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Deborah Méndez Wilson

Deborah Méndez Wilson
Location
Denver Metro Area, Colorado, USA
Birthday
August 24
Title
Journalist/Periodista
Company
Colorín Colorado Communications
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I'm a fifth-generation Coloradan whose Spanish/Pueblo Indian family roots run hundreds of years deep in the U.S. Southwest. I am a Westerner, through and through, and can't imagine living anywhere else in the United States. The Colorado/New Mexico territory is my ancestral homeland. _______________________________ I am a mother of two and grandmother of one, but don't expect me to conform to anachronistic, enshrined stereotypes of what a woman is supposed to be or do in the autumn of her life. _______________________________ I am a professionally trained journalist who loves to blog, too. I earned my 10,000 hours while working as a daily journalist, and unabashedly worship at the altar of English. _______________________________ Though English is my native language and I adore it, I am fluent in Spanish because I lived in South America for a decade, and revel in the vibrant, haunting beauty of Castilian and Latin American cultures, histories and dialects. ¡Que viva el Español! _______________________________ Follow me on Twitter: @DebMendezWilson

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JULY 10, 2012 2:51PM

My Big, Fat Interracial Marriage

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As my husband and I prepare to celebrate 15 years of marriage this year, we wonder what all the stir is about 

My husband and I met the usual way—in a dive bar. Over the years I’ve spun the story to make it sound less like a cliché.

 

“We met at a jazz club,” I’ll say in polite company. “I went there to see an improvisational drummer, and wound up with an Irishman who brandished impressive guns.”

 

By guns I mean rock-solid biceps and triceps honed by years of rock climbing and weightlifting. I know, because I squeezed those guns shamelessly the night we met at El Chapultepec, a legendary Denver bar that is steeped in music lore. Music greats such as Miles Davis, Chet Baker, and Stan Getz played at the jazz mecca, and the likes of Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Ella Fitzgerald, Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger, Bono, Jack Kerouac, and Bill Clinton—who played tenor sax on the club’s tiny stage—have sat on its hallowed stools. In a 2006 Esquire magazine story, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer J.R. Moehringer described El Chapultepec like this: It “smells like New York, feels like New Orleans, and sounds like southside Chicago.” It was perfect.

 

In the Aztec language of Nahuatl, “chapultepec” means “grasshopper hill,” so the bar was a fitting place to catch a husband, especially for a grasshopper like me who still had a lot to learn about love. I was 38 and he was 41. It had been eight years since I’d divorced my first husband, a South American engineer, and longer since he’d divorced his first wife, a sweet white American girl-next-door with a killer body. As Bonnie Raitt would say, we found love in the nick of time. He was cute, smart, and made me laugh, and took me to good restaurants. What really closed the deal for me, though, was the way he opened his door to welcome me with a cilantro-infused salad in one hand, and an acoustic guitar in the other. He serenaded me with Spanish love songs, and we danced to Lyle Lovett and the Gipsy Kings.

 

We figured out that we had “almost met” on several occasions, and our whirlwind romance felt destined to be. I met his elderly parents, sitting stiffly amid his mother’s Irish lace as his father dropped casual “N” bombs, and he met my large, rambunctious Hispanic family, who told him embarrassing stories about my checkered past as they fed him tamales and green chile. On our wedding day, I wore a long, vintage Gunny Sax dress to cover my baby bump, and carried a bunch of lilies tied with ribbon. As we walked toward the judge’s chambers in the drab Denver City and County Building, a line of prisoners broke into applause, clanging their handcuffs and whooping with glee as we passed. I’m still not sure if they were happier about our shotgun wedding or our interracial marriage.

 

On that November day in 1997, we became husband and wife, happily joining the ranks of thousands of other whipped fools who have loved each other so much they were willing to face discrimination and alienation to be together. For us, love was not only blind, it was color blind. Stone-cold color blind. I’m Mexican American, and my “viejo,” my old man, is (mostly) Irish American. This year we’ll celebrate 15 years of marriage. We still love each other, have a beautiful son, and have built a big, sloppy, happy life together. So what’s the big deal?

 

Forty-five years after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down bans on interracial marriage, the number of mixed couples is on the rise, according to the Pew Research Center’s Social and Demographic Trends project. Over the coming decades, interracial marriage is expected to become even more common as more people learn to accept that humans can and do fall in love despite differences in skin color, language, religion, culture, and national origin. One day, much as it has existed in Latin America for centuries, interracial marriage might even become the norm in the United States and Canada. One day, the pejorative concepts of miscegenation, half-breeds, and mongrelization will seem like bad throwbacks to the colonial era.

 

According to the Pew study, 15 percent of all new marriages in the United States in 2010 were interracial, which is more than double the 6.7 percent reported in 1980. In fact, interracial marriages reached an all-time high in the United States in 2010, accounting for 8.4 percent of all marriages. That is far above the 3.2 percent reported in 1980, but still far too low to celebrate color-blind love in our putative “post-racial” nation, sociologists say. Census data issued in April indicate that one in 10 opposite-sex married couples, about 5.4 million pairs, are interracial, a 28 percent jump since 2000. In 2010, 18 percent of heterosexual unmarried couples were of different ethnic or racial backgrounds, or about 1.2 million pairs, and 21 percent of same-sex couples, or 133,477 pairs, were mixed.

 

“Race is still a category that separates and divides us,” Cornell University sociologist Dan Lichter told USA Today, but “this might be evidence that some of the historical boundaries that separate the races are breaking down.”

The way my husband and I see it, we are way ahead of the curve on this growing trend. As baby boomers we grew up with the civil rights movement, and have seen tumultuous social changes throughout our lives. But these changes have not translated into a high rate of interracial marriages for boomers. The generation that preached “make love, not war” and ignited a midcentury cultural revolution that spawned drugs, sex, free love and rock ‘n’ roll, grew up and grew old mostly with people who looked, sounded and acted just like them. Most boomers played it “safe.” Few broke out of the mold handed down to them by their repressed, 1940s and ‘50s parents. Those who did, were seen as offbeat, eccentric and a little “wild.”

 

In fact, the Pew study concluded that only 9 percent of white Americans have taken the color-blind leap of faith for love. For Hispanics, it’s 26 percent; 17 percent for African Americans; and 28 percent for Asians. Interracial marriage is more common in the Western United States, where one in five people, or 22 percent, married outside their ethnic group in 2010. The figures drop to 14 percent in the South; 13 percent in the Northeast; and 11 percent in the Midwest. Hawaii boasted  more interracial couples than any other state, with four in 10 newlyweds, or 42 percent, intermarrying in 2010. Other states with notable interracial marriage rates include Oklahoma, 26.3 percent; Nevada, 25.6 percent, and New Mexico, 25.4 percent. In Colorado, where my husband and I reside, only 8.8 percent of marriages are interracial.

