Now that everyone has generally stopped skittering like cockroaches after someone turned the light on, it's time to make our intentions clear. After our initial hissy fit about a small percentage of only our most violent pet peeves around here, we're actually aiming to improve this place. Who the hell are we to do that? Volunteers. We won't hold our breaths waiting for a commemorative mug.
Our philosophy is rooted in the idea that 7 million people could have been saved if thousands of people would have taken an objective look at how hilarious Hitler was when get got all sweaty and jabby and then started pointing and laughing.
You are not going to get crazypantsed because you missed a punctuation mark or misspelled a word. You're going to get crazypantsed when you're doing something so ridiculous that someone needs to put a helmet on you and guide you away from the sharp knives.
In that spirit, we would like to offer a word of caution. If you are over the age of 40 and are seriously considering using Craigslist to find three college boys to move in with after you leave your husband, move to the city and get a job in the same hospital you just "voluntarily" checked yourself out of - you may need more intense mental help. We're not making this up. The post was nuked, but not even we're cruel enough to call that shit out by name. If your spouse is not even phased by those statements and tells you that you will "cycle out of this" - you may need to consider alternative treatment options. Please.
Another little public service announcement - if you're considering suicide, please call 1-800-273-TALK or visit this website which has a list of suicide hotlines in each state. It seems that every Saturday night we have another round of suicide discussions. We appreciate the fact that people need to reach out. We do not appreciate being told exactly how much rent money is needed to soothe your despair.
Now for the pantsings - our first honoree was Gordon Osmond.
"If you want to plop down on rugs in public places at inconvenient times, we will mock you."
~Gordon Osmond "Message to Muslims"
His appalling argument that it is totally okay to "mock" Islam because he "equally" mocks any religion is just ridiculous. The fact that he throws his shit bombs from Brazil and looks like Hannibal Lecter's long lost "funny uncle" is just icing on the cake. Opening with the line, "If you choose to live in the United States, accept some facts and attitudes" is a lot more convincing if you're on the same continent as the United States.
Our vote for best response to this douche bag was by Jeff Howe, one of our favorite lovable curmudgeons here at OS.
You don't speak for me either."
Gordon, take off the polyester jumpsuit and try some deep breathing. We won't try to convert you to Islam if you don't try to convert us to being hateful pricks. (We're already half-way there according to most people anyway.) Sadly, there's also a comment by someone that smells a lot like Peter Lagios. We're just sayin'.
Our BRAND NEW pantsprize winner is mr. sunshine. He's been spreading his special, sticky, icky brand of love all over the site, but really topped it off with The Confession of the Penultimate Stalker. It is written to "The Universal Woman." Really, the whole thing is worth a read if you want to be nauseous for 6-8 hours and you're wearing a raincoat. But, here's a sample:
"When you smile with mouth and eyes at me I become erect.
Unprotrusablity, don't worry. I put my hand in my pocket and push it down.
I am not a pervert, and have never been accused of being one."
First of all - "unprotrusablity"???? REALLY? MS Word doesn't even have any suggestions, dude. If you're going to discuss your stiff little penis, use words that actually exist. He also may need to look up the word "penultimate."
It all sounds like a schoolboy fantasy, which we are not opposed to, until we get somewhere toward the end:
"In a sense, I am already there, mentally. I know the best things to say to make you not go off yourself.
I think that's what you want to do, and it's nice to meet a member of the club. Me too. I'd throw myself from a height, you'd take pills."
Remember, this is to the "Universal Woman." He followed this masterpiece up with autoerotic aid from the telephone. Just a little bit of that:
there is lava in his loins
as he texts her
this is no urinary tract infection
for he cannot piss it away
like all the other chances he had with her
We'd like to take up a collection to buy him an eHarmony membership, but we wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Stay safe, OSers. It's scary out there.
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And I hear that bastard mr. sunshine flashed Surly, which really pisses me off. That's my job, dude.
But I'm pained to hear everyone is whoring their shit to you. It's not like you set yourself up for that :)
Check out the yeehaw goin' on over at the Palin homestead. It's about a 7.3 on the Sneed-O-Meter.
It seems we're breaking out in a rash of closed comments today.
Ah, love is in the air.
Man, are you going to be busy!
The only down side is that now I have to go waste five minutes of my time reading Gordon, which I have diligently avoided. I'll plop down on my rug first.
Jury - He's not talking to you. Wait...
1_Mom - STFU, McCarthy.
And yes, mr. sunshine = eeeeww! He needs a proofreader too. I think he was going for "unobtrusively" but lapsed into sideways phonics...
We don't even assume responsibility for our own stupid comments but we'll play along. You plucked this piece off the internet WILLY NILLY without ever being a member of OS and found ANOTHER comment on ANOTHER blog and your assertion is that our hinting about mistakes in yet another piece last week is connected to the misspelled rantings of a third (fourth? fifth?) party on the comments of that blog that wasn't written by us.
