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FEBRUARY 21, 2011 1:27PM

Should I Just Go Get An Abortion Today?

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Today I think I’ll take a shower, fix my hair and go get an abortion, just because I can. I might get knee replacement surgery tomorrow. Maybe Thursday is a good day for a mammogram. Followed by a trip to the dentist.

I’m reading posts about how people feel about abortion and I’m lost. I can’t get an abortion today because I’m not pregnant. I can’t get my knees replaced because they are going to be fine for a few more years, so that elective surgery will remain in my future.

The elective and convenient minor surgery known as abortion is one I think of with great fondness. I THANKED the doctors at Planned Parenthood for performing it.

I understand it’s an emotional and touchy subject for many, and I will read every story that you care to share. But here’s a perspective that gets no attention: the fact that it is a safe, legal and minor medical procedure.

I know those words are not filled with any empathy for the women who undergo the safe, legal, minor medical procedure. Because I don’t know them. I can only say that, after undergoing a safe, legal medical procedure that I hope they feel cared for in terms of aftercare for a safe, legal medical procedure. Planned Parenthood and any decent OB-GYN makes sure a patient has follow up because they are doctors and they are doing there jobs, albeit in some cases with bullet proof vests on as they walk from their cars into their workplace to perform a safe, legal and minor medical procedure.

I’m probably one of the few people who will confront the great debate in this manner, and it is because I have had a few abortions. They were all great, in terms of a safe and legal medical procedure. My second one was at the clinic just outside of Boston where the staff had been murdered by a mentally unstable person who walked in with an assault rifle and killed the receptionists and others. So, y’know, I had to have a code name before I could go in the door for my safe, legal abortion. I had to be scanned for weapons. I had to go through a metal detector. My partner was not allowed to be with me. I felt like a criminal, which is exactly what the pro-life nut jobs want. They want you to feel debased and criminalized. They want you to be scared. Can I say thank you to the brave women who work at that clinic, which was moved after it became a true murder scene, for providing this safe and legal medical procedure?

My third abortion was met with typical ugliness by the protestors outside of Planned Parenthood, who are very savvy about exactly how close they can legally get to you as they jeer at you. Really? You are standing in the freezing cold and sleet to scream at me while I pursue a safe and legal and minor medical procedure? Don’t you know any children you could be reading to? Couldn’t you be volunteering in the schools? Is this really the best use of your time?

Also, I could have been going there to get a pap smear. But NOOO! I am a horrible fertile woman who is killing the baby through my wanton womb! If heaven is populated by those assholes, hell will be my preferred afterlife destination.

I yelled back at them. Of course. This is what I am talking about: my rights were being restricted by a mob of idiots who know nothing about me, nor what the safe and legal minor surgery meant in terms of MY health and welfare.

Now is the time for the great reveal: why is it that I have had three abortions? You know what? It’s none of your business. But I speak freely about them anyway because I am not ashamed nor was I ever confused when I got my abortions.

I have friends who are intellectually and emotionally grappling with the issue of abortion, as it pertains to their idea of morality and religion and faith. And life. The most interesting conversations I have on this subject are with people who struggle with their moral opposition to abortion and their basic love for humanity and social justice. They speak with a moral conviction that the shooters and the protesters could only hope, or pray, to find. They think it through and admit that they have reservations. But they also understand that it is a safe and legal medical procedure, and a decision made between a woman and a doctor.

I never wavered when I chose. My circumstances are unique, as is everyone’s circumstance. Abortion should not have to be justified in the court of public opinion. And that is sort of the whole thing. I am tired of war stories being accepted from the front lines when it is a safe and legal medical procedure. I am tired of the war against choice, and I’m about ready to fight back.

 

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Brilliant and brave article. You are right on all of this. It is your personal decision and the violence that comes from the insanity of ignorance and hate is by far a greater sin.
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How brave of you to share this part of your personal story. Half the people I know have had an abortion or their lover has. It's really common. Unintended pregnancies happen. A safe, secure option to end one is an essential human right. Anyone who argues otherwise, I wonder at their motives.
BRAVA, would be clapping but I am typing. Until every woman who has had one, three, ten, can say, I had one and I am fine with it, we aren't facing as much choice as we think. Thankfully, you were given a very safe medical procedure.
Danish studies over long term health care impact found women who had abortions had a lower incidence of depression and mental health problems than women who chose to give birth. As I lived there, I am familiar with the attitudes, which is, every single child is a wanted, cared for and loved child. No one goes without a home, food, medical care, education and access to social services at every step of life. Will some regret it? Probably, but mostly, they get on with it.
I tried to get an IUD a few years ago, as I can't do almost any other type of birth control without side effects. Apparently, it can't be put in me, personally, without putting me under sedation and essentially giving me medication to induce "labor". I asked, what about the cervical opening drugs they use for abortions, and the OBGYN said, those drugs are not used unless you have a special license and work at an abortion facility. A safe, legal medication cannot be used by a OBYGYN surgeon because of its association with abortions. And no, it wasn't worth the risk of uterine puncture and bleeding, although generally they are very safe. I just happen to be shaped "wrong" for it. Motherf**ker.
THANK YOU. I too have had more than one abortion. I am so so grateful they were available and like you, I thanked the doctors and nurses who helped me through it. Two at planned parenthood, one through a free clinic at a local hospital.