 

Maybe it’s because I grew up in the Mountain West, but my tastes toward men have mostly tended toward the Anglo-Saxon persuasion. My sociologist friends might argue that I suffer from self-hatred, or that I’ve been “brainwashed” by mainstream U.S. society, which has flashed repeated images of the white European as the standard of beauty and trusted authority figure for more than 100 years in film, television, radio and print media. They’d be wrong on both accounts. I’ve given Latino men in the United States plenty of opportunities to date me, but most have never found me attractive because I am too independent, too career-minded, too opinionated, and too much like my gringa sisters. My luck with Hispanic men didn’t change until I met my first husband, a bona fide Latin American. In the end, it was a bona fide Englishman who stole my heart in South America, and broke up my first marriage.

 

Mexican-American men have always seemed angry and resentful when they’ve seen me walking down the street on the arm of an Anglo-Saxon male. I’ve grown to recognize the territorial look in their so-familiar, brotherly eyes. When I’ve tried to discuss the issue with my hardcore Chicana friends, they’ve smiled devilishly like the cabrónas that they are, and called me “La Malinche” in a playful, passive-aggressive way. Mexico’s version of Pocahontas, La Malinche was a Nahua woman who became a translator, adviser and lover to conquistador Hernán Cortés, and is condemned bitterly to this day for aiding and abetting Spain’s conquest of the Aztec nation. As a teenager, I lusted after blond, blue-eyed boys with 1970s versions of the Bieber haircut while enduring my stepfather’s World War II-era admonishments that “marriage was hard enough without throwing racial differences into the mix.” Call it kismet or a cultural curse, but it’s been my destiny to bear La Malinche’s notoriety.

 

My husband and I both grew up with fathers who had served in segregated military units in World War II. They came back from the war with set ideas about "those people," anyone who didn't fit in with their idea of what was normal, familiar and comforting. My late stepfather tried to dissuade my sisters and me from dating anyone who was not Hispanic, and was every bit as capable of being a bigot, despite his brown skin. He'd known too much hatred in his life, including signs in barber shops and other public establishments in the 1930s that read, "No dogs or Mexicans allowed." I'm not making excuses for my father-in-law or stepfather, but they truly were products of another time and place. Before they died, both had grown to know, accept and even love the life my husband and I have created for ourselves.

 

I can’t say I’ve brought down an entire civilization by marrying my husband, but we have broken through a lot of taboos, and weathered our own challenges over the years. We fight over the same things all couples fight over—money, child rearing, the division of labor, sex, and who gets to control the remote on movie nights. Alone, we are free to ignore mainstream society’s prejudices, and face each other as we are: man to woman, husband to wife, parent to parent, boomer to boomer, Coloradan to Coloradan, American to American. We are walking on a trail blazed by other interracial couples throughout history—from Frederick Douglass and Helen Pitts to Richard Loving and Mildred Jeter. We are not pioneers, but we are carrying the flame.

 

In our house, my husband is not “white” and I am not “brown.” We are man and woman, and we speak the same language. Things have not always gone perfectly. My husband and daughter clashed throughout her rebellious teenage years, and his efforts to be a surrogate father to her have not gone unrecognized. We understand all the jokes about married couples who can’t stand each other sometimes, yet can’t imagine life without the other. Sometimes we butt heads over political issues, and don’t always agree that our country has progressed socially. He is an eternal optimist, and believes we’ve moved the needle forward. I am a realist who sees right through retrograde attitudes, and hears bigoted comments with hair-trigger precision. When he wants to lighten up my mood, my blue-eyed, blond-haired husband holds up his tanned arm up to mine and say teasingly, “See? I’m darker than you are. You can’t deny me my Latino roots.” 

The one person who can bring everything to a screeching halt, and put everything into perspective is our son, who is the perfect manifestation of everything we’ve worked toward in our life together. He didn’t ask for it, but our son seems to be weathering life as an interracial child just fine. His very birth was living proof that I was, indeed, human, that I belonged to the same species as my husband, and that we could procreate and bring forth another human being who bleeds red, breathes air, and carries DNA from both of us in his body. Granted, our son looks more like his dad, and everyone jokes that I “must have been asleep at the wheel” when he was conceived (Believe me, I wasn't). Our son has a musician’s pitch-perfect ear, and plays guitar like his dad. At the same time, he has a knack for language, and my goofy sense of humor.

Our son is a bold representation of our faith in humanity. He is accepting of people of all backgrounds, which fills me with pride. One day, he’ll bring home a special someone, and the only thing that will matter is whether or not that person will love and care for my son as much as I love and care for his father. At 14, our son knows he is a cultural hybrid, and doesn’t have to choose one side over the other. In the microcosm of our lives, he lives in a richly textured tapestry of love and acceptance. Still, we can’t protect him from the world, and he learns the lessons of human frailty and darkness when classmates tell him, “Nu-uh, dude, you’re not Hispanic,” right after one of them has made an ignorant comment or joke about Mexicans, probably something they heard at home. At first he bristles, then he educates. He is never cut, viscerated or scarred by their young, foolish ineptitude.

 

One of the most hopeful findings of the Pew project is this: Forty-three percent of Americans believe more interracial marriages would be a change for the better for our country.

 

It’s been a long time coming, but it’s something to hold onto, like the big, strong arms of the brawny Irishman who still holds me as we dance.

 

-30-

 

 © 2012 Story and photos by Deborah Méndez Wilson. All rights reserved. YouTube video of the Black Keys, "Howlin' for You." All rights reserved.

 

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why not claim victory, deb? sure, you personally were not the one
but people who dared to love like u did are the ones to cheer.
and you are one of them. we all play out archetypal patterns.
i dunno what i am doing.
i leave it to Fate now.

good stuff, for this is so true in many loving couples i know:
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We figured out that we had “almost met” on several occasions, and our whirlwind romance felt destined to be"

my sister's is. too.
I love this and can relate so much. My family is awash with different nationalities and races. My second family not at all.Funny thing is that recently my husband found out he is one quarter Cuban. It is a long story, but it came via the internet. His grandfather did not stop in Havana on his way here from France...as it was told...but was born there. I love it!!! As I have mentioned I adore the Latino culture and enjoyed spending time in Mexico,Venezuela and PR.
Looking for his family in Cuba will be a treat, if we ever are allowed to travel there. By the way, you are a handsome couple...and your son is a gem!
Don't take this the wrong way, but you look like my parents. My mother (hispanic) and my father (Irish-Bostonian) married in 1960...when there was a bigger stink about "interracial marriages". You are an incredible writer. I enjoyed this thoroughly. Blessings, J
Que rico es el amor sin color. Asi mejoramos la raza humana.
Excellent music, gracias!
Resonates from the time we adopted our African-American son.

Wonderful piece!

r.
We've come a long way. Great story, great looking family!
It was folks like you who led the way. My 100% Italian daughter is married to a Puerto Rican man - 6 years and still together.

My Italian-German son-in-law's sister is married to a black man - both of them are lawyers and are doing just fine.

And I have a married lesbian niece!

