Evan Levine, M.D.

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Dr. Evan Levine

Dr. Evan Levine
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March 17
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Author of What Your Doctor Won't (or Can't) Tell You - Penguin Publishing. Fellow of American College of Cardiology and practicing cardiologist in Bronx and Westchester New York. For appointments, Dr. Levine can be reached at 914-237-1332 or VANLEV@aol.com Today Show Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63cWvtGPonU Most Articles are also featured in the Ridgefield Press and Westchester Guardian.

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JUNE 7, 2011 9:33PM

Emergency Rooms

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     Walk into an Emergency Room on a busy day. The doctors are generally very good, but they are overwhelmed, and there are patients perched in every nook and cranny. Patients are stuffed into hallways and corners (sometimes while they are lying on gurneys.) Three or four patients may be placed in a space with room for one; curtains obscure monitors that should be carefully attended.  Patients, some of whom haven’t taken — or brought with them -- their accustomed medications, and who came in hours ago, may sit or lie there -- and not be seen for many hours.  A terrified woman in the throes of a heart attack is placed next to a demented and screaming patient -- with feces dripping from her stretcher.

     More doctors and nurses could be called in, but why do that?  Its not as though an Emergency Room is a restaurant, where people can get up and leave. But even in an Emergency Room patients sometimes do decide to get up and leave - even though it may be decidedly dangerous to do so. The morale of the staff deteriorates; good and caring doctors become zombies simply hoping to make it home and somehow put what they’ve experienced and seen out of their minds.
 
     Hospital administrators sometimes show up for a moment -- to do what administrators do. They instruct harried physicians to admit anyone they can. Other administrators run to hospital floors to press other doctors and nurses to discharge anyone they can -- so the ER can admit more new patients to --
keep the money machine rolling.

     Beyond the, penny-wise, pound-foolish, tactic of hospitals not adding doctors or nurses to an ER that may be being besieged by twice or even three times the normal amount of patients, administrators often decline to interest themselves in listening to complaints or to concerns from their own personnel.

     Interviews with a variety of doctors and nurses reveals the same thing:  Nurses, because they have a union, are able to present grievances to administrations, but too often, they just get turned down; doctors who have no union, and knowing that if they complain they will be smeared by bottom-line-obsessed administrators, just swallow-it and try, sometimes against all odds, to do their jobs.
 
     In a malpractice suit, a doctor was sued for allegedly harming a patient through lack of attention. The malpractice attorney asked why the patient hadn’t been seen often enough.  Apparently the doctor’s response, explaining that the ER was dangerously overcrowded and understaffed, was met by the inevitable question from the plaintiff’s attorney; "Did you document in your note that the ER was overcrowded and understaffed, or did you complain that the ER was overcrowded or understaffed."  And again, because doctors are instructed never to document anything that may make a hospital look liable, the answer had to be, “No.”
 
     While it is the doctors and nurses who seem to be on the receiving end of much of the blame for poor Emergency Room care, it is not at all uncommon that it is the administrators, the ones who sit in their glamorous offices and count the beans, who are responsible.
 
     Imagine any other business, like a restaurant, for example, being run the way most emergency rooms are run. Imagine twice the usual numbers of patrons showing up, and some being forced to wait outside for hours, while others are escorted to tables occupied by complete strangers. In order to try to maximize profits, the size of the staff is not modified to adapt to the need – time after time. 
 
     My guess is that the restaurant would go broke, unless they were the only one in town -- and in that case, I'd bet a lot of people would just stay home and make their own dinners. But in the real world, as with any rational business, the owners would hire more staff, build a bigger space, and prosper.
 
     In the world of Emergency Rooms, however, reality is turned on its head.  Here, because there are times when the ER is not full, and times when it is exploding with three times the normal load of patients, no extra staff are hired, no more  space is provided, and because patrons have little alternative, they wait, and  wait, and wait, inside and outside the ER. Having interviewed and observed many patients and doctors over the years, I;ve seen first hand what goes on when too many patients encounter too few doctors -- it becomes the most chaotic and among the most dangerous parts of our healthcare system.

       One way to fix this mess is to create the only incentive a hospital and its administrators will appreciate-  make it very costly to hospitals who leave patients in their ER for a prolonged period of time and create guidelines that require all ERs to have a minimum ration of doctors to patients ( much like child care centers have ).

        If it costs the hospital money, when they leave patients in the ED for long periods of time, then they will find a way to fix this mess. Hospitals could open up clinics or urgent care centers ( or cooperate with urgent care centers in their neighborhood)  near the hospital  that can see non-emergent cases, EDs can actually divert patients to other hospitals when their hospital is too full to adequately treat patients, administrators can call in more doctors when some threshold is reached where a patient to doctor ratio is just too high to safely care for patients .

     As I finish writing this I feel hopeless .  With  the Anthony Weiners and Charlie Rangels in Congress   I cannot imagine that any part of our broken health-not-care system will be fixed.

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I have (knocking on wood) never used an ER. I am fortunate to be able to afford insurance, and can get to doctors before an ER is needed. I assume if I land in one, it will be in an ambulance. Otherwsie, in a non life-trheatening emergency, I'd go to the nearest emergency clinic.

If everyone had healthcare, would the ER situation improve? I think yes, because then the "just sick" could go to the doctor instead of the ER. Is that correct?
ER's are hell in many different ways.