Uh, sure. We "has" wrought that. Why not?
Don't worry - the pants are elastic, plastic, magic and fantastic. They fit all wearers.
Whiff away.
Ouchie! You just made my head explode with that sentence!
P.S. Damn that's HAWT! ;~)
We're more phased like generally moving in a direction in stages. Yet, that is not what that husband did not do. He didn't do a thing that looks like being surprised.
We'll have to come up with some sort of happy prize for those willing to pick out our mistakes. Until then, yay for you! We apologize for the majority of us having vaginas. Is that a good prize, Token? Remember, it was a Tuesday.
Spelling and grammar is a raw spot for everyone - both giving and getting. No text is perfect and we aren't asking anyone else's to be.
As for the magic exploding sentence, that's what our brainwaves sound like when we're laughing too hard (and/or drunk).
WHERE the hell did you get that last visual???? ahahahhhhhahahahahhhooohhooooh hhaaaaaa. aaah.
Ok I'm DONE. really. hoooo..... funny
(spell check said to add that apostrophe, who am I to argue?)
I think this will satisfy the needs of all parties involved.
Touchy and cross? What? You mean as advertised?
Looks like your barber did that already, dude. Just say'in.
Is there a CrazyPants award for the most wacked haircut? You and your brother might sweep the first two spots!
P.S. Stop sucking up to Gorgon! He's not going to invite you down to Marti Gras in São Paulo no matter how much you kiss his ass (partly because that would require him to actually live there).
P.P.S. and yeah, you DO need a spell checker, dumbass! =
http://www.iespell.com/
We have much bigger news coming up this evening than your haircut.
Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Cool! Until your news breaks, can we make up and spread malicious rumors about what it is going to be about?
Above, "Nasty Enuf" should read "Scarlett Sumac."
Scarlett forgot #34.
That is borderline creepy..
We were actually "stalking" Nasty Enuf. It's not our fault it turned out to be Scarlett.
We'll try harder to surpass "borderline" in the future, too.
I was wondering if I garnered that much attention that you cranky pants would bother to check it out. I guess I did.
Nasty Enuf was a one off. It really was no more veiled than the many comments directed to me which I am not going to waste any time in pointing out.
And I guess my point being is that anyone can create alternative identities. Anyone can do it. As you said in your previous post it is neither clever nor original. I don't see how it benefits any community or social order to give an aforementioned bigot any more attention. But hey, that's just me.
I've wasted enough time here already.
Rule #1
~and~
How cats give you that "I meant to do that" look when they fall off the counter.
"mr sunshine" is new to me, but seems extremely deserving of this prize. Protuber...what?? Ewwwwwwww.
The alters are turning into a real circus around here. Maybe someone could publish a list of all the known ones? I often feel like I am the only one in the room who doesn't get the joke.
For instance, is Craze Czar actually Kit Duncan?
I think Scarlett Sumac provides an excellent lesson in the risks of the alter. I'm scraping my plans to create 10 or 12 other personas and take all the different "sides" that are evident around here. Too bad, though. It was starting to look like a lot of fun!
May sound funny coming from me (may?) but I think you have gone too far in trashing Scarlett.
"commas, we don' need no stinkin; commas."
Speaking of alters and stolen avatars (mine), I received the worst hate mail of my life last night from someone whom I believe is yet another alter of the saintly Kit Duncan. It was a record -- 22 slurs and name calls in one angry-ass PM! And there were two PMs in all. Whooee. Guess I rattled somebody's cage all right. The truth smarts, don't it?
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
I am Spartacus.
Finally, Emma admits that she has only one alter! So far at least!!!
but your public humiliation of me, gal,
has decided me in favor of getting mean and subtler....
oh i forgot that
you have lost your vocabulary\
(dont know why i am praising that monstrosity, "confessions"
off as anything but adolescent fun
yet penultimate means, gal,\
next to last....
the last stalker is some frail strong misanthrope
with no chance to stalk...for the penis is shrunken to the degree
that we all agree it oughta be:
the length of a number two pencil,
to inscribe sweet misery with no heat, no light, no
ha
company....
thank you for your service in bringing some bad poetry to light
and for making me feel like an active member of this
hardassed community...
i shall endeavour to to better, buddy boy....
altars and avatars are meant to fall in the hurricane that is coming
with your
helpful
advice
(friended with relish)
Would these rubbish posts of yours qualify? Keep spreading your hate and discord. There is not enough of that in the world now is there? I will gladly loan you a dull knife if you promise to use it.
This is a fun place for many of us and evidently your fun comes from getting attention by causing others to feel misery. Is this an example of how "we're actually aiming to improve this place"?
You are the devil's cum stain. Scarlett has done nothing around here but post fun, interesting, artfully crafted works. Quit attacking her and others. You obviously have multiple mental disorders and there are several medications out there to help you. Try some and you might even become near human. Is the real problem the fact that you can't really compete without resorting to ad hominem attacks on others? What a grand legacy you are creating.
