Andrew Strempler was arrested in Florida last week, yet very few people outside of Canada know who he is. Strempler was one of the first Canadians that dared offer cheaper drugs to Americans by operating a cross-border online pharmacy. Presently Andrew is facing charges in Miami related to the sale of foreign and counterfeit medicine, according to Huffington Post.
Strempler was the founder of the online drug dispensary RxNorth.com and then sold it to competitor CanadaDrugs.com in January of 2008. The 38-year-old online pharmaceutical pioneer appeared in Miami federal court last Thursday and faces up to 20 years in prison for each of the charges against him.
The Canadian pharmacist could be also forced to pay $95-million dollars of what the USA FDA alleges are the proceeds from his crime.
The FDA's problem is that they claim most of the Canadian drugs came from other countries. Strempler responded that “it was just one more ploy to prevent cash strapped Americans from getting cheaper drugs outside the US”.
So who is actually helping who?
Each morning when one of the 49% of Americans who are on some sort of prescription plan open their medicine cabinet, the last thing they think about is where it was made. The American public has no idea that 40% of all drugs they use actually come from overseas, and approximately 80% of the active ingredients used to make these drugs come from foreign countries like Thailand, China and India.
No matter how hard the FDA argues, there really isn’t any difference between Canadian drugs and those sold in the US when it comes to quality. Surprisingly, some of the drugs sold in Canada are manufactured and shipped from the US and later repacked for the Canadian population. In Canada it's mandatory that each prescription has an expiry date, unlike the US where in some states, that information isn't required by drugstores to be disclosed.
Let's face it Canadian drugs are cheaper than those of our neighbour south-of the-border because the Canadian government regulates them and even puts a ceiling on the amount the pharmacies can charge for them. The heads of the land also monitor the wholesale prices so all Canadians can afford medication. New drugs are tested for effectiveness as compared to original ones and the provinces of Quebec and Ontario also have their own restrictions on the use of new and expensive medication.
There are lower liability costs in Canadian pharmaceutical companies because Canadians are not litigious by nature and awards and damages are lower and have ceilings. Canadian online pharmacies require a prescription and are dispensed with genuine drugs that are safe and effective from licensed pharmacists. The drugs are cheaper simply because they are not being controlled by huge health-care and pharmaceutical companies.
Wonder how large the differences are?
Diovan for High Blood Pressure
USA- $73
Canada-$40.00
Lipitor (atorvastatin) to lower cholesterol
USA-$86.00
Canada- $51.00
Most people have no idea that the popular drug Lipitor is actually made in the Dominican Republic under FDA regulations, not manufactured in the US. The generic version is now being made in India.
On the CBC News online site a former pharmacist had an interesting story that he posted in the comments section. The gentleman was a former employee of a Canadian internet pharmacy that was providing low cost drugs to American seniors who were fed up paying 2-3 times more, unlike Canadian retirees.
His employer purchased their drugs from the very same wholesalers that the FDA-accused Strempler and Canadian drugstore chains buy them from. In 2006 the FDA declared that some of their shipments to the U.S. were illegal because the labeling was done in French and English, which is mandatory in Canada. They also decreed that it did not contain a FDA number but it did have the Canadian DIN on it, which is Canada's Drug Identification numbers. In reality it had nothing to do with the quality of the drugs; just another loophole to stop cross-border business.
He also wrote that any Canadian drugstore going over their Pfizer drug quotas allegedly had their business put on hold until they could prove that none of their products were being exported to the US. This was the exact same time that the FDA began to have issues with Mr. Strempler in 2006. The commenter ended by saying that Mr. Strempler was honest and dedicated to his patients and that his only fault was success and going up against the monopoly of the pharmaceutical monsters.
After continued pressure from both sides of the border Strempler agreed to the removal of his name on the Manitoba Pharmaceutical Association registry. Not happy with the proceedings he began operating in a free-trade zone in Curacao, located in the Caribbean. Strempler was finally deported from Panama this week, taken into custody by U.S Marshals and flown to Miami. Of course the FDA will not comment on the arrest but warned the public to be careful with online drug purchasing.
Consumers are told they should not purchase Canadian, or drugs from overseas because they aren't as safe as the American made, yet most ingredients are imported. The idea that Canadians are buying unsafe drugs in their pharmacies is just too ludicrous to discuss. According to Consumer reports 48% of Americans cut health care costs by either declining doctor's visits, tests or ordering drugs online. Seeing that is an increase of 9% since 2010 why are the health care giants bent on keeping prices for the U.S. customer artificially high?
Americans are dying because they cannot afford their life-saving drugs so how dare a foreign country like Canada give Americans a break on their prescription drugs. Find me anyone in public office that does not have good insurance plan that covers their prescription drug needs, unlike much of the long suffering American public.