-R-
The money is in diagnostic imaging, in screening for diseases that will never afflict the vast majority of people screened, and in treating indicators of disease (moderately elevated cholesterol, moderately elevated blood sugar, etc.). Not in treating people who are actually sick.
seems to me that bean counters, in hospital administration and health-care insurance administration, are often the problem, especially when the money needed to pay them (layer upon layer of them) is added to the cost of care. great article.
In my region in Canada we are losing our local smaller town emergency rooms in record numbers in favour of centralized hospital systems and emergency dispatch services that increase patient transfer time significantly, while, so far, not decreasing any of the other pressures upon arrival. These are situations where, as you know, minutes matter.

Thanks for upholding your values here.
Hm. Good strong mixture, albeit a damn weird one, of blatant in your face truth about emergency rooms and the need for apocalyptic overhaul of such, and
cronyism!

Maybe do the same for er's...

i want to know where to have my next nervous breakdown in case i end up 13 hours on a cot next to a cop near the entrance without food waiting for an advocate or any mental health people at all.

ah, manchester memorial hospital, manchester, ct.
the same place that didnt test my dad's pee
after yanking out a catheter the day his medicare said go
after congestive heart failure

sending him home to me

to suffer multi organ system failures
within 2 weeks, oops
Here in Palm Beach County, some hospitals are being run like restaurants. Patients can call ahead to make a "reservation," and for a fee, they can be moved to the top of the list. Not sure if they give you one of those flashing electronic devices when you arrive. Highway billboards actually show the real time wait time in the ER for the advertised hospital.

"Party of one for an appendectomy. Party of one. Last call for Party of one."
R
Hope I will never need to go to an ER these days. Love your informative posts, Dr. Evan, as always! *rated*
While in the military I worked in the hospital ER as a medic. For part time jobs we worked for the medical temp services as aides.

Because we were better trained than the normal aides we always had work. One of the places that wanted us to return was the local county hospital. Our assignment, basically make sure somebody in the lobby or on a gurney in the hall wasn't dead.
Not too long ago i went to an emergency room for a CAT scan and labs after I figured out I had kidney stones. I was treated well but my exam consisted on a blood pressure check. I recieved a bill for over 8,000 dollars than included a bill of over 1,200 dollars for a comprehensive physical exam! I recieved the most cursory of exams if you could even call it an exam and was billed for the most detailed exam possible. My insurance paid all but a $75 dollar co-pay.

When I refused to pay the 75 dollars i was sent to collection and my home was called every day for about a month. I just gave up and paid the 75 dollars. I tried to contact my insurance company about inappropriate billing but never got anywhere with that.
Have avoided ER's like the plague. Nothing but horror stories about ER's. My one experience with youngest daughter who was injured some years ago, was once of utter incompetence, dirty conditions, left alone for hours, as you said and no real medical attention, except when it came time to pay the ridiculously high bill. Unless you are bleeding to death, steer clear of these understaffed, over priced means to little medical solutions. Stay home and wait it out.
From a physician who did not wish to be identified: " Where i work there must be days where the ED is in violation of some fire code. The doctors and nurses to a great job considering the horrible conditions."
Best suggestion here is to create guidelines that require all ERs to have a minimum ration of doctors to patients ( much like child care centers have ). This goes in line with nurses unions insisting on similar conditions with their patient/nurse ratios. However, both of these attempts (that clearly benefit both patient and physician/nurse) will be attacked by the Right Wing as "Union Bullying" and "Big Government telling private business how to operate."

Operating a hospital or emergency room as a profit center is as nonsensical operating a fire department as a money maker. The principles of a free market and caveat emptor simply do not apply in most cases.

We need to find ways to bring financial incentive to areas like these to avoid the problems associated with bureaucratic roadblocks and unenthusiastic personnel. There are ways to do this and some are bring implemented in the UK. Doing this will bring us the best of both worlds and a better world for all of us.

Full Disclosure: I've been a patient in an emergency room a minimum of twenty times, maybe more. Asthma, car crashes, bike crashes, and general foolhardiness coupled with a thirst for adventure will do that to you. Also, I can recommend " The House of God: The Classic Novel of Life and Death in an American Hospital" if anyone wants to gain the doctor's perspective on patients in the ED/ER!
Best suggestion here is to create guidelines that require all ERs to have a minimum ration of doctors to patients ( much like child care centers have ). This goes in line with nurses unions insisting on similar conditions with their patient/nurse ratios. However, both of these attempts (that clearly benefit both patient and physician/nurse) will be attacked by the Right Wing as "Union Bullying" and "Big Government telling private business how to operate."

Operating a hospital or emergency room as a profit center is as nonsensical operating a fire department as a money maker. The principles of a free market and caveat emptor simply do not apply in most cases.

We need to find ways to bring financial incentive to areas like these to avoid the problems associated with bureaucratic roadblocks and unenthusiastic personnel. There are ways to do this and some are bring implemented in the UK. Doing this will bring us the best of both worlds and a better world for all of us.

Full Disclosure: I've been a patient in an emergency room a minimum of twenty times, maybe more. Asthma, car crashes, bike crashes, and general foolhardiness coupled with a thirst for adventure will do that to you. Also, I can recommend " The House of God: The Classic Novel of Life and Death in an American Hospital" if anyone wants to gain the doctor's perspective on patients in the ED/ER!
adminstrators, what can one say? nice post, and plugs.
Ive worked in customer service for a large hospital/medical center, GE Money, and Bank of America. All large companies. All just business- $ is the bottom line. All telling the customer service reps to show empathy, yet we had a required call handle time. Such a contradiction. Paid bonuses for selling more insurance, more credit, or having them spend 5,000.00 on a refinance. All just business- $ is the bottom line.