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Linda Shiue

Linda Shiue
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I am a physician and spend my free time with my husband and kids, reading everything in sight, eating, traveling, and cooking meals inspired by my travels. These days I'm spending more time at my food blog, spiceboxtravels.com. Please visit me there and follow me on Twitter @spiceboxtravels. Disclaimer: Health information presented here is not intended nor recommended as a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions. © 2010-12 Linda Shiue. All Rights Reserved.

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JANUARY 6, 2010 9:28AM

Rat Brains and Chemistry Sets: Nonsexist Childrearing

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playing checkers

Redstocking Grandma's open call for her Nonsexist Childrearing Project led me to reflect on my upbringing and how I am raising my two young daughters.  I am someone you might expect to be rigidly and consciously raising my daughters in a nonsexist way: I  am a feminist, working in medicine, a traditionally male-dominated field.  I consider myself low maintenance in my grooming and appearance, both by choice and by convenience (there are a million other things I'd rather do with the time it would take to put on makeup of blowdry my hair, starting with sleeping). But I am also a girly girl sometimes, and my favorite colors include fuschia and purple.  I wear pants a lot of the time, but I also love to wear dresses.  I  admit that I like chivalry sometimes.  As a result, while I am thoughtful about the messages I show my girls regarding gender roles, I am not dogmatic.  My girls love to wear pink, and dresses, and I don't stop them from wearing those.  I don't stop their dad from wearing  pink and purple, either.

When I was growing up, there really was not much in the way of commercialism, and certainly very little of it was available to me.  With an older brother I shadowed, I essentially grew up playing with whatever he did.  That means I built forts, played with those little green army figures, rode bikes, collected rocks, and sometimes tadpoles.  

green army figures

But I did it wearing dresses almost all the time.  My parents, both scientists, were frugal, and that was part of the reason I never owned many dolls.  I played with my brother's hand me downs.  The one time a year my parents would splurge on things would be over the holidays, when there was a fantastic array of science related kits and toys for sale at their research institute.  I drooled over the chemistry sets, spy kits, and fiberoptic flashlights we received.  I also hung out with both of my parents from time to time in their laboratories.  

chemistry set 

I was, from the beginning, a serious child and curious student, and as a result, rarely got in trouble at school.  But one time, around 3rd grade, I was in serious trouble.  My father had brought home something interesting from work to let us have for a few days, and I had brought it to school. I thought everyone at school would be really interested in this treasure as well, but the cafeteria aides did not agree.  I guess the little glass jar of rat brains (plural), floating in formaldehyde, were not quite appropriate for me to be showing off at lunch.  Not very girly, either.

I am certain that my parents were not explicitly trying to raise me in a non-sexist, feminist way (they would not have even understood those terms, as recent immigrants).  As new arrivals, they knew the path to a better life was through education.  They made it clear that there would be no limit to the educational opportunities open to me and my brother, and no differentiation between us.  The sky was the limit, limited only by our ambition.  I never wanted to be the first girl or woman to do anything; I just wanted to be the first and the best. 

How I was raised (as a gender-neutral scientist) may explain my approach to raising my girls. I am conscious about not creating rigid gender roles for them, and in a relaxed way am trying to keep their world as gender neutral as possible.   When I was able to spend the most time with them, in their infancy and toddlerhoods, I introduced them to books, music, nature and science, as opposed to ballet and gymnastics.  It is normal to them that doctors can be female, since their mom is.  They see me cook and bake, because that is my obsession.  But they have also seen me use a drill and a hammer, and they have observed me managing the all-male team who worked on our house. Through my example, I hope my daughters are growing up unaware that many people believe that some jobs are for men, and others for women, either in or outside the home.   We are lucky to be raising them in Northern California, where most people we know are like-minded.

The one arena in which I am unbending is regarding dolls.  My daughters have babydolls, which are completely genderless (in fact, their dolls have never had proper names, but instead somewhat bland names such as "yellow baby" and "pink baby").  But I won't let them buy a Barbie, or a Bratz doll, and have gone so far as to give away those dolls when well-meaning friends or colleagues have given them as gifts.  Having these dolls just doesn't make any sense to me, since they don't resemble any normal type of human, and I have no interest in promoting an unrealistic body image.  

How has this played out?  I don't know what this indicates, but my older daughter, having gone through a Princess phase, now has a penchant for reading dry biographies.  My little one wants to be a pirate when she grows up.  But we know that none of us can isolate our kids from outside influences.  While I restrict their television watching as much as possible, you wouldn't know it from what they have learned from other kids at school.  Sure enough, from preschool age, I have heard my daughters talk about "boy things" and "girl things."

And so, I interrogated: 

"What are 'boy things'?" I asked my second grader. 

"Boy things are things like Star Wars, superheroes." she said, in the tone of, don't you know anything?  "Why did you like that stuff when you were little, Mama? Did you like Transformers? Did you watch Spiderman?"

"Well, I did that because I did everything your uncle did."

She thought for a minute.  "I like boy things! I like Pokemon and Star Wars."

"Why do you like those?"

