Since I saw stray posts about OS being a goner, I've felt ...lousy...er.
Then, of course, the post about how we are all hysteric sheep who stink.
Then, the stray comments or posts expressing disgust at all that is meta and even accusing the poster of the meta of unsavory manipulation.
Quietly, I argue with those folks . Oftentimes the desire to discuss one's immediate environment is based on genuine motivation. As I write this I don't fantasize about being on top of the feed or being picked for anything whatsostinkingever.
Reading that Salon is bound to go Kaput and deducing that this will be the end of Open Salon, is not an illogical leap. If Salon goes under so does this, and so it is.
I do my arguing in silence, cause my headspace can't afford any further controversy. Boy, do I make some salient points up in there!
Losing OS entirely seems kind of sickening to me. I want to express it somehow. And, I want to read others impressions. I rather read about that or write about that than Sandusky . So sue me.
But before you sue me please participate in my hysterical harpies open call: " What losing OS would mean to you."
Losing OS will suck for so many reasons. All the souls I've connected with in the ether... now not together? Where they and I gonna go? Oh no!
I get the concepts of illusoriness . I understand that much of OS is transitory and out of reach. I get that it's a random slew of humanity and that it does not amount to anything very concrete, most of the time.
But, some of it has amounted to real affection and real great moments. There has been love generated. Lots. Losing it is not akin to the death of a loved one but it is feels like palpable loss. Loss whose pain might lessen by expression, I say.
I've made real friends here, and I don't use the word "friend" without great pause.
Spirits that seemed forever in the toilet were lifted by so many of you here . You have lifted my spirits from out the toilet! When my faith in humanity was thrown down a well and left for dead, you hoisted it partways towards the well's mouth.
That is valuable stuff. I hope I returned that favor in any way, somewhere along the way.
It's seems uncool to say that for me it has been a lifesaver on occassion . It seems desperately uncool to go on and on about how much I'll miss it if it sinks. I'm not in the mood to be even more uncool just now, but I know many of you reading this will know that the gush would have been directed at them had I succumbed to impulse.
I have some mad love for this joint. I counted on sharing the good news that is bound to come ANY DAY NOW(helllooooo?) with so many here.
Scattered everywhere . OS: Spam poisoned, lousily managed, a dose of batshit for every gem. Gone?
Anyway, it's James's birthday, and musings of meta and non meta should be regarded without censure.
It's also good news Sunday.I'm guessing that the good news is that the site is still up and that none of us have had to blog about being a victim of flesh eating bacteria.
It is always embarrassing to say a dramatic goodbye when a goodbye was unwarranted. OMG, I hate that. Airplane flight cancelled and now the object of that grand goodbye is sitting with you in the airport bar.
Murphy's law now says that if we write dramatic goodbyes to OS, OS will last for eternity, just to make us look like fools. So, I hope you participate.
For Doris:

For birthday boy James:
For everybody else: Me waving hello or goodbye. 


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So far 34 have signed up... I'm also double posting at Wordpress.com: http://calitexan1949.wordpress.com/
I can't imagine if OS goes dark that we won't be able to stay in touch.
If you wish to join, it's a pretty simple thing to do, costs nothing but a little time and effort, and will yield a gathering spot wherein we may all discuss freely and in a safe zone, what we are to do next.
if so, just head for Friday afternoon's post at my blog, the one about an alternative to facebook.
It's free and has fewer security issues than facebook.
Hope to see you there! I'll PM you with a phrase to use so I'll know it's you waiting to be "approved" into the active membership there.
Peace, dearie!
R
LOL
:)
I blog here and there on here now and 1.5 years ago I began to blog on another channel. Its hard work and sometimes next to impossible sometimes to get seen unlike here.. but it has worked out for me. BUT I still come on here every single day and read because that is where my friends are.
It's the fellowship that would be lost my friend.. and that is huge.
HUGE
Love your pics.
HUGGGGGGGGGG
Sorry to keep this short.I keep losing comments today.
GOOD BYE GOOD RIDDANCE HOPE IT GETS RUN OVER BY A LARGE SHERMAN TANK!!!!!! SUCKS HERE!! HATE IT!!!!
Oh wait...this is not a Kansas City Royals Little League Baseball game??? ('cause we don't have big league ball here)
What??? Where ????
Oh...Open Salon???
Heck...THAT CAN'T GO ANYWHERE!!
I NEEDS OS
Is WANTS OS
Is GOTTA HAVES OS!!!
Dern it anywho!!!!
If it goes...I GO!!!
Wait......uhm.......no......im confused....the meds are kicking in.......never do root beer and demerol at the same time.......
That's why I'm so strongly behind sagemerlin's effort and urge everyone to support it any way they can.