Times have changed a lot since I was a teen in the '50s. My Italian grandma would ask my dates "ehh, what town in Italy is your family from?". She didn't expect me to bring home anything other than a nice Italian girl!

r
What a charming love story! White boys for this Chicana, too. My mother gave examples from our family of why it was not a good idea to marry a Latin man (Hispanic, Italian, French, et al.)
Deb,

I never felt any pressure when I dated latino,asian,black or white women from my family. My big concern was that a had multiple sisters that loved their baby brother and would put any pespective candidate through the ringer. I have twins one blue eyed and fair haired and the other 'brown skin,eyes and jet black hair with my big head and bum chin. I used to stand in front of my apartment (at the time) telling the high school girls (mostly black) that I was waiting for the mailman because I was going to get em. They would laugh ask to hold him and I got a few great babysitters out of it.
It seems like you got more resistance from your family and you mentioned the historical pain that might have made this less acceptable to some. I know that plays a part in many situations,marriage is difficult and let's face it, you marry a family as much as an individual-especially in years 5 and beyond.
Marriage should be purely a matter of the heart; all other factors are forced. This is one intriguing thread, Deborah. And, you guys are one good looking family. Best of luck to you. R
[r] Deborah, what an inspiring and enjoyable sharing and tribute. I remember dating across the great divide only a couple of times and naively realizing there was a lot to more to withstand than I anticipated (my assuming my values education went deep enough to appreciate everything involved -- talking the talk vs. really walking the walk -- and it is considerable and I am grateful for the lessons and the experiences). There were not so good will vibes from many sides which confused me, especially during such very early stages of trying to get closer, and sometimes from unexpected sources and sources whose business it really wasn't at all. WTF? Rrelationships get tested plenty and stress applied even with couples of similar backgrounds. Though different backgrounds may force breakthrus from the get go. Anyway, one's ideal self and ego as well as their partner's better be grounded enough to expect some rough waters and move through them to something that sounds really terrific in your case. Good for you and that wonderful family! best, libby
Great looking couple. Great looking kid too.
Interesting read. I find it impossible to understand how anyone would find any marriage(unless it was between an old man and a toodler etc) controversial. But, so it goes.
Congratulations! Enjoyable story.
Well done. Great story. Handsome kid.
There have to be difficulties in an intercultural relationship, particularly one where the difference between you is visible.

How's your son's Spanish?
Beautiful piece (and pix!), DMW! Only just "this minnit" found it and am still ?resonating? (reverberating). Hope this thread stays active for a good long time as I'm sure there are scads of us whose stories somehow intertwine with yours. Thank you for sharing all of this with us! [Yes, I know that's a cliche, but sometimes cliches are all we can grasp in an immediacy of reaction! ;-)]

R
Damn you are a good writer. Tell that ginger headed bog trotter he's one lucky SoB and to have a Guinness and Jameson for me.
... Or maybe a Modelo Negra and Cuervo Gold.
Wonderful love story weaved in with some enlightening history. I find it hard to believe that your story could raise a stir in anyone. Happy 15th!
Deborah ~ that's a wonderful story and I am so happy that you found each other and have had such a great life together. A step-uncle of mine mirrors the same type of interracial marriage you have and, likewise, he was living in the western part of the country (CA, in his case) when he found the wonderful woman he became married to approximately 32 years ago.
quite the informational dispatch from the cultural guerrilla. ps I agree. different/diverse flavors are delicious. [that comes from an old Friends episode & a quote by Joey]. on the other hand of course lets please not imagine that interracial marriages are "more special" or more advanced somehow. I mean at least not openly :p
I was married to the whitest white man in America in 1978. We were quite the attraction as we moved through Chicago's ultra-segregated neighborhoods. His parents disowned him; my parents embraced him.
Oddly enough, our mixed marriage, which ultimately failed, did not do so because of problems relating directly to race. I learned that infidelity knows no cultural boundaries.

Lezlie
Oh, hey! I just noticed the EP. Told ya. :D
Jeez. I hate that rate button!
Great post...my wife just this evening said to the boys when headed out the door, "Come on all you black people...and you too, Poppa." I get no respect around here and, after 18 years, don't think it's going to change. And I can too dance...
True love is colorblind and yours is a most beautiful love story.
This was a beautiful story of love and respect, and you told it incredibly well.
Once again, I find myself in a minority, but the 43% who think more interracial couples is a good thing is growing and will become the majority soon, I think. It's interesting how we cease to see another group as "other". Great story. Congratulations! R
James: I don't want to sugarcoat this. Our relationship has had its share of challenges, but they have not been about "race" and ethnicity. It's the usual crap: overcoming childhood traumas and the complex chemistry and dynamics that exist between all straight men and women. ... But, yes. On a lot of fronts, we claim victory.

Ande: That photo of us with our son is a few years old. He's a teenager with braces now. ... Thanks for the warm, kind comments. I have a friend who spends months in Cuba each year to do academic research, and I know it's hard to travel there unless you are a journalist or professor. But if you can swing it, you guys ought to go!

Princess: I know what you mean about looking like your parents. No offense. Two of my father's sisters married Boston Irishmen, too. I have half-Irish cousins in Boston who must be in their 50s and 40s whom I've never met!! You're right. It's been going on for decades now.

Catch-22: I heard that expression a lot in South America, about "merjorando la raza." I happen to think that mixing it up renders the whole "race" issue moot, and does result in some startling beautiful human permutations. ... Don't you just love, love, love the Black Keys?

Jon: I've seen more and more younger white couples adopting black babies, and I admire their eyes-wide-open approach to life, love and family. It takes a lot of gumption to live as a mixed family.

Triology: Thank you for your sweet comments. We have come a long way, but still have a way to go ...

Toritto: Yup. That was how we lived life in traditional communities, and there's nothing wrong with that. I can see how that might be appealing, but I just never wanted to settle down in my hometown, and I never met a guy who made me want to change to my mind!

Miguela: I love Latin American men as a rule, but I never found the boys I grew up with in the United States very appealing. They felt like brothers to me, and not lovers. And there is the issue of them wanting to dominate us in every way. I needed a man who could be my equal, my partner in life, and I only ever found that with my husband.

Jay: You're so right. The "historical pain" is still there, but not as sharp as it used to be. ... And Patrick and I know several other Anglo/Latin couples, and they are all happily married with gorgeous children. I think education and economic levels have a lot to do with predicting the success of interracial marriage. I couldn't marry an uneducated Latino just to be "politically correct." I had to marry a man who was my "equal" in nearly every way: politically, financially, intellectually, etc.
Thoth: I agree. People should come together because they have some things in common, and can embrace, admire or just put up with the things they don't have in common. ... Thank you for your sweet comments and best wishes.

Libby: I think I know what you mean about not much goodwill in some of these circumstances. It only works when the couple is committed to building a life together, and trying to respect the differences that exist in each other's families. I know my husband's parents grew to love and accept me before they died. They were good people, but products of their generation, time and place. They were both "white," but had a very unhappy marriage. So, coming from the same background doesn't always guarantee happiness, either. I adore my husband's sisters, and I know my sisters adore my husband.