After I wrote this I sent the draft to two of my American friends. One said it was interesting and the other said he knew most of the content. This made me angry, because if you understand what is going on and are interested- where is the outrage? It is common knowledge that Medicare Part D isn't working and the American public has to make important choices when it comes to getting their prescriptions filled.
What can be said with certainty is that these issues would not happen if Americans had been given a proper health care program. Were they to see "health care as a public service, instead of a commodity to be bought and sold for profit", as I keep reading, then there would be no desire to buy drugs online from another country or Mr. Strempler.
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Comments
Jmac.. I think it just shocks me what the public does not know
Abrawang.. I think anything for your health is priority and you should not have to go bankrupt to afford it.. yes there are other things that are more expensive in Canada but I think you can live without them
So sad that your Dad has to do that. The fact that there never is an uprising boggles my mind. People just lay down and take it.
I love it when you shake up the U.S. status quo, Linda!
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For lower costs and higher profit, they don't need all those patients to make the same amount of money. With publicly traded corporations it's not personal that more people will suffer or die, they're not in business to keep people alive, they're in it to make the most profit.
I didn't know about this story but I'm not surprised that they would find a way to punish anyone who would interfere with them making the most profit. They are willing to destroy outsiders, or each other, that's the big corporation way. Thanks for the post.
Big Pharma is in trouble, though. Their patents are running out and any company can now make cheap generic versions. I wonder how they are getting those laws changed to keep stealing from us.
Great article and a Zumapick!
Rugrat_ well said thank you
Patrick- Thank you kindly and the words Hell-Bent are the important ones here. They will do anything they can for a profit.
Bleue- it shows you how far they will go
I made this in a larger font on purpose. Most of us Boomers have a hard time reading without the bi-focals now , but need to wake up.
Seniors are suffering Boomers are on the edge. Everyone needs to read the fine print and no what is about to happen.
Thanks kind Thoth!
Zuma: I never thought about it like that but it is right. how are they getting away with it?
Money talks!
RATED.
Jon: wow you are such a radical..:)
Jon: wow you are such a radical..:)
Could you provide an example of drugs costing "2-3 times more" in the U.S.?
Your blog shows 2 drug cost comparisons but neither are even twice as much in the U.S. as Canada.
Since the main point of this post is the outrageous cost of U.S. drugs versus Canadian outlets, it would be nice to see a reputable citation of the claim of drugs costing 2-3 times more.
Thanks.
the outrage is here, spewing out in too many directions, co-opted by wolves in sheep's clothing
It's a racket. They've runCongress for years.
Sad, but so.
:(
So, are you implying that 60 or 70% or more is not worth getting in a twist over? What number would catch your attention?
Interesting article, Linda.
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People are hurting here in their decisions.
Hayley.. I agree and when will it end.
"Using the U.K. as a benchmark valued at 100, Belgium's drug prices ran at 122 in 2008, while Spain's came in at 109 and Sweden's at 116. The U.S.? According to this index, 2008 prices were rated at 252, more than 100 points higher than the second-place country, Germany, which ran at 142.
Read more: How do international drug prices stack up? - FiercePharma http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/how-do-international-drug-prices-stack/2009-12-16#ixzz1y60r6BlR
We can place the blame on sweetheart deals, Bush Medicare reform, collusion, or whatever, but the basic fact is that the pharma indistry is just one an aggressively profit-maximizing segment of the free market. Every drug company employs an army of "pricing specialists" who sit with sales data and computer algorithms that basically look at how many people will stop taking the med or buy their it from Canada, etc. if they raise the price in the US, and then calculate the net increase in their bottom line due to the higher costs for those who will still buy it. (I doubt they ever look at the effect of price decreases!).
At the center of the problem are the doctors who prescribe with very little attention to the cost of the medicine. Changing this is one aspect of Obamacare that most people can get behind.
Incidentally, most fake and substandard drugs come from China, not India. The Indian industry has done a huge benefit to developing (and developed) countries by making good quality generic drugs available at low cost, especially for HIV/AIDS.
I have an aversion to doctors and have some meds from India- weird smell but they work and are the same.
If you read the link about Medicare D that I put in.. it will tell you how doctors seldom give you generic drugs where in Canada and I know for a fact- they are first on their doling out list..
Government controls the pharmaceuticals in Canada not enterprise and guys pushing pens- which is also similar to the banks and mortgage companies and Canada also did not go down the mudslide like the poor US did.
It's called looking out for your people. Canada is not the only place that deso it. Great Britain, France etc all have similar health plans. Even Cuba for gosh sakes you can get better health care.