- Mark
Must run, but hope to be more specific in a later post -- if not, then You, Ferns, are the perfect example of what I found here on OS that has enhanced my life, and you also are a perfect example of what I would miss here.
is in baby james's bottle. It aint apple juice.
Well, if os goes down tonight, at least the joker in the deck,,
namely me,
clogged up the damn feed, in a mini meta-post.
That would be a fitting end to os. And yet, no...
No, not yet...
Anyway, i agree entirely: re. your two propositions:
'I do my arguing in silence,
cause my headspace can't afford any futher controversy.
and
Boy, do I make some salient points up in there!
I'm on it. Must let this stew in my brain for a bit.
cough cough...
furball......wheeze......gasp..........where's that water hose???
If I were a religious person I would even pray. I do hope someone puts the fear of God or maybe the Devil in to those in charge tho.
What would the demise of OS mean to me. Well l would not have a lot of English conversation with all you OS folks. That would mean I'd have to call some of my relatives in America more often. That's something I nor they would want to happen.
R
JD has turned into Tink !
Then I wondered if I was the last to catch on to this...
It's an option.
Others just want Yahoo, because they disagree with facebook's policies.
The choice is yours.
:)
" That would mean I'd have to call some of my relatives in America more often. That's something I nor they would want to happen."
Ha! Pre-OS, I did call, email, write family and friends -- one relative would reply, she's my favorite one -- I'll leave her all my money -- even so-called good friends never reply to emails -- fuck 'em.
My OS friends comment, support, argue, reply : )
What it will it mean to me? Total devastation. Loss of community. And now dammit I have this thing that makes me write and I WILL have to continue, and to not post those things HERE will hurt terribly. AND I will miss YOU!
In a nutshell - buy OS from Salon Media Group, or re-create it somewhere else. The first hurdle is money - revenue and expenses. Alan is trying to buy Salon Media Group stock in order to have access to the details. Even though it's penny stock, it isn't easy to buy - most transactions are between insiders.
For buying it, Alan says he has access to investors. But. we'd have to have a solid plan to show they'd not be taking too great a risk.
For re-creating it, there'd have to be enough ad income to support paying for a hosting site, developers/DBAs, tech support, maintenance, refreshment, etc.
If the nubers look good, then Alan or someone else with the necessary experience can proceed with creating a non-profit group under which the new OS would operate.
- Mark
http://open.salon.com/blog/sagemerlin/
I'll try again.
Jmac: 34 is a decent number. Let's hope it takes off. The more I think about it the sadder it seems.
PW: I sure will, sweets. Will check my PM the minute I can. xoo. I do not intend to lose touch with you.
PavanneVeltman: You've been here from the start. By george, I hope you do. Great to see you.
Linda: You have the energy of a thousand men. It is the fellowship . Big HUGGG to you.
HeidiB: Will pm you asap. I hope this comment shows up ;)
Sheila: Beautifully put. It worked and many of is got comfort and beauty from it. You are one its stars.
Fur flying on my poetry!
Love poetry from the paws of a cat
I have found community here late at night, when depressed or lonely and comfort and support for the poems and crazy parties I sometimes put up.
Hoping it is just nonsense that it is going down.
JD Tink: Root beer and demorol does have a strange affect on you.You have been here from the start for me . Ah, fond memories.
Matt: I was in denial too but then ... yikes. I guess I will have to join some things I've avoided.
James: That baby is me not babyjames . Thanks for agreeing with my propositions.
Sweetfeet: Another fine blast from the past! Glad you are it. I await.
MarkinKentuckia: Sagemerlin's post on this is too business savvy for my non business head but I too hope any plan of his works.
JT: Looking very forward to that post. As for the rest of your comment: So mutual it isn't funny. Such a lovely comment. Thank you.
I am a recluse by design and when I read these threats my heart broke and I too, sadly, got into the hype.
My goal was to show the execs at Salon that we are a serious group and are willing to be part of the solution.
I may not post as often, but I read daily.
I hate moving or divorce and this possible loss of OS is what preparing for a long distance move feels like to me. I'm going to lose so many people I like and love. I hate how it feels but it is what it is.
I'm wild about you too dear fernsy, I'm honored to have a friend like you. I should have stayed away today, I sprung a leak and now there is water running out of my eyes. I would miss you very much.
I look for my favorite funnies;
tink, accidental dad,
james emmerling ,
Algis And Linda Seccaspina to just name a few,
and of course Jonathan Wolfman,
all the fiction I want and so many others, please, no-one be insulted, there is just so much room.
But that is exactly what I am saying.
And of course, I would miss you!