Fernsy: I know. I know. It's really no one's business, unless, as you said, it involves an unbalance of power of some sort. I'm sad for all those "mail-order brides" who came to the U.S. from Russia, Asia, Latin America and elsewhere only to find that their American husbands wanted a cook, maid and sex slave. ...

Matt: Thanks!

Grif: Thank you! My son is so handsome. I can't wait to see how he develops into a young man with all the world before him.

Kosher: You know that Spanish is not my first language, right? I learned it as an adult, and my son is picking it up really well in school. We practice at home, and I'm amazed at how well he can string sentences together, conjugate verbs and pronounce things. He has a knack for it for sure, and I'd love to send him to Venezuela or somewhere so he can practice more before college.

Fricassee: Thanks! Your comment resonated with me because I know you know how complex this issue is!!

JMac: You won't believe this, but Patrick likes Bud Light and Corona! What? Right? I'm the one who has to push the "good stuff" on him. ... He is a "true" ginger, and I don't get why people make so much fun of redheads. I love them!! :)

Bernadine: Thank you!

JL: Thanks, I agree. But here in Colorado (the Old West), the color line is very sharp and bright, and the historical baggage goes way back. Hispanic/Anglo couples are still in the minority here, though you do see them.

Designator: I was single for a long time before I met Patrick, and people used to tell me, "All it takes is one good man." It's so true. All it takes is one good man, or one good woman to make a life.
VZN: Howdy, neighbor. ... No! Patrick and I don't think we're special, and I guess that's the whole point. We're just like everyone else, we just happen to come from different ethnic backgrounds. Do we have our own special set of "issues?" Yes. But it's nothing we haven't learned to overcome, accept, or dismiss as we've built our life together.

Lezlie: See, that's why my girlfriends were flipped out when I first moved in with Patrick. They were worried it was all about "chasing the exotic" for him, or that he just wanted to go in the opposite direction from his parents. They thought I was just a social reaction for him, and vice versa. But, everyone forgot about plain old love. People fall in love, you know. They just do. Sometimes it's just as simple as that. ... I'm sorry his parents disowned him, but I'm sorrier that he cheated on you.

Rob: LOL!! Remember that scene in "When Harry Met Sally" and Billy Crystal is talking about the "white man's overbite" dance? That has been the source of so much mirth and merriment in our family because my husband really CANNOT dance! I mean, he can lead me around the dance floor and make it special, but he definitely has the WMOB going on. It's cute, though. We tried dancing salsa at a club once, and I had to lead him around the floor. What we won't do for love ...

Margaret: Thank you! We've come so far for so long that all we really do see is each other. :)

L'Heure: Thank you. We can fight like everyone else, but, for the most part, we do respect and love each other.

Rod: I try to see people as "unique individuals," and look past the "ethnic" designation that has been imprinted upon them by society, but that courtesy is not always returned. To understand others, we need to live among them, to experience their reality, and see them for who they really are. That's the only way to make human-to-human connections.
Mixing it up produces some wonderful looking people - like them there Brazilians. Seems to be some interesting mixing going on in the West Indies - I know a brother and sister who are Japanese/black/white, and who look all of these and none of them - a whole new and really great look. Plus, mixing will ultimately get rid of a lot of racism...
congratulations on your happy and successful 15 years of marriage.

however, when someone says "interracial" this combination (caucasian and native american) is probably not the first thing that comes to mind.

neither does hispanic+caucasian. george zimmerman, a hispanic, just became the poster boy for white violence against blacks, after all.

again, thanks for a nice piece on your happiness.
Lovely story. And love your "sloppy," happy union!
We've got you beat (:=) I'm an Ashkenazi Jew, my wife is a Korean Convert. No issues at all vis-a-vis the interracial thing, even in the "ultra-Orthodox" community.

There, they are much more concerned with the quality of the Conversion than the original ethnicity.
I am English, Scottish, Irish, German, French, Spanish, Dutch-Jewish, Native American, and Swedish. My wife is Javanese, Bantenese, and Chinese from Indonesia. We have two cute daughters.
Bueno, como lo ha dicho catch-22 "amor sin color"

Ireland has many colors too. Dark or salt-n-pepper hair peoples especially in the "wild west" of Connacht, where some of my people come from. Black-Irish they're called. That bastard Cromwell said "to hell or Connacht", to those in Ireland who would not heed the British Crown's rules and thus remained beyond the "pale". Cut off as they were, it only served to increase the trade and interaction they already had, traditionally, on the west coast, between France, Spain (Galicia), and Morocco. There was even a famous west Irish female sea captain and smuggler dubbed "The White Seahorse", Granuaile (Grace) O'Malley, who had her stronghold on Clare Island, right there off of County Mayo, just to the southwest of Connacht and north of Galway. Beautiful area, I spent almost a year there. Many artists, writers, musicians, farmers, fishermen, drinkers, tinkers, poets and ne'er do wells, you name it.

Then, of course, there's the connection again with Venezuela and Bolívar. I'm sure you know, his personal secretary, companion in battle and later General and biographer, Daniel Florence O'Leary, born in Cork, Ireland, buried in the national Pantheon, in Caracas.

Start to really look into, and live with your fellow man, and woman, and soon the whole monocular monochromatic myopia disappears into something much more colorful and kaleidoscopic.

¡Saludos y abrazos! ~
Oh, and before I started wearing a Yomika full time, people always told me I looked "real Irish". I've been asked if I'm a Cahane (I missed a golden opporunity for word play between Cahane/Cohen), people have spoken Irish to me and it royally annoyed my ex-mother-in-law, maiden name of Dowd.

Finally, John Paul II was the spitting image of my Grandfather. Put a real Yomika on him and a Tallis, no one would have batted an eye in Shul. I wonder if I share some genetic inheritance with him...
A wonderful story of your love, I enjoyed this so much! I must admit though, while I read all of your post, I got the most out of the smiles in your photos -- what a nice-looking family you are : )
My husband and I also celebrate 15 years married this year...last month.
Woohoo!
I am so glad for you, I know how it is to be the one you love, and be loved back, and this feeling to me, is just the meaning of Life. The closest I got to marriage, is having the licenses to be married granted, (the rest,is a hard story) but in my heart, I was married with the one I loved, from day one. I am glad to meet and read you, beautiful family!!!
Great to read this love story and the photos are wonderful! I was happy to see that El Chapultepec is still standing, the last time I was in Denver, considering how the neighborhood around it has changed.
Myriad: I agree! Mixing things up will, eventually, stop racism, but probably not bigotry. The human race seems to have a propensity for drawing lines in the sand and building fences. But I'm doing my little part to break down those fences ...

