publications proliferated by them, a nearby city reports abduction attempts every few weeks. Most are unsuccessful because, sadly, both parents and teachers must constantly educate children to run from strangers and report them to trusted adults. It's not for no reason that more parents accompany their children on Halloween.

It is true that the number of Halloween poisonings, etc. has been exaggerated.
Fabulous post and a fabulous discussion. This is indicative of the many reasons I love OS.
Thanks for presenting a subject and promoting great dialogue. I truly appreciate it.
I have a lot to say, but, strangely, feel like I'll continue to let others be more articulate!
Well, my mom used to scare us. She pretended to be a witch until I peed in my pants and begged her to become mommy again. Which is probably why the wicked witch in Disney's Sleeping Beauty terrified me. Too familiar. But I also watched Night of the Lonely Hunter starring Robert Mitchum, now there's a scary film I adored as a child. I resonated with those "poor li'l orphans" who found a safe secure home with Lillian Gish. I wished I was them.
I love your thoughts about a rainy day and curling up with a good book. On Fridays my little brother and I were allowed to walf to the library, maybe 2 miles away, and get our selections. I remember the librarian asking me if my mother knew I was reading a certain book, ( I've forgotten the name of it now), and my quick response was That the book was for my mother!
Rated
Good post, Lorraine and a well deserved EP
What an excellent essay! The best I've read in quite some time.

Our kids have been robbed. We have filled them with fear because our own rubs off. They are not sophisticated in the right things, seek the wrong things and fear the wrong things. The woods and wild rivers has nothing to fear if a kid has been versed in ways to care for himself in this environment.

I was literally raised in the woods, walked a mile and a half twice a day to catch a school bus that drove me another ten miles to school. It was the best time of my life. I scaled huge pine trees and swung from a vine to drop into the river for a swim. I learned to fish and to garden. I have seen nothing more beautiful throughout my life than my dad's acres of cotton in full bloom. It was like fluffly white clouds clinging three feet off the ground. I even killed a rattle snake while chopping wood for the fireplace.

There is nothing so great as the wilderness and it is something sall our kids should be introduced to.
I, too, had much freedom as a child. We lived in the country in the west, where neighbors were few and far between. Play was usually with a sibling or alone. Without many toys, you create them. Imagination allows an old piece of plywood, nails and bailing wire to help create a city. Filling stations and stores, in our minds eye. Or just wandering alone, acres to myself. Surrounded by mountains and trees, lulled by the low roar of the river flowing by. I found flowers I had never seen before or driftwood in all shapes and sometimes stuff washed up after springs high water. I once found a hammer that had washed up. A bit rusty, but I cleaned the rust off and polished it up and gave it to my father for Father’s Day. I was so proud of my gift. My free find. Something he could use that I couldn't have bought for him.

I heard the birds, captured chipmunks, lay down in the grassy meadow by the river watching the clouds go by. Sometimes with the cows or horses near, the rumbling trains going by.

I knew every inch of the property. Where every tree was located. I could walk it in the dark with no lights, no moon. As I got older and started going out, that knowledge came in handy. I could walk from where the bus picked us up for school instead of having my boyfriend drive in. Even in the dark my feet knew the path. The only time I ever had a problem is if my dad left something in the way or when the 2000 lb. bull who acted like a puppy was laying down in the path. I did trip over him once or twice on those blackest of nights where even shadows weren't visible. The bull was a big baby that just wanted to get scratched behind the ears or a rub on his head. No problem. There was no source of artificial light unless my parents left one on. There seemed to be little to fear, though we did have mountain lions and bears or the occasional hobo from the railroad. (You never knew about them. Some were scary, some weren't.) I rarely felt fear though I probably should have. I probably shared the night with a few critters I didn't know were there.

When I stayed with friends in town and much later, when I lived in town, the street lights shining in through the windows always kept me awake because I was not used to light. My kids didn’t get that. They didn’t have that kind of freedom because we didn’t live in the same kind of place. I let them have as much freedom as I could in the circumstances we lived in, but society won’t allow you to. Remember the woman who did what we all threatened and made her daughters get out of the car to walk about a mile from home? While she did go back around to pick them up, only the older of the two was walking. It seems someone had taken the 10 year old into a store for an ice cream and then called the police. The mom was arrested. How can we allow our children the kind of freedom we may have once enjoyed if we can’t even tell them to walk a mile home without someone interfering and mom getting arrested?