You want to create enemies on this site with your words. Great, you simplistic twit. You have succeeded. I hate your fucking guts. You will find me more than a worthy adversary- asshole.
Sheesh. It's not like I called her "devil's cum stain," which I look forward to putting on my vanity license plate as soon as I figure out how to get it to fit.
Maybe a Zazzle bumpersticker...
nature, aintcha? remind me of oscar wilde somehow...
spew on, siren...u know the service u provide:
anger is the underside of genius,
and genius must be nurtured w/o gentility
oh keep spewing...please.... you are the next to penultimate stalker
in the verbiageWorld of temporarily besotted mr sunshine
who cuzza u will never have no more
romantic shit with protruding penises!
why? because sunshine got the love bug
for a half hour and wanted to say something that might reach out
to other lovebugs....love is swell....and brutal, but
mostly swell...
new sunshine poem for Ya:
"for sirens i love/tho they bring me my ruin/
i leave only my dead
formaldehyed penis/
much politer/
yet protrubing"
and! look, you got the reins here, it
must be hard work.
forgive yourself, siren.
gotcha with the christian shit
I will give cranky pants one credit and probably should have posted it on the last Cranky Pants Attention Whore post but I was leaving for vacation at the time. Sage advice was given to read posts before rating, not the other way around.
Besides that, the creation of multiple identities has caused much damage and mistrust here in this community from many sides. I note the exception of some people who (for creative reasons) are open about their duplicity .
I joined in today to expose it. Many of us have been well aware of all this for a loooong, looooong time. Anyways, I do have a sense of humour about this stuff and I have kept my mouth shut until now.
I have contacted the editors to take down what I put up today. If I post here, it will be as Scarlett only.
The only thing I have to contribute is my concurrence with Emma Peel. I too long for a master list of alters. It really has been the downfall of OS.
Oh well.
Back to work.
Perhaps you should read the rest of our hate filled, blood splattered, bile spewing shit nuggets so you'll get how this works.
Oh, the absolute power of being so very, very nasty by... um... defending the right to religious freedom, pointing out what is evidently our newest follower's um... shortcomings and having the good fucking sense to put an IP recorder on this blog. Yeah - it drives us to the dreaded "um."
I'm searching for how we're making enemies here as well. Scarlett and Stellaa? We didn't do that. Scarlett did that.
We know... you're all just here to write. Get on with it. If you pay attention to us, you just encourage us.
To stop those monsters 1-2-3,
Here's a fresh new way that's trouble-free,
It's got Paul Anka's guarantee...
Lisa: Guarantee void in Tennessee.
All: Just don't look! Just don't look!
Just don't look! Just don't look!
Just don't look! Just don't look!
We didn't write that. It's The Simpsons. We'd hate to get sued because Open Salon is extremely monitored these days.
I know I will endure much shame and ridicule but the future of OS is more important than any one person. I shall be as Joan of Arc burning at the stake, as Jesus upon the cross, as Spock in the 'Wrath of Kahn', sacrificing myself for the greater good. I stand before you thus revealed.
Madame Butterfly." Ahem...
burn it all baby....
religious freedom, as u well know, is freedom FROM
Just as political freedom is
and any other damn freedom you can come up with....
we need freedom TO...towards....into...
the great abyss beyond our preconceptual universe
where volatitlity is often the chosen,
but of course not only,
method.
method actors, all of us, each instant,
aping alter egos we spin up...
no criticism here...except...
you take this shit too serious, maybe...
That's a crime, genius. Who is sounding violent here - the ones saying people shouldn't kill themselves or the one offering us a "rusty knife"?
Look around, fool. There are people abusing each other for real here. People are collecting money from their sob stories. People are hurting each other in ways unimaginable. People are starving and losing their homes. Do something productive with yourself other than trying to scare people for calling Scarlett on "what she meant to do" all along.
Help someone who really needs it.
Fuck - even we put up the suicide hotline.
P.S. We hear Jodi Kasten is one of us. Start there. She's a real bitch.
And posting a suicide hotline link as cover is utter bullshit.
As I said before, there are ways to do this, right and wrong. Sarcasm done right can be healing. But truly, you're making baby Jesus cry.
Wouldn't that be weird? Like I'm talking to myself right NOW? And that Spudguy. HI SPUDGUY! Sorry. DR. Spudguy.
I once did a whole post as the squirrel. Even he said it was uncanny - I shit you not. Maybe I'm the squirrel? Maybe the squirrel is me? Maybe I'm Jodi pretending to be Crazypants pretending to be HARRY!
That made my head hurt.
I'm afraid to thumbify this. It sounds masturbatory (or at the very least like an orgy).
Commenting on the post as subterfuge is not all that clever. You must be from the west coast to be up this late. HA! This is starting to get really fun. Since you don't recognize my joking around and moved to the personal for real, let me respond.