Jinks: As a Latina, I'm already "racially mixed" to begin with, and so are you. I read somewhere that 90 percent of all African Americans, if not more, have white ancestry. So do most Latinos. But we have African, Native American and Jewish ancestry as well. Through our Spanish ancestry, some of us even have Gipsy, Arab and Celtic ancestry, too. True be told, humans are already very mixed, and this mixing has been going on for centuries. It's here in the United States, where we've created this bizarre racial hierarchy based on artificial terms such as "black" and "white" that things get really politicized. The setpoint for racial discussions in our country has been stuck on the black/white dichotomy for far too long. This country has been diverse from day one, and has always had "brown," "yellow" and "red" people, too. So, the interracial discussion needs to include everyone. Also, what is a "caucasian?" Can anyone explain that bizarre term? It is completely meaningless to me. It sounds like an arachnid classification.

Lea: And things do get sloppy sometimes! ;)

Stephen: Sweet! I'd love to read your story.

Surazeus: You go man! You're obviously ahead of the curve, too!

Inverted: Oh, yes. I love the stories of Daniel O'Leary and Bernardo O'Higgins, two Irish guys who helped Latin America in its fight for independence from Spain. My husband's grandfather was from County Cork, and I had a good friend from there long ago. You captured my feelings with so much beauty with these words: "Start to really look into, and live with your fellow man, and woman, and soon the whole monocular monochromatic myopia disappears into something much more colorful and kaleidoscopic."

Just Thinking: Woo-hoo! Congratulations to you guys, too! :)

Stathi: Oh. I would love to hear more about the love of your heart.

Sophie: Inspired by this blog post, my husband and I are going to celebrate our 15th anniversary in November at, you guessed it, El Chapultepec!! Boy, if the walls in that place could talk ...
Congratulations on 15 years. This is a wonderful love story.

I hope you don’t think people in the Midwest are racist or backwards in their thinking. 11% interracial marriage is pretty amazing. Using 2011 statistics for Iowa there was an approximate total population of 3,062,309 with 93% identifying themselves as white. My math is not very good, but that leaves about 214,362 people identifying themselves as non-whites.

I’m not sure what all this means with a minority population of 7% and an interracial marriage of 11%. I do think when looking at overall numbers we have to be careful. It looks bad when the Midwest drops to 11%, but is it really?

I would like to think we don’t see colors, but when nearly everyone around you is white it is difficult to know the answer.
Congratulations on your anniversary.
Variety is the spice of Life...Here's to keeping things spicey! Myself, as a young person I dated white, native American, Chinese, Japanese, and Latino guys...especially after my best friend in high school spread a rumor that I was secretly seeing a mutual friend who was half black and "ruined" my reputation in my Southern town, so white guys wouldn't even talk to me. Ultimately, I found that it was white guys I didn't see eye to eye with, and I have never been closer to anyone than I am to my Mexican born husband. Who needs racial boundaries? Spice...that's what I'm talking about...
"Also, what is a "caucasian?" Can anyone explain that bizarre term? It is completely meaningless to me. It sounds like an arachnid classification."

Oh Deb, that is the funniest thing I've read in ages -- I snorted tea !
(and I also agree -- it rolls off the tongue like a cat with a hairball : ))
This is a true love story, a true wish for most of us, gongratulations and many wishes, for your anniversary.
Congratulations! On another great post, but more importantly, on 15 years of marriage. Best wishes to you and your lovely family.
By what standards do you claim that your marriage is "interracial" as opposed to merely inter-ethnic? Strangers who look at you and your husband see just another white couple.

Loving v. Virginia would not have directly affected you since FDR's administration took great pains to have all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans declared "white" regardless of color or ancestry.

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Rennis: No! I don't make assumptions about an entire geographical/demographic region, especially not based on statistics! It sounds like the entire country is making progress.

Sheila: Thanks! Officially, it's not until November!

KC: I hope I didn't give the wrong impression about Latin men. I love Latin men, but they really haven't loved me back. So happy for you and your amor!

Just Thinking: Lol ... well, it's true!

Olga: So sweet of you. How do you say "thank you" in Greek? :)

Jen: Thank you for your kind words and best wishes.

AD: I hope I can do justice to your question. It's important. I guess the whole point of my post was to question the entire concept of "race" to begin with. Who's to say what "white" is? Or "black?" Or "brown?" Or "yellow?" Or "red?" It's all relative. There have been times in my life when I have been accused of not being "white" enough. There have also been times in my life when I have been accused of not being "brown" enough. I guess your inquiry falls into the latter category. Because the focus of "race relations" in the United States has mostly centered on the white/black dichotomy, many Americans view multiracial Hispanics with suspicion. I feel like you want to take the racial discussion back to that setpoint. It always has to be about whites and blacks.

This country has never known what box to put Hispanics in. We carry European, American Indian, African, Jewish, Arab, Gipsy and other ethnic blends in our DNA. Very few people of "Latin" or "Hispanic" extraction are purely this or that. By definition, we are mestizos, or racially mixed. It means that somewhere in our family closet people had to cross the color line to make us who we are today. Yet, it's been said often, and it's true: "Hispanic" and "Latino" are not "racial" designations. They are cultural designations. Hispanics can look like anything. We can't be squeezed into the Anglo American concept of "race," which is a throwback to the colonial era. Most Hispanics/Latinos are a mixture of two or more "races" (if you believe in the concept of race). ... In the end, I did not invent the term "interracial," but, believe me, as someone who has grown up Mexican American in the U.S. Southwest, we are not seen as "white," no matter what FDR did or didn't do. However, I will concede that the U.S. Census and hospitals have classified Mexican Americans as "white" at least since the early 20th century. The whole concept of classifying humans like that is just plain bizarre to me.
"It always has to be about whites and blacks."

Who says? I've spent many years pointing out that Hispanics are also multiracial. It makes no sense to say that Anglos and Louisiana Creoles of mixed ancestry should be subject to hypodescent or accused of "passing for white" while even the darkest Hispanic gets a free pass.