Such a great great country being run by the mighty big buck
http://tucsoncitizen.com/medicare/2012/06/12/medicare-part-d-are-you-being-ripped-off/
Here's what I don't understand. What is the outrage supposed to do? I've been outraged before, wrote letters to Congressmen, and got back a thanks but I'm going to do it anyway response. How do we change it?
I have a friend who had breast cancer twice and after the second time her insurance dumped her. WTH?
Is everyone just supposed to roll over and play dead?
see, we stress these goddamn old geezers out so much
they need more drugs cuz of the stress.
well, where they gonna get it ?
from the american economy, the current one and only
god on
earth.
jesus aint here to right things.
he would say,why u need them drugs, old man?
cuzza the damn stress!
i got a cure for that!
what????
me!
oh fuck off.
no i won't.
why not? i am going on an undercover mission north to get me some anti depressants cuz i am old.also maybe some
booze.
shame on you.
o go yer way.i know all about u You hippie.
what?
you & yer pot. i had to jump thru hoops with my grandaughter for that shit.
ha etc.
aint no hippie..:)
jesus aint here to right things
then where is he??:)
HUGGGGGG
Maybe it's about the precious "freedom of choice" many people invoke when they rant against socialized medicine. (I deliberately left out inverted commas because I think it is a perfectly good description for medicine that works for society). You want to choose which doctor you see? Fine, then the doctor wants the same right to choose which expensive drug she prescribes for you.
Note: if there was a real free market for healthcare, doctors would publish their med school grades online and hospitals their infection and accidental death rates.
Your blog ... your assertion. It would be nice to see a citation. Absent one, I will conclude a misinformation spread.
@ordinaryjoe
Thank you for attempting to answer the question. However, the link to the report detailing the findings does not work. All one can see is a post showing the pricing index claims.
And is the index based on a ratio-scale or interval scale? And is the index data even linear?
If you are at a cocktail party and can't remember these technical terms, just think of a person'a age as a ratio-scale and a doctor's question about pain intensity using a 1-to-10 rating as an interval scale.
The drug companies also, according to the FTC, spend ~1.2B dollars to bring a drug to market. They also have a failure rate of almost 80% when they do trials. Finally just because they put out their millions and millions of dollars and bet the odds and get it approved by the FDA that doesn't mean that the drug will be successful and profitable.
The United States has an obesity rate of 30.6%, and Mexico is 24.2%. Is it a coincidence that the two countries without socialized medicine have the highest obesity rates in the world? The United Kingdom has a rate of 23%, Slovakia 22.4%, Greece 21.9%, Australia 21.7%, New Zealand 20.9%, Hungary 18.8%, Luxembourg 18.4%, Czech Republic 14.8%, Canada 14.3%, Spain 13.1%, Ireland 13%, Germany 12.9%, Portugal 12.8%, Finland 12.8%, Iceland 12.4%, Turkey 12%, Belgium 11.7%, Netherlands 10%, Sweden 9.7%, Denmark 9.5%, France 9.4%, Austria 9.1%, Italy 8.5%, Norway 8.3%, Switzerland 7.7%, Japan 3.2%, and South Korea 3.2%. The infant mortality rate in the previously mentioned countries out of 1000 are Slovakia 7.1, United States 6.4, South Korea 6.1, Italy 5.7, New Zealand 5.7, Greece 5.3, Ireland 5.2, United Kingdom 5.0, Portugal 4.9, Netherlands 4.9, Luxembourg 4.7, Canada 4.6, Australia 4.6, Belgium 4.6, Austria 4.5, Denmark 4.5, Spain 4.3, Switzerland 4.3, France 4.2, Germany 4.1, Czech Republic 3.9, Norway 3.6, Finland 3.5, Iceland 3.3, Japan 3.2, and Sweden 2.8. Slovakia is the only country with higher infant mortality rates than the United States but in standard of living Slovakia is closer to Mexico. The infant mortality rate in Mexico is a staggering, 19.6. The average life expectancy in the Unites States is 78.06. The comparison countries in order are: Japan 82.02, Sweden 80.63, Australia 80.62, Switzerland 80.62, Iceland 80.43, Canada 80.34, France 80.59, Italy 79.94, Spain 79.78, Norway 79.78, Greece 79.38, Austria 79.21, Netherlands 79.11, South Korea 79.10, Luxemburg 79.03, New Zealand 78.96, Germany 78.95, Belgium 78.92, and Finland 78.66. Countries with a lower life expectancy than America are the Czech Republic 76.42, Poland 75.19, Slovakia 74.95, Hungary 72.92, and Turkey 72.88. Most of these countries are the bankrupt former satellites of the Soviet Union again they are more comparable to Mexico 75.84. The only aberrations are Ireland 77.9 and Portugal 77
These are the 3 main criteria that the World Health Organization uses to monitor the health of a country's populace. But I have to tell you that I am tired of jousting with words with mentally handicapped people who think they will decide the fate of the country my forefathers fought and died for. Its time for the streets of America to flow red with the blood of traitors and their illiterate fan club. I write really well but I will tell you what I do better than write. I fight and I fight really well: guns, knives, or fists. You call it. Anyway you want it your gonna lose just like all the the back shooting mobsters in NYC that came up against me. I don’t want to write anymore. I wanna settle this in the age old American tradition. Let the the last man standing write the rules for a ‘Brave New World.’