It was a dull knife; can't you read?
I don't follow orders too well so you have to say please if you want me to explain.
I am not a genius but fairly smart. I know all about crimes.
Me a fool? Okay, been called worse. Be productive? HA! You of all people dare to lecture me about being productive? Look around, you say and then accuse people of being abusive when you are yourself abusers or so you act. Help someone? You are joking now. Aren't you? You old kidder you. Who have you ever helped? I wonder about that.
Geez, what a bunch of simple bitches your group is! You start this crazy, off-the-wall stuff and then I join in and you accuse me of trying to scare you and saying terrorist-like things and you were serious. I never was. I guess I can't play with you girls anymore. So sad. I was having fun. Maybe you will invite me back when you get better at the game.
As for the "productive" comment, it's obvious that Dr. Spudman is a peace loving guy who is just protecting his friend. We made no comment as to the content of his blog, only the idea that he'd spend time tracking someone down on the internet. You want to hunt someone down and give them a lesson? Go here. It's an endless supply of hatred.
Yet, imagine for a moment that one of your friends was publically humiliated for offering a place to stay and a job to someone right here on OS. In return for that, she and her husband were accused of trading this "charity" for this OSer being a sex slave. In public. Then that OSer in need did it again to someone else. And again. And again.
That's not online. That's not just "snarky" words. That's real. That happened. Yet, we can't even mention her name without being "mean." That's OUR friend who was hurt in REAL life. HER family - HER children. But that's okay - because the perpetrator said she was sorry.
So, gosh. We're sorry. We're sorry people are being used for money. Not just by that particular person we can no longer name and who we wish the best in all seriousness - but by person after person here. If you're suicidal, call the suicide hotline. If you need money, food or a place to stay - chime in. If you need mental support, do it without asking for money. Someone will help you, just be honest about it.
That pissed us off. So did Scarlett using an alter to play "this is one of you." But we were unaware that alters were so HOLY. If you "come after us" - be prepared. We are in three countries and sixteen different states. But, it sounds like one of us will do, because that would be so totally satisfying for you. A bunch of cranky women are worth the fight and those Stormfront dudes would be too much work.
I got home an hour or so ago, and clicked on; have just read the miasma of post and comments, pm's and all that surrounds this post.
I distrust anonymity, unless it's some old Chinese proverb, or unless through their willingness, I'm allowed to get who the person is.
Some things chime, some don't chime.
The measure of veracity is identity. I just made that up. I'm going to go down in 15 minutes to cook fish for my mom and I.
Wanted to say before I go I think this ( CP approach ) is an interesting way for us here to go. I agree, multiple identities make us wary - good or bad, it's what they do. But CP is something new.
Me, I think CP has brought it to a place where anon's can attack knowns, like thoth attacked some of the rest of us.
I don't know what surly meant about an Australian's use of the word crazy, but in this one post, I'm beginning to care so much less. I've not used that word on surly's post.
Thoth excepted - OK, The Judge and lesh too - I've tried to be nice, here. Friendly, even. I'll keep trying, but I have this sinking feeling : this is falling apart.
I didn't finish that well.
I meant to say CP have raised the ante : we have a situation.
Come out ; come clean. Or not.
Who are you, CP ?
We did nothing even CLOSE to what you are saying you want to do to us. She said something nasty - we exposed her identity. We didn't even publish the IP so other people could see it. She got busted using an alter - if you get one of us we'll be busted too. Such is life.
You're threatening to "come after us." We did no such thing to Scarlett. She walked right in after ADMITTEDLY knowing we said in the last post that IPs were searchable. Of course, you can't see that anymore because when we told her that she could get rid of the "bad" post, she decided she could get rid of the whole mess. That's not cool in our book. We regret she made that choice. We do not regret not protecting her comment when she says she KNEW it would happen.
In a week, if we stopped, you'd forget we existed. She killed her whole blog because she embarrassed herself. That's unfortunate, but her actions were her own. Hate us because she screwed up, that's okay, hell - hate us because we're being only slightly less of jerks than you are - but be honest about it. You have your reasons and we have ours. We didn't come after you or Scarlett. You came here.
We didn't kill Scarlett's blog. She did. Maybe you should have been talking her out of that. That would have been productive.
Now, take a deep breath and imagine that perhaps this is all a great, big object lesson in what all of you assholes look like when you play with alters, hurt people's feelings and fuck each other over for money.
Maybe, just maybe, it was.
We meant to do that.
If you're unable to say who you are, CP, why are any of us here at all ?
Sad about Scarlett, now you've run her off. I thought she wrote beautifully.
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all of us assholes? who is the alter here? who are you? all of us assholes. wow.