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What an insightful and charming account Deborah. I was especially curious about how your mixed marriage has gone down with the some of your own background. That Malinche comment sounds like one of those passive-aggressive remarks, assuming a lot re the passivity. I expect that before long mixed marriages will be more the norm than the exception and that should cause the almost subtle resentment to dissipate.
Great retrospective on your interracial marriage, Deborah.
A happy family let us admire.Things have not always gone perfectly.But all will be better,right?
I loved this too! My husband has a department that is comprised by people involved in interracial relationships. He has told me that for the past ten years many of his younger employees were bi-racial and that that is the new norm in advertising. He is half Arab and Scottish (like Paula Abdul).
I think this must be said - 1. Something that 25% of people of the same ethnic/racial heritage are also doing is not "taboo". Your own statistics you cite show that 1 in 4 hispanics marry interracially. 2. Why is it that you don't consider two people of the same ethnicity/race being married to be "colorblind"? It seems like you're on your high horse patting yourself on the back for being "colorblind" while also casting down judgment on the "un-colorblindness" of others you don't even know. 3. This article itself makes the case of your own self-awareness of being in an interracial marriage, in a mostly self-congratulatory manner, and doesn't seem like you're truly "colorblind" - you're aware of you and your husbands color and exploiting it.
Now that the fecal out pouring of praise has been effectively valved off by al bonix...
I have to credit al bonix for his bravely honest assertion above. Jinx also politely raised a good point. Deb is multiracial ( part Spanish ), husband is not. You two really are not that different looking. Is Hispanic a race anyway ? In my opinion your union is more akin to inter-ethnic.with less cultural and social construct conflict than say a negro/oriental union. I can relate to the shit Mexican men woud give you on the street. I took that all the time when I was with an African American gal. Believe me we were a sight to see back in the 1980's ! Nobody would look twice at you two in Pittsburgh today. We have a very eclectic diverse population.
I was endeared by your happiness and wish your family the best.
AD: You're right. It doesn't make any sense, and I don't believe that "even the darkest Hispanic gets a pass." I live in the U.S. Southwest, and the historical racism against Mexican Americans and Hispanos (who have lived here since the 1500s) has not gone away. In fact, because of new waves of Mexican immigrants (illegal and legal) has spurred a new era of hatred, especially in places like Arizona. Do you live in the South? Your references about Hispanics getting "a pass" probably apply more to Cuban Americans and new South American immigrants, who don't have the long history in the U.S. that Mexicans have.

Abra: Two of my aunts married Boston Irishmen, several of my cousins are married to Anglos, and at least one of my nephews married an Anglo girl. My daughter married a blond, blue-eyed boy from Florida, and they have given me a beautiful grandson. Based on my family history alone, it does look like things are changing in our society. Also, my maternal grandmother was obviously racially mixed (Anglo/Hispanic) and married my very brown grandfather (Spanish/American Indian) and my paternal grandfather looked Anglo/Hispanic, but his wife was of Pueblo Indian origin.

Grace: Thank you!

LoveSneakerOut: Quite right! Thanks!

Snarky: I think your husband is on to something ... :)

Al Bonix: The absence of having said something does not mean that I believe it to be true. Just because I claim that my husband and I are happy and color blind, does not mean that I believe that other couples (whatever their ethnic/racial persuasion) are NOT happy and color blind. I can write only from my experience and perspective, and my essay was not meant to condemn anyone else for any other reason. Please don't leap to wrong conclusions, or try to read nefarious meanings into everything I wrote. Yes, we are aware we are in an interracial relationship, but we chose to live this life anyway. We are colorblind toward each other. It is society that reminds us that we are different when we are out and about in the wider world. Finally, because I choose to reflect on the way we live our lives, and celebrate our family, does not mean I am being exploitive or self-congratulatory. As I noted in the essay, and in many of my follow-up comments, our life together has not always been easy or perfect.

DavyBoy: Are you and Jinks trying to say that societal prejudice only applies when the external differences between a man and woman are more obvious? ... I'm not here to argue degrees of prejudice, just to use my experience as a jumping off point for this discussion.
In all due respect, you did express a view wherein you judged what is/isn't a "color-blind" society based on what percentage of people that marry outside of their ethnicity.

"That is far above the 3.2 percent reported in 1980, but still far too low to celebrate color-blind love in our putative “post-racial” nation, sociologists say."

I don't think I am leaping to wrong conclusions based on how you used statistics to express your views. 10% of all marriages, 18% of unmarried straight and 21 % of unmarried gay are in interracial relationships, and you don't feel that is enough to celebrate color-blind love. In other words, you believe there should be more interracial relationships before you would see things as being color-blind.

If, in fact, you believe there should be more interracial relationships/marriages, how can you maintain that you are color-blind? Would the color-blind thing to believe is that there need not be more of one thing or another, but simply acceptance of the choices people make?

Also, I really don't think I jumped to any wrongful conclusion in saying that your article gives the impression that you view same race/ethnicity couples as not being color-blind, being that you want to see less of them, based on your article (Marriage is a zero sum game - to have more of one % of something, you will have to have less of another).
Deb,
.. Not that social prejudices "only" exist for the most obvious contrasts. There certainly are degrees. I would let Jinx speak for herself.
This is gorgeous - as are you and your husband. I agree that it seems ridiculous that anyone would blink an eye at you two getting married. I hope one day soon we see gay marriage that way. R!
Al, with all due respect, my head exploded when I read your last comment. Huh? It was a prime example of doublespeak. ... I can't argue with you anymore. I believe people should be able to fall in love with whomever they choose, as long as both are consenting adults. My husband and I did it, and we're glad we did. Thanks for reading, and I wish you a lifetime of happiness. Peace.

Davy: I'm not disputing that there are degrees. But, think about this: Who gets to decide the degrees and to what extent?

Jaime: Thank you! And, as someone who has had two gay brothers, I agree completely! It's no one's business when two people fall in love and want to get married. Religious and personal biases should not dictate the happiness of others. It's time for humanity to progress, not regress. Cheers!
I am more than a little stunned at the commenters trying to put qualifiers on "inter-racial." Give me a break.

...and I, for one, read your lovely post more than once and found absolutely nothing that resembles this:
"Also, I really don't think I jumped to any wrongful conclusion in saying that your article gives the impression that you view same race/ethnicity couples as not being color-blind..."

I appreciate your story, Deb, it deserves the EP and cover, but mostly, your story is a celebration of love finding its way, just as any healthy long-term relationship is.
I'm so glad I had the chance to read it. : )
Choosing not to engage is one thing, claiming I'm using 'doublespeak' is another. Everything I've said follows a clear path of logic, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. Good day.
OK. Al, I'll take the bait. ... Let's dispel any wrong notions on MY part (because I can't speak for anyone else. All I can do is defend myself):

--I DO respect people's choices. That's what this whole post is about - people having the right to marry whomever they want, regardless of skin color, religion, gender, "race," or national origin.
--I DO think we need more interracial marriages, but it does not mean I reject, demean or begrudge anyone else from marrying anyone of their choosing. I celebrate and appreciate anyone who finds love and spends a lifetime building a life with that person. I could have married a man of any racial/ethnic background, I just happened to fall in love with my husband.
--Why do I think we need more interracial marriages? Because it would help render the whole painful, hateful issue of "race" moot in our race-obsessed society.
--Do I think we need to have a certain percentage of interracial marriages to reach a color-blind, post-racial society? No. I don't believe in having a nanny state or a society that polices what is and isn't acceptable. I don't believe in quotas of any kind.
--Am I completely color blind? No. How could I be? Society keeps reminding us that we are "different."
--People of color did not create or ask for the system we have in place in this country. Institutionalized racism was not created in a vacuum. It is a response to slavery, the slaughter of millions of American Indians by Europeans of all stripes, and other aspects of our very real and painful colonial past. We live with the vestiges of all of these issues to this day. They have not disappeared. To heal and get past these schisms and scars, we need to stop seeing each other as racial categories.
Just Thinking: Thank you!! You really get it. I found my story on Huffington Post, too, and you should read the conversation there!! It's obvious this is an issue that still bothers people and gets them stirred up. Thanks for your support. :)
I grew up in Honolulu - a mixed bag of races. When I moved to the mainland, I didn't understand what the fuss was about. If anything the white folks were picked on, which was what I gew up with!