"Because they're fun, they're cute."

"Why are they boy things?"

"Because a lot of boys like them."  (Makes sense.)

"Can girls play with them?"

"Yes!"

"What are girl things?"

"Strawberry Shortcake, Princess things, Wizard of Oz and Charlie Brown ."

"Are there girl colors and boy colors?"

"Boys like dark blue and green, like me, and girls like pink and purple and violet and yellow and red," she answered confidently.

"Why do you like dark blue and green?"

"They are pretty to me." (Again in the tone of, why are you asking the obvious?)

 

True words, from the mouths of babes.  So it seems that what my kids have figured out so far is that there may be "boy" and "girl" labels on colors, toys, and activities, but-- and this distinction is crucial-- both boys and girls can like any of these, if they want to.

So far, so good. 

 

© Linda Shiue, 2010

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So far, so superb. I have an upbringing not dissimilar to yours, except I had little brothers. I was a complete tomboy who played baseball, football, basketball. Because I was older, I was often better than my little brothers. I was obsessed with baseball and had memorized the Major League rule book. My brothers used to challenge their friends to ask me a question, I always knew the answer.

I went to Catholic school in the next town; there were no girls in our immediately neighborhood. So I was always a leader of the guys. My brilliant mother had been forced to go to secretarial school, instead of college, because her father died when she was 17. Her five brothers did go to college. She always wanted to go back and she did when the youngest of my five brothers started first grade.

I was always encouraged to excel intellectually, especially by my father. I was much more like him than my mother. I vividly remember our taking a star-gazing course together when I was 8; I read an adult book on astronomy to please him.

I too almost always wore dresses. I wore uniforms to school; I had very few casual clothes. My mother was an expert sewer and made me beautiful dreses. I love dressing up for Church--hat, gloves, heels, everything. Red has always been my favorite color.

With my oldest daughter, I was a bit more doctrinnaire about clothes. She wore pants her first three years except for very special occasions like an uncle's wedding. From about age 2 my daughters made their own clothes choices. We had lots of hand-me-downs. I longed to put a sign on Emma: I am not responsible for this child's clothing choices. She like wearing about three outfits simultaneously.

I held the line on Barbie. When Emma was 7 and got real money for her first Communion, she bought six of them. Within weeks they were decapitated, legless, drowning:)I zealously searched out nonsexist books. We gave sharing toys like blocks, legos, art supplies, chemistry sets. We lived in a Manhattan apartment with a 6 feet by 46 feet terrance. They had a wading pool and a sand table.

I was a very permissive parent about most things, but had the highest academic expectations. Rejecting the two day a week gifted program, honors classes, advanced placement classes was not an option. They were gifted with high intelligence, and it was their moral obligation to themselves and the world to develop it.

I am thrilled with the results and charmed by my granddaughter's bright red dresses. Essentially, they are raising their kids as I raised them. I kept all their picture books, and they have either appropriated them or bought the books their sisters got first.
Like you I was raise with a brother, and his toys always seemed more interesting than mine. I think it was because you needed to use your brain more to play with them. Construction kits, science sets and magnetic doodads were much more absorbing than dolls and teddies. My own daughter, an only child, also chooses climbing trees and bouncing on the trampoline over dolls.
That said, there is no denying boy/girl differences. How many married women can say, honestly, that their priorities and material desires match those of their husbands? When approaching a problem, do you both see it from the same point of view and offer up similar solutions? I venture to suggest that girls and boys are markedly different. Our brains have been designed for different purposes and despite what feminists would like to think, there are good reasons why women hit the glass ceiling: child rearing, menstruation, menopause and emotional responses. I don't say everyone is the same and, as you say, we all have a choice but I wonder why most women end up rearing the children while their husbands bring home the bacon. Is it choice or a financial trap? Would most of us like to relinquish the responsibility for our children to a man? If we use childcare, how many carers are men and if they were would we choose one?
I updated my post to link to yours.
Linda, I love it!! And I love the fact that you brought rat brains to school! I would have been equally grossed out (which is why I am not in the medical field) but equally interested. That would be SO cool to see!!

Tell your daughter I grew up loving Star Wars ... and I am as girly girl as you can get ... well, sometimes! LOL

Love this and rated!
Redstocking Grandma: great to hear about our similar upbringings, and how your daughters (and granddaughter) have turned out. I thank you again for putting this open call out there and hope to see more responses from a variety of perspectives.

Sue: I appreciate your perspective. I do think there are physical and biological gender differences manifest as how we are all "wired," but I also think that environment and in this case, parenting, can have a profound influence. There are also many individual differences- I see that in my two daughters, who between them have strikingly different preferences, personalities and inclinations. My kids have had both male and female caregivers, and I think they have benefited from having both-- in part, because they care and play with them somewhat differently.

Rebelmom, thanks! We acted out Star Wars (actually filmed it) in school and while I wanted to be Princess Leia, I think I was a Stormtrooper or something like that. Re: the rat brains and getting grossed out- I do get grossed out by most everything, but somehow it's different when it's work. So, never too late for you to enter the medical field if you are interested.