Yes, yes. I, too, played with an alter for a very short time. Worse than that, I mocked another OSer by donning her avatar and a close proximity of her name. I did this for one hour, and I did it in retaliation against her slamming several people over a period of several months. I apologized publicly, and within less than two weeks she was again publicly browbeating me for my offense, and has continued to do so.
I have sat quietly now for three months without responding to her directly, though I receive 3 to 5 public chastisements every single day, and have for a long time. I am mocked and ridiculed every day on OS. I am accused of continuing to harass her by innuendo through my blogs, but I do not. I am called a liar, a psychopath, a demon, evil, vile. I am none of these things. I am a person who made a mistake and has apologized.
At some point this has got to stop before someone gets seriously hurt. Making light of another's suicidality, laughing at someone who is losing his or her home, all of this name calling and posturing and polarizing. I am referencing not only the membership of cp, but to others as well.
I can appreciate how any of us are capable of getting so aggravated when someone pushes our buttons that we make a mistake. But to continue to harass someone, anyone, week after week, to wage deliberate campaigns to get someone to leave or to make them honor your version of the truth, our version - somehow we have got to move past this venom.
Interesting. Let me follow you impeccable logic. Somebody did something wrong that upset you. Because of that, you are going to use the 'shotgun' approach and get, not the offending party, but anybody who gets in the way no matter how innocent. This didn't start tonight with you people cornering and criticizing Scarlett. It started earlier and she was trying to defend herself. So, a human being is now hurt, humiliated and that is no sweat off your brow. She is just collateral damage. And you think that is okay? Sad. A very sad way to live.
I have been on this site for two years. I have rarely, if ever, written angry words to anyone. Until tonight. But that is just me, huh? Never happened before until you cornered my friend and blasted away. But I am the one who needs to be honest? You gals are never at fault. Your motives and actions are all so pure. Okay, great. So be it. Call yourself a success tonight for you have made an enemy.
I never get involved in this crap here. I always ignore it. You are the type of people who relish conflict; I don't. How many more do you have to hurt and alienate before your mission is accomplished? Is there a number? You are no better than the people you accuse. Guess I'll go have some eggplant and call it a night.
I think truth be told Cp, you came after me. Not only me but I was your first favorite sitting there on the page with Joan and Kerry. I saw that and so did a few others. Did you actually think I would be stupid enough to favourite you back?
I am not sure why and perhaps I should be flattered but I can tell all this ... there were direct quotes from my posts and numerous innuendoes in that last CP blog comments. The Siren knows it. So there was provocation with intent which I avoided. But I then realized bullies are counting on people being silent ...
Why I became someone's Osama Bin Laden here I don't know. But one real question remains.
Why are women who are so beyond our league here at OS roaming around giving greater attention to bigots and making fun of those that may be emotionally unstable? Sounds like Grade A bullying to me. Any parent knows that.
Membership has its privileges I suppose if your maturity level is eleven years old and you need someone to pick on. Spud, I'm with you, they can dish it out but they can't take it.
I apologized to Stella for getting caught in the tangled web against my better judgement. I will not grace this post again. And wonder if this comment will still be here in the morning ... (I'll make a copy just in case).
The only reason I'm bothering to respond is because Emma is accusing someone of doing what I did, and because Kit is being accused of being my alter. Or wait, I am Kit's alter, right? I wrote Emma a really angry PM (well 2) because she will not leave me alone. I wandered into OS oblivious, thinking, oh, here's a place where I can chunk some bothersome stuff that's in my head... there are a million folks on here, nobody will read it, but it will be therapeutic for me and a new place to read things. Ok, well I figured out really fast that the way to get some notice is to poke the wrong monkey with a stick.
I was reading something of Kit's and saw like 3 posts in a row where Emma just spewed all this anger, and by reading her posts, it was clear that she & Kit had never even met in real life. I commented that I had never seen such hatred expressed on the internet (blah blah blah) and I stand by it. I have never seen one person get SO riled up over another internet person whom she has never ever met or had real life dealings with.
Well then, I get my first "tut tut, act right child" PM from Emma. Didn't care for it. Next thing you know, she's accusing me of referring to her in all my comments, which I have NOT. Paranoia. Then another PM. I blew my top. I don't mind if she makes it public. Couldn't care less. I want this woman to seek help for her severe case of narcissism and paranoia. Yep, she's rattled my cage, but because she's batshit crazy and won't go away. But wow, Emma has managed to take my PM, which was meant to do nothing but very clearly express my contempt for her, and turn it into "evidence" that she is right! A most accomplished narcissist! Well done, Emma!
I suppose that, because my original offending comment was about Kit, Emma has fused us in her steel trap mind. And now the heat has been turned up on Kit. Sorry, Kit. And this post by crazypants, and all the comments, and all the stuff I've watched go down in the last couple of weeks, I am starting to "get it" here. That's fine, every site that has lots of members & regulars will form cliques and there will be fights and drama. Happens everywhere. Human nature. But I'm no alter. Just a depressed woman who writes stupid boring shit and gets extremely pissed off when lectured to by condescending conceited assholes.