Thanks for shedding light on this subject.

What a lovely famiy and piece this is!
Christine: Thanks! But I deplore white folks getting picked on, too! Bottom line, no one should get picked on for immutable features they had no choice over!! :)
Deb, sorry if I keep coming back too much -- I'm fascinated. : )
When I read this part below, I was reminded of going to see Bruce Cockburn many years ago and what his commentary was about the slaughter of Native Americans and the prevailing "white"/European attitudes when they landed on these shores:

You wrote: "--People of color did not create or ask for the system we have in place in this country. Institutionalized racism was not created in a vacuum. It is a response to slavery, the slaughter of millions of American Indians by Europeans of all stripes, and other aspects of our very real and painful colonial past. We live with the vestiges of all of these issues to this day. They have not disappeared. To heal and get past these schisms and scars, we need to stop seeing each other as racial categories."

Mr. Cockburn's discussion was about this very moment in history and he said some amazing things I've never forgotten. I paraphrase wildly while remembering his words:
"But I eventually found it pointless to put all the anger and blame on this race of whites who behaved so badly when they got to the Americas. Those people were fleeing the very abuses they eventually committed to others when they came to America -- they came from many generations of bigotry and persecution themselves, so how do we expect them to have been enlightened people when they arrived here? It's well known how a traumatized soul often replays the evil enacted upon them..."

While lots of arguments can be made here about how terrible the "whites"/Europeans were to Native Americans and every other race, as well as to each other, I've always tried to remember how bad it was in Europe before, when I think in shame of what has been perpetuated for so many generations.
Even the name for the Slavs of Central Europe is the origin of the word "slavery," for the Holy Roman Empire's practice of making the Central European tribe slaves after their capture. In England then they'd hang you for being Catholic while everywhere else in Europe they'd hang you for being Protestant, the Jews were abused and run out of everywhere, Gypsies, the dark vs pale skin between various European tribes...on and on. It's no wonder Europeans arrived in the Americas and continued on in similar fashion -- not that I condone or accept or understand entirely, but since that day when I listened to Mr. Cockburn, I've tried to understand more....
....and even this illustration is so simplistic.
The abuses toward other humans began way before the Colonial era, and way before "Columbus."
Just thinking: Yup. We're on the same page. The only way to move forward is to build upon the ashes of all of humanity's darkest chapters. The whole notion of "white guilt" is embarrassing. We gain nothing by shaming people into understanding their fellow human beings. Don't pity me. I don't pity myself, only those who can't move forward.
As an Irishman whose daughter is married to a Latino, I salute you. And I note happily that I always forget that hers is an interracial marriage until I hear someone discussing interracial marriages. I consider that progress, so I'm probably on your husband's optimistic side!
Cranky: I salute you, too! Hope your daughter and her hubby have many, many years of happiness together. :)
To al bonix – I think you’re reading the “color-blindness” too literally. I took it to mean that one sees beyond the color or ethnicity to qualities disclosed by the other’s character and personality. That is, you don’t let your decisions get molded according to the other’s color or ethnicity. I’m mixed Nordic/British and I married an Argentine with some native heritage in her background. Of course we were aware of the others’ looks. Color-blind in this sense doesn’t mean you are unable to discern someone’s apparent ethnic background.
Well, what a story. Of love and of conquering societal dictates. Done with such verve and style.

And you two look absolutely perfect together.
A bit fat congratulations to both you and your husband! This post is a very beautiful gift to him, I believe, as well as a summing up and celebrating all you have shared. I love the Old West photo, BTW. There's a studio in Ouray that does those. Funny, but growing up in Oakland in the 1950s I viewed blacks and Asians as different "races" but not Hispanics. Unless they looked black, like Roberto Clemente and Juan Marichal. Then I thought of them as "Spanish-speaking black people." But Latinos/Hispanics, like Italian-Americans and Jews, were not "different" in my mind. I ask myself if that means I was free of some aspects of racist perspectives or was I just ignorant of signficiant cultural variations? Anyway, beautiful post and congratulations on your anniversary--and for that matter, on your life. [r]
Great story, an amazing family photos!
Great story, and amazing family photos!
White people are called Caucasian based on a theory that white-skinned, light-eyed people evolved in the Caucasus Mountains between the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea. Ancient peoples migrating from Africa to Sumeria were generally red-skinned with black hair and black eyes.

Groups that migrated into the Caucasus Mountains found a mountains, cloudy environment. So the people who had lighter skin and lighter eyes survived better in the cold, snowy, sunless environment because their skin could soak in sun rays better, and their lighter eyes could see better on cloudy days, so they had more children. Also people with long, thin noses could better breathe the frosty air.

On the other hand, groups of people in North Africa who had darker skin, black eyes, and wider nostrils survived better in the blistering hot environment of the Sahara desert, so the people with very dark skin had more children.

Thus the white people of the Caucasus spread out all across Russia and Europe, whereas the black people of the Sahara spread out all across Africa.

Thus whites are Children of the Snow, and blacks are Children of the Sand.
I don't know how I missed this, but the EP was well deserved. I saw a computerized picture of what we will look like as a race in 50, 100 years. A beautiful light tan, with big semi-slanted almond eyes. If we can get past our prejudices and get there, we are going to be a beautiful race of people. We are now, in reality, but the bigots turn us ugly and hateful. Great Post and thank you for friending me~
DEBORAH!! What a beautiful-and very generous love story.
I felt your heart leap off the computer screen. You have created an enviable, yet encouraging life. One that most people dream of. Thankyou for sharing--the pictures tell it all! RATED
The whole discussion of race is weird where I live. In northern New Mexico we recognize Hispanic, Native American, and Anglo. To us black people are white. LOL
Abra: Well said. Thank you for adding to the conversation, and for the clarification.

Mary: Thank you!

Donegal: Here's the weird thing, and some might think I'm being insincere about this, but when you live in the Spanish-speaking Caribbean for awhile, you stop seeing people's ethnic origins, and just see them as whole humans from the same country. I kid you not! Of course, you don't seeing their skin color and other physical features, but those details take a backseat to other dimensions. There's something missing here in our country that does not allow for that. I can't explain it. It has to be lived to be understood. ... Thank you for the good wishes!

Selda: Thanks! Gracias!

Surazeus: Thanks for the overview. I had some inkling, but have never had it explained like that. But, I still don't think it makes much sense in the Americas. Whether people want to admit it or not, we are already very racially mixed as a nation. Look at how many "white" people have American Indian heritage, and "black" people, too. Look at how many "Hispanic" people have white and black heritage. Those old terms are going to have to fade away eventually. Don't you think?