6 of the top-10 "Big Pharma" companies are foreign-owned. FYI, so let's move away from the "evil" U.S. pharmaceutical empire line.
Also, if someone does try to produce a statistic that American drug costs are "2-3 times as more" than in Canada, let's take into account generic versions of said drug(s).
My guess would be that drugs in the U.S. only cost slightly more and definitely NOT 2-3 times more than Canadian prices.
@JackHeart
1) you're scary and typical of a gun-toting, redneck asshat
2) I'll bet obesity is the lowest in Africa ... I sure wouldn't want their healthcare system ... and what does obesity rates and average-age-of-death have to do with refuting the claim in the blog author's post?
As for listing your credentials.. in the Ottawa area I can verify that there is now a Yelp sort of system that you can see what credentials they have and people comment on their service. Some of it is ugly trust me.
Joisey: I checked my links but obviously one is not working and will check them after. I suggest the comments you have you take them to your politicians. People are so easy to criticize others but put a sock in it when it comes to stuff that matters. Hence you have a society that accepts.
Catn Lion.. Funny.. you should mention that. I watched the movie The Fugitive last night and had no idea that the premise was about durg companies pushing a drug with false reports that did not work on heart patients. It has been going on forever.
Jack.. Just got up and read this.. Yowsers.. Now what chance do you think with these new generations when they take over the country?
Health Care? Brave new World?? More like 1984
Matt: agreed
Algis.. it seems to be the Robin Hood mantra
NO matter what it is- drugs are cheaper in Canada and you are being screwed in this country.
Donegal... I have never seen an ad i n Canada except for cold and headaches in Canada and in the US the airwaves are saturated.. And how about those side effects? Yikes!
This was the pharmacist comment.. COMMENT..
read this..
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/why-americans-pay-so-much-for-brand-name-drugs/
This is one granny who does buy her Rx from Canada. We have a shop that actually finds the cheapest meds - one month my Premarin may come from Canada, another from New Zealand. What would cost me $280.00 for 3 months generally costs less than $60.00. So why the difference? My meds come from countries that have socialzed medicine - and therefore they are not spending all that money for lobbying and advertising. We need a single payer system!!
On it (your link!), in really big letters and using pictures, it shows that Canadians pay 77% of what Americans pay for the top-30 drugs.
Basic math, therefore, yields that Americans pay 30% more for drugs. Not 200% - 300% more.
So now the issue turns into, why would you include a quote from a pharmacist who is absolutely wrong about his figures as it relates to USA drug costs in your blog?
I think an easy fix would be to put the word "fiction" in your tags.
Thank you again for posting this - amazing research, so well-presented. Right on.
After all- if you're not rich, or have an unexpected health emergency- its because god doesn't love you so you're poor.
It's fucking insane that Amerikkka is the only so called civilized, developed country where medical bankruptcy is both possible and common.
Sheila.. not in my lifetime
Ian.. its a travesty
Erica.. too bad some politician wont take it up
"Don't believe mass media about (this or that)!"
"Question authority when it comes to (this or that)!"
"The government is lying to us about (this or that)!"
Yet when a blogger makes a statement, the OS sheep line falls into place and accepts it without question. And applauds the blogger for his/her efforts in "outing" an issue.
Wow, just wow.
Congrats on knowing how to spell Jersey. That and a comment in a blog on OS will get you a pat on the back.
It's obvious from the frustration on your words that life ain't treatin' you so well.
Interesting comment: "I fight and I fight really well: guns, knives, or fists ... I don’t want to write anymore. I wanna settle this in the age old American tradition. Let the the last man standing write the rules for a ‘Brave New World.’"
Nice, you weenie. I'll definitely follow your words to the wise.
I see this post attracted the obligatory numbNUts comments too. They make my morning on a 'sadNess scale' - English/English meaning,well London Urban actually - of minus one to + 3 .
North American meds are now more or less safe than the British and European equiv. Care has to be taken on what is spat and what is swallowed, even with a prescription.
Just don't use the fake viagra from India - often red&black. The headaches the next day are worse than the 12 hour stiffy which makes driving impossible. Girls wot go_Clubbing swallow them with vodka chasers. Ooooow, run and run fast. Even an OS troll won't make you laRf after that..........
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