This is a thing of beauty. Thank you. Truly.
I don't object to what you're doing. I would actually enjoy it, if you weren't such great big wusses as to hide under your crazypants cloak. Not knowing the oeuvre from which you speak, I can give you no more standing that I do the objects of your scorn. Not that you should care. But you're no Emma Peel. Or I'm pretty sure you're not. At least, I hope you aren't.
What? You all log in at the same time to this account, and have a way to communicate with each other as you "create?" Or you take turns? Sounds like a pain in the ass, and for what exactly? To keep OSers from sending money to other OSers? Seems to be your biggest bug-a-boo.
I took in a crazypantsed OSer once. Bet ya remember Janie (and the other 33 too). It was a unique experience to say the least, but I don't regret it.
I can understand the lampooning of Gordon. I doubt that he cares a single bit that you did it either. I never read sunshine, but he has left interesting, to the point comments on my blog. I wish him no ill will.
Picking on the less fortunate though... those not as talented or well off financially as you, those that might actually be suicidal (who knows?), those losing homes due to an economic meltdown and a rigged system?
It sounded like a great idea, right? Right.
Sirens or a gaggle of spoiled bitchy holier than thou geese?
Please don't comment at my blog further, although I know at least a few of you read every sorry word I put up over there.
Party on Sirens *cough*!!!
I have never asked for or received money from another OSer. I DID plead for help for Robin (why is it you can't say the name?). Several sent money to her, although it wasn't a lot. When I say I didn't regret putting her up for ten days, I am in no way saying what she did to Lauren and her family here in public after she left here was right or ok. She was offered a decent job, a room of her own at their home, AND a car to drive! It seemed to me (which, yes made me happy) that my pleas had resulted in putting a wayward human back on track, and it could have been that way..... if. You all obviously know the story.
At that point it was out of my hands though. I can say that I had several long conversations with Lauren (whom I had previously met at Mary T.'s) during that fucked up mess which resulted in her and I knowing and appreciating each other a lot better.
Anyway, carry on 'ladies.'
Then Scarlett Sumac assumes a different identity and posts a comment (now deleted) that frankly seemed to have been entirely unrelated to this post, but in subsequent comments (as herself) she defends in various ways that I just don't understand, including saying she took an alter knowing she'd be outed...? Then Dr. Spudman goes ballistic because someone has, he feels, attacked Scarlett.
If there is a whole bunch of backstory here that I am missing, why don't you all spell it out. I think CrazyPants has been pretty clear about what's going on, but a bunch of the people making comments have left me very, very confused.
And Trig, you are neither the first nor last to laugh at me, but I do think you did it better than most ;p But is Craze Czar Kit or not?? He/She says no, now. I'm sooooo confused!!!
Stellaa pointed out recently that it is called OPEN salon for a reason. Even if 34 demented loons want to band together as "one personality" (which I must say takes the cake! Hi Freaky), well, they have every right to do just that. They want to save OS from comma abusers and suicide pleas? Fine. I do think (still) that the whole IP tracking is creepy, like I said above...
What about all the other identities (the list is long, we all know them) that come out especially on Saturday nights. I will be kind enough not to list them --the list is long -- that have created alters so they can come out and pounce on people especially during dust-ups. They serve this purpose only. We all know this. No one is checking their IP's. They really make this a better place, don't they?
I mimiced that behavoir to point it out. If 30+ can do it, then 1 can do it. Trust me I wish I never did. Guess I'm not Nasty Enuf as the rest.
As I said earlier, I think there are a lot of dramas being played out here that are not at all obvious to me and I suspect to a lot of other people. So anybody who is waling on others in comments, please be clear and specific about the crimes you believe they have committed. Maybe if we all do that we can at least avoid unintentionally giving offense.
There is nothing wrong with anonymous. Either someone has said something credible or they haven't. Not knowing who they are doesn't change that. And anyone who knows anything about the internet knows that there are very few ways to hide.
Tracking IPs isn't illegal, and it isn't even unethical. Open Salon knows where each and every one of you originates your post from. They just don't POST IT WITH YOUR PROFILE.
Geez. And hardly anyone mentioned Gordo's award. If you ask me, THAT is crazypants.
I have not harassed you with PMs. I have sent you 2 in total. I didn't even respond to your last three. By doing what you're doing, you are outing yourself in a very public way. I'm not the least bothered by it. I told you that I would never PM you again and I won't. Please to get over yourself Greek children's book writer!
You sent me a PM. I wrote back.
Couple days later, you wrote me a PM. I wrote back with 2.
Now, a logical sane person would NOT say "I haven't responded to your last 3." But then, you are not such a person.
You said in your PMs that you were "distressed" by my criticism of you *sniff* and that you are a "long-time and respected member of OS" as if that was supposed to intimidate me into being a good little girl. Sorry.
