Bob Eckstein

Bob Eckstein
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Snowman expert, author of The History of the Snowman and cartoonist for the New Yorker, Reader's Digest, Wall Street Journal and others. Twitter; snowmanexpert

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DECEMBER 15, 2009 9:38AM

The Snowman Collection – Top 100 (#95)

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This winter I want to share my favorite snowmen from my personal stash of over 1,000 antique collectibles, photographs and artwork. The collection was on display at the Albright Memorial Library in Scranton, PA (and on TV a couple of times). Each day I will post a countdown of the top 100 snowmen, along with a backstory or two.
 
  original drawing Frosty
 
Drawing by Paul Coker, Jr. Rights – Picturetown Collection © 2005
 
What can I say. I hate Frosty. There are a few reasons–do you have some time? I've actually spoken on the subject for almost a hour on a show.
 
Easily, it's the worst of the Christmas TV classics–he can't hold a candle to Grinch or Chuck Brown–with one insipid song repeated over and over. Unfortunately this is the snowman everyone thinks of now and most people don't realize snowman-making was once a distingished pastime and one of the oldest forms of folk art we know initially enjoyed by adults as well as great artists. Frosty undid all of that. Him and his stupid dancing around made snowmen silly. Quite frankly, I have little use for him. 
 
But he makes the list. Barely. Reluctantly. 1) He's the most famous snowman. 2) This is an original drawn specifically for me by the great Mad magazine cartoonist and Frosty creator, Paul Coker, Jr. And this drawing is actually a lot nicer than the Frosty we see each year on the Christmas special. 
 
There's a few Frosty backstories but I'll pick this one I haven't told yet; I meet Mr. Coker initially by tracking him down in New Mexico to tell him about my snowman project and to let him know there was a "self-portrait by Paul Coker" up for sale on ebay. It was signed "Coker '54." He thought it was a forgery but I won the item ($30) and he has it now. Delighted, he explained it was indeed his painting done while in art school (he's in his late 80s). #98.
 
First BEST Frosty
An earlier (and superior) version of Frosty, 1954 rare still
from initial 3 minute TV special that only few saw.
Has anyone out there seen this before?
 

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Bob, thanks for another great installment here. I remember Paul Coker from the many years that I had a subscription to Mad Magazine so I was especially interested to hear your story about him. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
"Him and his stupid dancing..." Indeed!
And no, I had never seen the original, but he also has a certain "doofus" quality about him.
Great find, Bob...and great laughs!
:-)
Bob,
I find the idea of a snowman with legs - walking and dancing - offensive.
Everyone who matters knows that snowmen are monopedal, like a snail, sans the slime trail.
Ed Sullivan knew this. When Frosty appeared on his show they only showed him from the waist up.
I don't blame Coker for this, as he had to bipedalize Frosty so the commoners could relate. There is a societal and certainly media bias towards bipediality, even though there are a few famous monopeds, like Cheney, who leave slime trails.
As a child, I would make snowmen every winter, always searching for that one silk hat that would do the trick. It never happened.

So, Frosty basically brought me a childhood of disappointment and failure. The bastard.

Seriously, I never saw the original and I have to say, it had me boppin' my feet to the music. I always liked Coker's artwork, and I never made the connection between the Paul Coker from Mad and the Paul Coker from the cartoon. Thanks for the enlightment.

Rated.
I think you have love for Frosty deep down:) thanks for another great word and image entry.
i don't remember ever seeing this, but it looks like something we would have thought was amazing back then. I like the cannon in the town square --
This is good timing because just last night Frosty was a subject on The Big Bang Theory. You are making me laugh all over again.
It's true, I'm probably indebted to Frosty. It's a love hate relationship and it depends on what day you catch me.

Paul, your observations are dead on right. Well done.
You and Frosty Jr. Though this essay kind of melts my cold heart.
Juliet, I think tomorrow I'm posting my Montreal snowmen...I think I have three.

Thanks everyone. Hope everyone is not going nuts with the holiday rush.
I'll definitely visit.
I loved this Bob. I watched the original - don't recall seeing it- and I'm old enough to have seen the original.
Awww... poor Frosty.
Ha! when I was young I used to think the snowman moved once everybody had gone to bed!
On behalf of my daughter who has known every word of Frosty's song since she was two and loves him like no other, I am asking you to reconsider your position and show the big man some love!
Very interesting! I have never liked Frosty either. As a child, I always looked forward to the Christmas specials, but Frosty was always creepy.
I'm not much a fan of that Frosty either ... but the Wendy's Frosty ... I'm all over that!
Yes I've seen it before but only because my ex, who grew up in Chicago, would watch WGN's annual showing of vintage Christmas-y cartoons on Christmas Eve.

My first introduction to Frosty was the 1950's era Little Golden Book. I didn't really care that much about the story except for the traffic cop part. When I first moved to Chicago, I was so excited to see real traffic cops -- I kept half-expecting to see Frosty thumpity-thumping along the street. I still think of Frosty whenever I see a traffic cop.

I do confess though I get a little misty-eyed when Karen is crying over the Frosty-puddle in the other version. Locking a snowman in a greenhouse is pure evil genius.
I've hated his stupid song ever since 3nd grade when we sang the song in class and I was the only one who shouted "STOP!"
Go kiss a snowblower, Frosty.
I absolutely love the slightly hostile expressions on the disturbing-looking kids surrounding the 1954 Frosty in the middle image.
I remember, as a kid, making the connection between the artwork in MAD magazine and the familiar-looking characters (both drawn and animated puppets) in Rankin/Bass holiday specials.

I watched a couple of those specials this last week. The best of them are little musicals, complete with an overture during the opening credits. Shmaltzy, for sure, but genuine and sweet.
I've never gotten the big fuss over Frosty either. I much prefer the lesser-known snowmen.
Frosty! How could anyone hate Frosty! At least the original cartoon.

The original used to be shown annually on a children's show in Chicago called "Garfield Goose." I remember racing home from school in December to make sure I saw it and two other cartoons that were only shown right before Christmas. The other two were "Suzy Snowflake" and "Hardrock, Coco and Joe."

The show was on WGN in the 6Os. And yes, I can still sing along. I know all the words to the songs in the other cartoons although I haven't seen any of them in years.
That original cartoon is amazing but I think Frosty is a little too mature and beady-eyed. He lacks the charm and youthful exuberance of the later Frosty. I can't help it, I love the guy! He always brought me joy.
but ... but bob, he's ... he's a snowman. a SNOWMAN, bob ...
My goal is to see all 100. I'm really looking forward to your top 10. RF
Totally agree. Worst Christmas show ever. The year without a santa clause and Santa Clause is Coming to town is much better.
I think that Captain Kangaroo showed that cartoon once in the sixties....
It was really neat being able to see the original Frosty. Thanks for that.
"What can I say. I hate Frosty"

Whaaaa?? I can't say I remember ever seeing this particular Frosty, but god does it remind me of the B&W shows and commercials I watched as a youngster. All the jingles are silly when you look back at them, but that's all there was then.

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/entertainment/watch/v17444435XQ5qxzXH#

I do remember this one.