Still don't have much time to read and act ontyhis, but anybody out there who is organizing alternate site- ways to stay in touch, please let me know
will try to write more at legth later
Thanks
Bob
It is official JD is now Tink
Rita: I'd miss you something fierce. Let's hope it's nonsense. But the gut says... not. The gut is not always so trusty, thank god. I've portended doom too many times to mention.
Outon a limb: I'm addled. Losing OS might be the last marble.
I'm reminded of the last plant closing I went through. At least with that you saw it coming even though the level of denial was pretty high. Here it feels very day to day.
M.C.S: So many I'd still like to discover. Let's hope.
DianeSL: Even if one is not a shut in there are cooler people here per capita than out there. At least, LA.
Dorisdear: I have lost control of the comments and now am all teary after reading your comment. Plus, I need to find a way to make a dinner! Help. Will write more later, buddy girl.
Hafta write something wonderful now.....uhm.......
"If OS does dark and the lights go out,
I'll sharpen my claws and rip their guts out!!!!"
goes out into the bushes now.....
Them?
Yep them!!!!
No no no...not those THEMs!!!!
The other THEMS!!!!
The ones sitting in the root cellar administrating this site with bottles of moonshine in their laps and listening to RedNex playing on their IPADS signing "Cotton Eyed Joe" and scratching their balls!!!
No no..not THOSE balls!!!!
The EYE balls. of course.
Not Cotton Eyed singers right?
I also love what you wrote in answer to your OC - so clever and funny and moving all at once.
And the baby picture - perfect - though hopefully there'll be no need to wave goodbye to OS....
there
other places
OS gave me:
an online identity
a new love
a soon to be new house
more white hair
laughs
cries
wonderful friends
meaning
and soon to be sadness
Second, since I have been spending less time on OS in recent weeks, part of me has already been saying goodbye. The people here whose friendship I treasure have been able to converse with me on Facebook or by email.
That said, I will say that I have started blogs on other websites but none of them compare to OS. There is more traffic here, more interaction with readers, as well as an interesting diversity of thought. OS
You are very cute in that carriage. I hope it's not goodbye.
Murphy my Irish comrade do your work!!!!!!
You are very cute in that carriage. I hope it's not goodbye.
Murphy my Irish comrade do your work!!!!!!
the yahoo group is also great... a staging area in case here goes tits up. i support that effort also.
i hope we dont go in too many different directions... if we do go.
my(our) site is here: http://oursalon.ning.com/
Like Asia rein said. It's been super-welcoming.
but wait: before you all wander off and leave me wondering if I smell bad or something - what is meta? What else should I know about the empire?
Mostly, don't wander off. I just got here and am having a real good time. Keep writing to me/for me! Please!
AisaR: You've been a great addition I gotta say. Lots of good energy about your OS presence.
LL: Looking forward to read what you will write.
Alysamydear: Can't wait to read yours. Me as a sloppy baby might be just waving hello to the camera. Thanks for your sweet comment.
vzn: For me it's been relatively love love. And, I'm usually a conflicted type. Emily is history it seems.
ChuckStetson: Wow. It really gave you a lot. It's always been laced with sadness. So many come and go and just never heard from again. And, the deaths and the sicknesses. But when it's gone for good-- very sad.
JL: Ha. I'll be in the same predicament. I'll no it's really dire when I sit in front of the cupcake wars.
Mostly doing the denial thing though.
Littlewillie: Another fine blast from the past. You copy and paste it into a word document. Well, that's the way I do it.
Joanne: I was hoping to get to know you better. Any friend of Erica is good people. Murphy's law is the most accurate law going ;>(
Erica: Give it a try, dear. It feels as if OS has so much more life in her. We'll see. Meeting you and the offline friendships really made it something.
Lorianne: A fine fine blast from the past. I remember a comment of yours till today. Will definately check that link out. Thanks for giving me the heads up.
Bell: Yep. Hope you join whatever group forms.
PamelaSBach: You smell wonderful. Sorry you had to arrive when it's so messy. Hope to read you soon.
Well, then I'm with your Fernsey - Uncool.
~R~
OS has been, for me, a place to restore courage and take the plunge into more self-expression. I learn from all you people. This has been like a thought haven and a school and a vacation from ordinary life all in one.
ferns, I'm awful glad I know you. We had some grand times with Amanda and the others there for a while didn't we?
;)
Love ya, hon!
Justphyliss: Sanity must be saved! a cafe refugee camp? It's sounding promising.
Erica: It was great.
justJulie: The whole gang is really here. gasp flop gasp too ;)
Trilogy: Uncool is cool then.
Eyespye: Luvs ya and yaz know it.
MaryS: Yes, and other good things.
PW: I remember them as if they were yesterday. All the drunken reverie. You threw some surreal and wondeful parties. Love that Amanda though she has long been away. Love ya too dear. Thanks for everything.