Scanner: Hispanics have been saying it for years: Humans are going to look Hispanic in the future. That's why we don't get all the delineated "races" portrayed in Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. :)

Jacqueline: Thank you for such a sweet comment. You made my day! And my husband's, too!

Miguela: Lol ... I totally get that. It's the same deal in southern Colorado, which is part of the "chili" belt in the Southwest. When I first met my husband I had to explain to him that he was "Anglo" and not "white" (used mostly in the African American community) or "Caucasian" (used mostly in the Asian community). :)
Happy 15th to you and your sweetie.
While all the various races of the Earth are mixing more in our global community here in the United States, I am afraid that over the long run, the lighter skinned people may survive better in the north cloudy lands, while darker skinned people may survive better in the south sunny lands. Technology is helping people of any race survive pretty much anywhere in any environment, but the natural environment of a place may tend to have a long-term affect on molding the characteristics of people who survive best in that environment.
Housing, nutrition, and clothing go a long way to help people of any skin tone to live well in any environment. Dark-skinned people died off in cold, snowy environments because predators could spot them easier, they could not see dangers, and their skin was not able to soak up sunlight. Now there are no predators everywhere in a hostile land, and food with vitamins such as orange juice is easily available to consume. Light-skinned people died off in hot, sun-drenched environments because they got skin cancer, and their light eyes were blinded by the excessive light of the sun. Now we can wear protective clothing and sun glasses. The only real reason for Muslim women to wear the head-coverings was to protect their lighter reddish and often paler skin from the blistering sunrays in the Middle East, a practice that would be practical in the southern parts of the United States.
The main argument of the book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond is that physical environment has a lot more to do with technological devleopment of a group of people who are merely lucky to live in that landscape rather than any asset of a particular race. People of the Fertile Crescent and Europe developed civilization because cows and wheat provided a lot more muscle power and nutrition for people to be able to pursue technological innovations, whereas rice in China and corn in the Americas does not provide half as much nutrition as wheat, so people had to spend all their time just raising crops.
Enjoyed this! Was a little surprised to hear you call a Hispanic/Latino-Anglo marriage "interracial." In census terminology, "Hispanic" can be "any race."

I lived in San Antonio for 35 years, and there inter-ethnic marriages have been common and unremarkable for some time. This may be one of the few areas in which Texas is culturally "ahead" of the rest of the US.

Best wishes to you and your family!
Belinda: Thanks!

Surazeus: All very interesting stuff. Thanks for fleshing it out for us, no pun intended. :)

Daniel: Thanks. I "get" what you are saying about Latinos/Hispanics, but I know for a fact that I have American Indian ancestry (Pueblo), Spanish, and maybe other European and Sephardic Jewish ancestry. I'd like to take a DNA test someday to prove conclusively all of my ethnic heritage. The bigger questions that beg answering:

--What is "race" anyway?
--Why is it necessary to classify humans by "race?"
Yes Deb... the "Species of Man"...as it were.
But don't relax just yet....
Evidence from studies of nuclear and mitochondrial DNA extracted from Neanderthal fossils and humans points to fascinating hypotheses concerning the types of interbreeding that occurred between these two species. Humans and Neanderthals share a small percentage of nuclear DNA. However, humans and Neanderthals do not possess the same mito­chondrial DNA. In mammals, mitochondrial DNA is exclusively maternally inherited. Taking into account an understanding of interspecific hybridity, the available data leads to the hypothesis that only male Neanderthals were able to mate with female humans. Only the progeny of Neanderthals and humans, then female hybrids would survive, but male hybrids would be absent, rare, or sterile. Interbreeding between male Neanderthals and female humans, as the only possible scenario, accounts for the presence of Neanderthal nuclear DNA, the scarcity of Neanderthal Y-linked genes, and the lack of mitochondrial DNA in modern human populations.
The human population here being European exclusive of Oriental,
Asian or Negro where no nuclear Neanderthal DNA is evident.

Thought this might be of interest. What it suggests and is highly controversial is, we are not all the same......
DavyBoy: Not quite sure what the point of your last comment was, and I used to do science writing at the University of Colorado. Thanks.
An all-encompassing and provocative read. You have a casual way of reaching out and conveying your message to your reader. We have come a long way...let's hope it continues in that direction!
I was musing over this recent discovery of Neanderthal DNA found in the human genome. It means that human migration "out of Africa" encountered the Neanderthal ( in what is now Europe ) successfully mated and produced hybrids. Is that good or bad? I have no clue. It simply means that there are now questions being raised that challenge the existing scientific evidence on the development of homo sapiens.
You mentioned above you would like to have DNA testing to discover your roots. Which reminds me of the old St. Patty's day joke. Variation....... Do you have a little Neanderthal inya? no.... Would you like some? :)
A great, romantic story -- of our nation's history, really, as well as that of an individual family. I suddenly want to create a Guinness stew that contains chilis! I just know it would be delicious.
@DavyBoy: I've learned never to use the term "little" when talking about men ... lol ... I think the resulting hybrids were probably good because they made people stronger. Aren't hybrids supposed to be stronger? Doesn't cross-breeding lead to stronger specimens? At least in theory. Which is why we can't go around marrying relatives. There is a lot of exciting work going on right now in anthropology and other fields, and experts are just now scratching the surface on what the origins of humanity are and what they truly mean. I'm following the work of Matt Sponheimer, an anthropology professor and early-human researcher at my alma mater. He and his colleagues have delved into some fascinating stuff in recent years. Thanks for keeping the conversation going - and interesting!
Beth: Hear, hear! Thanks!

Bellwether: That sounds quite good, actually. I wasn't raised in the hardcore Mexican culture because my family has been on THIS side of the border for so many generations (going back to the 1700s), so I can't suggest any recipes. However, I've read and heard anecdotal evidence that Mexicans eat chilis with everything, including dessert. Beer with a bit of a kick sounds revolutionary!
ha: "the usual crap: overcoming childhood traumas and the complex chemistry and dynamics that exist between all straight men
and women. ... "

well, we only learned to really love each other , like, 50 yrs ago, yes?
some would say, no no love has always been there,
but i say, well, maybe,
but not in close proximity like today.

old days had daddy, the fabled patriarch, in the fields
or in the courts of the empire testing
delicious masks ,
but that was the .ooo1 percent, the court people.

now everyone is a king or queen.

royalty is something we americans are solidly against.
except for kate and william.

and our celebrities. our pantheon of pagan gods and goddesses
who are exaggerated
versions of us.

no, a savvy man knows he must serve his queen.
this is the time of chivalry, for the woman is otherwise engaged
either to another man or to a dying worldview
or to her own demons
or just man hate.
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I think the more we intermarry, the more elevated the society will become. Breaking down racial and ethnic barriers is a pathway to progress. As our racial identities recede into the background, we can more easily focus on what we have in common. The more we focus on what we have in common, the more we can expand our sympathies, and focus our concern on others, where it can do the most good. Looking for cheapest auto insurance in Florida?