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JANUARY 22, 2012 7:42PM

The "Ancients" Were Smarter Than You Think

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When I was growing up and learning some history, I used to think that people in the past were, well, stupid.  Why didn't they realize that bleeding you made you worse, not better?  Why didn't they understand electricity?  Why didn't they figure out you could burn oil?  How come they didn't invent the steam engine sooner?  What were they; a bunch of stupes?

Then I got older and learned that it was 'way more complicated than that, and that in a lot of ways, plenty of those folks were easily as smart as "modern" folks, and in some cases smarter.  Why didn't they figure out all that stuff?  Well, partly because they didn't have the tools--calculus, for example.  But partly because you need a foundation of tech to build more tech.  It takes a while.

Lately, though, I've been watching the HBO series "Rome," and I've come to believe that we're not really smarter than those folks at all.   I think a lot of our rapid advance is due to the fact that there are just so durn many of us--if there is 1 "genius" for every, I dunno, 10 million people, well, when the planetary population is 7 billion, there're a lot more geniuses than when it was only a few millions or tens of millions, yeah?  I mean, seriously:  with the simple tools they had advailable at the time of the Romans, do you think you could make a tens-of-miles long acqueduct that would still be functional 1000 years later?  (Yeah, me neither.)

What brought this to a head for me, though, was reading about the Battle of Pharsalus which, in case you didn't know (I sure didn't) was basically Julius Caesar's decisive win, the battle that pretty much turned the Roman Republic into a nascent Empire.  After the battle--in which a greatly outnumber Julius basically kicked Pompey's ass all the way from Greece to Egypt--the people flocked to Caesar's side.  Here's how the Wikipedia entry reads: 

After Pompey's defeat former allies began to align themselves with Caesar as some came to believe the gods favored him, while for others it was simple self preservation. This mentality is difficult to understand in our modern age but the ancients took great stock in success as a sign of favoritism by the gods. This is especially true of success in the face of almost certain defeat as Caesar experienced at Pharsalus.

I read that and I thought, "Really?"  Are we modern folks really that different?  We don't say "the gods favor him;" but how many sports games have you watched where you (or the commentators) say, "They really have the momentum now!"  How is that concept of "momentum"--which when it comes to battles, sports, political races, or anything other than physics is a purely mental construct--any different from "the gods favor him"?  

Or consider the concept of "streak shooting" or "streak hitting" or "clutch performance".  Once again, this is a concept for which many, many people have tried to find a physical of mathematic basis, and failed.  But if you ask most people, they deeply believe in the concept that, say, Big Papi of the Red Sox is a "clutch performer", or that Will Clark was a "streak hitter", or that sometimes in a game a player gets "into the zone".  And I submit that there is no quantitative difference between believing that, and saying, "The Gods favor Eli Manning today."  Furthermore, given how many people felt that God was, literally, favoring Tim Tebow, where do we get off saying that  "this mentality is difficult to understand in our modern age"?  I don't think it's hard to understand at all, because we're still doing it.

Put it this way:  after Caesar kicked Pompey's butt at Pharsalus, he had the momentum, people recognized that, and got on the Caesar bandwagon.  That's how we'd put it today, in our "modern, enlightened" age, but let's face facts:  it's no different than what "the ancients" were doing.  We just say it differently, is all. 

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You're right. We're, figuratively speaking, in many instances, re-inventing that same old wheel and keep coming up with new terms for it. Excellent post.

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It goes back even further than that. How many modern men could knap flint (or even identify it) into keen edged spear and arrow tips? How many could straighten and harden a stick for use as a spear handle or arrow? How many know the right woods to use for arrows, spears, and bows? How many can start a fire with "materials at hand" in the bush? And these are skills that cave men developed and used.....Cave men!!

We, of course have a different set of skills. We can program our electronic equipment, drive cars, play video games, etc.

I wonder which skills set would best stand us in good stead when our economic system collapses.....
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I sorta believe we need to reread some classic Latin, Greek, and Hebrew
linguist
words
seem
void
The language has been 'stripped' of meaning. I believe champaign, Alka Seltzer
(not any dig)
moonshine
fresh water
Nothing else
Will redeem
Gaud. Nice.
Uplift Post.
It is `Truth.
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David McCord -
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But man must light for man
The fires no other can,
And find in his own eye
Where strange cross-roads
Lie.
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More or less to the point, when I was in Malta in a museum that held artifacts from the 8000-yr-old civilization there that long pre-dated the pyramids or anything else we generally think of as early civilization, I was fantisted to see a tea-cup and a soup ladle. Simple household items, but useful, and they were perfected way back then. If you came across those items in anyone's kitchen today, you wouldn't think twice about them...
Very interesting points!