Duane: Yep and it attracts attractive characters. We get a full fledged maniac here and there but it's the exception. And, I'm not talking about those fun maniacs.
Thegnome! Cyril, i swear to god i thought of you and how now we just need the gnome to return. And, there is the best gnome ever known . So glad the gnome has come home.
Scanner: If it's all for naught than this will all be just a strange but fond memory in ten years.
What triggered this panic was an outage Thursday that lasted several hours. The usual total lack of communication from The Powers That be added to the uneasiness. Leading up to the outage, there was news that one of the big financial journals had included Salon Media Group in a list of 10 most likely to go under this year. Add to that the fact the the CEO and another C level recently left, and that the brand new CIO was moved to CEO, and you had fertile ground for rumors.
sagemerlin did a post revisiting his idea of buying OS, or re-creating it.
All these things brought forth the flood of posts we've all seen and some people got panicky.
All in all, I think it has been positive. It got people thinking about alternatives - OS will die some day and we will not be given advance notice. It lead people to set up and others to join meet up sites. It got people backing up their work. It shook people out of complacency about OS and what means to them.
- Mark
If only I had enough time for it! I've just got one too many things going....
:(
It's reality blogging and we need more of it. I wish that the comments were threaded as it's hard to have a real conversation, but I appreciate those who keep trying. I do chime in from time to time.
As far as trying to keep Open Salon going, it's a long shot if Salon keels over, but long shots do win once in a while. Open Salon, for all of its technical snafus is a unique place on the web. I'd hate to see it go down without a fight. Not likely given the wild bunch who post here...
Mariaheng: yep.
Bob Simpson: I never liked memoirs too much but I
really enjoy the bloggers who focus on their real day to day lives. Here's to long shots!
Dreidel: A positive outlook can't hurt. As you know, I'd miss you and make sure you signed up to some group somewhere.xo
Toth: Doesn't that pig have a cute belly. I'd miss you too pal. We can all find a place to write but it would be the loss of the community built over time that would really hurt.xo
Lshmoopie: Your postings may be sporadic but you've been a very valuable member for a long time.
But still it would be unfortunate if I turn out to be mistaken. I started out Blogging to focus on important issues someplace where I could get some attention; now that I'm finally getting a little traffic it would be annoying to have to start all over again at a new location where no one knows where to look.
Also even though keeping up with the social activity on OS and the poetry, photography, literature, art etc. wasn't my primary objective I have found that a lot of it is worthwhile and if I have time it would be worth it to look at more although I wouldn't want to spend too much time on the computer.
My best guess is with Scanner it probably isn't happening so you and James should probably wave hello. :-)
Brilliant.
R♥
A toast to all of you for the gift of your creativity, and thanks to those who have read and commented on my feeble efforts. Vive l'OS!!
As far as the death knells for OS: some people act like Chicken Little, some like Scanner disbelieve the possibility. I don't have any inside info one way or the other. I ask you all to think only of this: Of the websites you toured, say 10 years ago, how many are still there? And if they've survived the past decade, how much have they changed?
Bottom line, change is inevitable. You can prepare for it, or you can continually play catch-up.
Looks like it's time for me to put the finishing touches on my WordPress site.
Thanks for the OC, Fernsy. I've meant to check into your blog for some time and never got around to it.
-R-
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Luminousmuse: My ADD coupled with PTSD makes any extra step too hard so I hope we all just can stay here.
Brazen: You are one of the premier reasons I'd miss this place. Thank you, sweet senorita.
Fusun: I'd so miss those fancy hearts.
JettNoire: Another excellent blast from the past. Where you been?
LEMerithew: It is inevetiable but it still is really unwelcome in this instance. Hope the place stays and we both get to discover eachoters blogs.
Algis: You go!
Asia: You just do appear as a good vibe sort of person and those types are always a treat. Plus you are intelligetn and a good writer.No appreciation necessary. Just speaking my truth, as they say. :)
Jaime: Check your Pm but I love your guts too, mija!
that is my strategy. look what i have accomplished!
uh, something that tomorrow will be ancient history, my ep..but
still...
demise of os would be a serious crimp in my gentlemanly
voyeuristic hobbies.
my nosy nose.
my great love for them i am nosy about,sure, but..
a nosey guy? creepy.
ha. not the way i do it!
James: I'm as nosy as it gets. Want to be reincarnated as a fly on the walls. Just fly around from wall to wall. Heaven.Not creepy to be nosy in my opinion. I guy who walks around naked and is nosy maybe but not just a regular curious typa fella. Talk about curiosity: Where in the hell did the feed go? Are they taking away our toys because we got a littel peevish with them or is this some grand money making thing we can't yet understand?
It's unthinkable!