And if you're not bothered by my PMs, why did you bring it up here, where it's not even relevant? And you'll bring it up again somewhere else. And again, and again, and again.. because it's clearly what you do.
Sounds perfectly thuggish to me. The hypocrisy and self-righteous arrogance is astounding and troubles me to say the least. I happen to read Scarlett Sumac and Spudman's blog and find no reason whatsoever for the slagging these excellent writers. It's as if McCarthyism is rising from the ashes, rearing it's ugly head yet again.
Crazypant(s) – who I believe is not a group but one sad excuse for a human being – is intent on disrupting OS for their own twisted reasons which no sane person can possibly fathom.
I initially hesitated in responding to this attack not wanting to validate the(ir) poison pens, but decided I had to have my say on this disgusting display of vitriol and unwarranted personal attacks.
I have a clear conscience where that is concerned. As I've stated publicly before and also in an public apology where I wrote about exactly what happened, UNLIKE YOU, we worked out our problems and moved forward. It looks like you are the one who is stuck there in my "mistake," which was a direct result of your malicious act in stealing my avatar and wreaking havoc on OS with it. I'll be forwarding this to OM to let her know that I am not the one who brought this up twice in the past few days.
Thanks
I have never come to your site to address you in the disrespectful and hostile manner that you do as you continue to come to my pages. I used to delete your comments, but they are exposed. As recently as the last week you have posted four or five such comments.
It is not I who have kept this pot boiling emma.
It's not full disclosure when you are simply passing off inaccurate information as facts. You are the one who brought another innocent party into the discussion four months ago, so self-possessed with your own certainty. You were wrong then, and you are wrong again.
For anyone reading this today - I challenge you to find anywhere on OS where I have been blatantly hostile to anyone. emma and others read things in to some of my blogs and I can only say that they are simply not that important. Their innuendos are no evidence of correctness.
The closest I've come to writing specifically about emma is when she wrote a scathing article about one of her students. As a college instructor myself, I was outraged to see any teacher speak that way about a student. I did not throw a fit on her page. Instead, I went to my own blog and wrote a blog about my own experience as an instructor, my own relationships with my students - it was nothing whatsoever about emma and her students.
I have attempted to apologize to you - even in my original public apology to you your response was to come to my site and tell me I SHOULD be ashamed because what I did was a "shitty" thing to do - very ungracious, very shaming. I said nothing.
I will say something now. Your obsession with me is disturbing. Your ability to think that virtually everything I write is about YOU is as narcissistic as anything I've ever seen. I am sorry you've been hurt. But emma, borrowing someone's avatar for less than an hour, and not even being blatantly rude during that time but rather playfully teasing you - this is not an offence that warrants over four months of harassment.
And Emma, look who was the first on this page to bring it all up. YOU. In a very passive-aggressive (ouch!) manner, if I might add.
Kit will "stop at nothing to win." ??? Wtf? Is there a prize? A side-by-side washer and dryer? Lifetime supply of Frosted Mini Wheats perhaps? Wow, you just displayed a really warped mind by saying that, Miss Em. Love it.
Ok, I can do this. I'll just be Kit's alter, if Kit will have me. Not sure what the rules are for alters but I'm sure they will be pointed out to me as I break them. By well-meaning individuals, of course. I actually think that Kit is deserving of a more interesting and cool alter, but them's the breaks, I guess.
I still have the PM where I very graciously and quickly accepted your apology. Apparently you do not remember that because it does not fit the image you want people to have of me as the one who caused all the problems. I have no recollection of the public comment to which you refer, and if I did say it, doubtless you are twisting it out of all proportion because Kit, you absolutely cannot be honest about anything. It sounds like a sarcastic comment that I would make as a joke, frankly.
I would have had respect for you if you had reacted openly to my teaching post. That could have started a worthwhile dialogue. Unfortunately, you used it to club me all the while claiming I was crazy for thinking it was about me. Sick.
Your smugness, your high self regard, your insistence upon doing anything it takes to destroy people all the while being as nice and sweet as pie -- as I've said before, you are not fooling anyone.
Frankly, I am bored by this battle but I simply cannot let you pretend to be sorry about what you did when I will never forgot how gleeful you were in telling me that you didn't mean it at all.
As for your commenting at the same time act, you put on a show but it proves nothing.
I happened across your comment and just to clarify Crazy Pants did not take down my comment to save me from embarrassment. I took it down. I was and am not embarrassed or humiliated or anything of the sort. I am quite fine. Thanks.
Oh, Jesus Christ - how dumb ARE YOU PEOPLE?
Posting at the same time simply proves you might know how to have TWO DIFFERENT BROWSERS open at the same time with different accounts logged into each.
Sheesh.
"you've never even met" to use your own expression. Your tactics remind me of someone else I used to know and I am well familiar with them. I know where you are going with this. Let's just say your "sudden" fascination with me isn't sudden, and you know a hell of a lot for someone who claims to have just arrived here a total stranger. Keep digging yourself in deeper and deeper, it's kind of fun to watch.
I guess it's like being taunted on the playground. At some point you just have to turn your back, walk away and stop giving the idiots the power to bother you.
I just thought someone should plainly state it.
As for being calm, I'm quite calm. Thanks for thinking of me, though. In fact, if you like, I've got this itch on my back that I can't reach with these stubby little arms...
I also have no problem at all with the "sirens" telling Emma that Kit and I have different IP's, if they feel so inclined.
Your overreaction to my understandable-to most-sane-human beings surprise at your actions was a dead giveaway. You have been unrelentingly hostile to me and your PMs were vicious. I have half a mind to take you up on your permission to post them -- and my PMs to you -- because I don't think anyone would have any doubt as to who is the instigator here. You deliberately put yourself in the middle of a battle and without ANY attempt at all to learn what had really happened, vigorously defended Kit and name called me. That is not the behavior of a disengaged stranger no matter how you try to spin it. I'll bust you on this, one way or another. My instincts are never wrong when it comes to this level of BS.
Thing is, though - I got over pretty quickly, and it won't happen again. I have you firmly categorized as "batshit" in my head, and it's pointless to get riled up about those folks.
From what I understand, you simply refuse to get over whatever happened with you and Kit. That's between you two. I understand she "stole" your avatar, but surely there can't be two identical user names on here? (I'm asking cautiously because quattro with his itchy back might start calling me dumb again :P ) I mean, how could anybody really think she was you? And if they did, what actual harm did that cause you? Never mind, I don't care. Carry your grudge to the grave for all I care. Honestly, my only concern at this point is that you are getting mad at me and taking it out on her, and NO, we don't know each other. Have never talked, met, messaged, nothing, until that first night I criticized you on her blog. Scout's honor.
But really, Emma, you are a very provoking personality. I daresay you have these kinds of problems with people all the time. I don't. I generally get along with people, and will admit that I reacted strongly to you because I am just not used to being admonished, criticized and lectured to by an internet biddy who keeps insisting that I'm someone I'm not.
Pick somebody new to fight with. I'm sure it won't take you long.
As for being "invested" in this, there are several issues here. One, I don't like being accused of something when it's false. Two, I don't like being chastised by somebody who acts like they're an authority when they're not. Three, Emma is taking her negativity toward me and using it to harrass someone else, which is wrong. Four, I don't back down easily.
Since you don't know me at all, and you're saying I'm running a charade, I guess your mind is all made up and what I'm saying won't matter anyway. That's fine. Tell you what though, all this has made me appreciate the fact that I am not spending my online time looking for conspiracies and plots and ways to carry on a grudge. It sounds exhausting, not to mention a little nutty. To each his own.
*Begone!*
Throughout this period you have posted many comments about me, hateful, untrue, your "suspicions" ungrounded in reality. I have remained silent until this past week or so. Anyone who doesn't believe this has only to look at my comment history, and emma's.
I have not encouraged anyone to engage with you, though I have received numerous pm's from people who tell me that they receive scathing pm's about me from you and those loyal to you. I have, in fact, blatantly discouraged people from calling you out because (1) it does not good, (2) it simply inflames you even more, and (3) it arouses even more unfounded suspicions in your heart. Case in point - Penelope.
I mean no disrespect to you emma. I just don't spend nearly as much energy and time thinking about you as you apparently do me. I told you once if you didn't quit people were going to start thinking you were flirting with me. I was teasing at the time. But now, these many months later, you're just starting to scare me a little.
Fazed, not phased. And hardly space-age: "alteration of feeze, to drive away, frighten, from Middle English fesen, from Old English fēsian to drive away."
not hating; just saying. (with only part of my colon.)
There are limits, of course, and sadistic cruelty is not the way to encourage and guide inexperienced people to gain skills and enjoyment from their innate capacities.
Ostensibly it is a place where the participants who are both professional and very amateur present their writing and other creative efforts for appraisal.
Nope. There's a little thingie at the upper left corner of the OS Home page that says "What is Open Salon?" - click it, it is a link. The post it takes you to was made by the creator, Kerry Lauerman, and explains quite simply what Open Salon is supposed to be.
See, many people make the mistake of thinking this is a site for writers - it ain't, it is a social content site. Meaning, it is the bastard child of Facebook and Wordpress.
Welcome to the monkey house, and sorry to dash your dreams.
I applaud the creativity with which you have described your history. Of particular interest to me was your connection to Baileys Irish Cream, who knew?
Looking forward to more scathing snark. Fortunately OS is a deep well from which to draw, so you should have no shortage of contenders for future awards.
I wet my pants.
Brilliant!
R
after long thought and consideration.......................
we've decided.....................
......................that this ain't nice.
hmmmmm.......................