Had they not been freely available, I can't imagine what would have happened to me much less the children I would have borne. I could barely care for two children, much less five.

we used birth control.
More power to you! Awesome article! People are quick to judge, until they are in the position of having to choose, they should keep their ignorant mouths shut. The days of being ruled by the Christian right are ending! If Jesus saw how his words have been twisted and mangled to suit the laws that the right has been forcing down every American's throats in the form of laws, I don't think he would be very pleased.
Alison, my wife worked with a group to open a new Planned Parenthood clinic in our town in the country and every Saturday at least one guy is there with his protest sign. One Saturday I was driving by a woman who was driving the opposite way and who took the time to move both hands off the steering wheel to give them a spirited double thumbs down as she passed by the six or so protesters.

As other posts on OS have mentioned in the past and I have heard and read elsewhere a fetus makes out well under this crowd, but once that fetus is a child and beyond this group could not care less about the individual with the same zeal that they foster to protest clinics. I was sorry to read your account of the killings in the clinic in the outer Boston area. Actually, I often thought the Boston area was progressive enough that these people didn't live there, but all it takes is one or a few deranged and misguided people to undertake such a heinous crime at a particular clinic.

Now there is a Republican majority in the House that is of the same mind with these people. All of these years later and it might as well be back in the days of Newt Gingrich when I see what these representatives are up to in the early days of this new Congressional term.

As you point out, it's a personal thing and none of their business! Thanks for sharing your story and ideas on this important topic!
Excellent piece. In celebration of Presidents' Day, I went down to the abortion clinic to get one. The lady there said, "But sir, you're not pregnant!"

"I want an abortion anyways!!"

Well, this conversation went on for hours then I went home and took a nap!!

:)

Rated(cause no, we DO NOT want to go back to the days of back alley abortions!)
aim,
I have for a long while now been trying to get over my anger that this whole issue is on the table again, but then again, I guess it has never gone away. Us women have to sleep with one eye open, as usual.

A lot of people were pissed in my country (Canada) when abortion activist Dr. Henry Morgenthaler received our highest achievement in 2008, The Order Of Canada for his support of women’s right to choose. He wore a bullet proof vest to work everyday and put his life on the line. Women (of all child-bearing ages, not just teenagers by the way) put their life on the line without access to safe, legal abortions. Morgenthaler's life was threatened, his clinic in Toronto was bombed because helped strike down antiquated abortion laws and continues to work towards providing access to unrestricted, safe, legal abortions. I, for one, was proud we acknowledged this.

We must not rest. We've got our collective critical eyes on what is going on here too ... and these proposed changes south of the border make my blood boil.
You shouldn't be "about ready to fight back." You should be fighting back and this is a great, brave start. I would and do support you.
Aim, you are absolutely correct. Why a woman has an abortion is a matter between her and her doctor and nobody's business.
Fabulous and necessary rant. I'm not trying to force people to have abortions, why would others think they have the right to force women to have unwanted children? I wish more women would use birth control responsibly to prevent abortions, but life isn't perfect. I had some dealings with the anti-abortion crowd -- I refuse to call them "pro life" since most don't give a damn about children's lives once they are born -- as a journalist, and I can honestly say that they were some of the most twisted, hateful and shit stupid people I have ever met. And all in the name of "religion."
Fabulous and necessary rant. I'm not trying to force people to have abortions, why would others think they have the right to force women to have unwanted children? I wish more women would use birth control responsibly to prevent abortions, but life isn't perfect. I had some dealings with the anti-abortion crowd -- I refuse to call them "pro life" since most don't give a damn about children's lives once they are born -- as a journalist, and I can honestly say that they were some of the most twisted, hateful and shit stupid people I have ever met. And all in the name of "religion."
As mine was one of the posts you referred to, you already know my thoughts. Thank you for sharing yours. It is legal, it was your choice and is your business.
all for women's right to choose....
I can't get any of those procedures because I don't have health insurance. I've decided to just die on the threshold of the local emergency room or the governor's office
Awesome! I have also had 3 abortions and never had a second thought about making another choice. I think ,frequently, women are scared to say "yes it was an easy decision and because of my beliefs I do not suffer any guilt over this minor medical procedure". You feel compelled to add "well, it really shouldnt be used as a form of birth control, yadda yadda yadda". Good on you for just putting it out there!
Chica, you rock. Regardless of one's intellectual, emotional, moral/religious, and life grapplings regarding abortion, to me the central issue is maintaining abortion as a safe, legal and minor medical procedure.

Back in the day, when I identified myself as a "pro-life" advocate, I could not make myself anti legal abortion - even at the time, I felt that "pro-life" needed to encompass and encourage the life of the woman who was facing the decision.

You rock . . . keep on speaking up and speaking out . . . we're right behind you, cheering you on!
Terrific piece, AIM. You're a wonder.
I am of the school that abortion is a personal matter and the details should remain between a woman and her doctor. Nor is it a means of birth control. Period.
Like I mentioned somewhere else it is our right, our body and no one should have control over it but us. I have ran interference and those people with their horrible signs and self righteous attitude should be the ones being yelled at. Your right if they are so gung ho on children why don't they volunteer to help somewhere where they are needed where they could help.
Although I'm a man and couldn't have an abortion, I have sufficient respect for the morality of a woman's right to control her own body and those men and those who talk with and to imaginary entities have absolutley no right to interfere with that.
Aim, this took guts to do.
HUGGGGGGGGGGGG
Hmmm, wow, so many directions to go here. Enough to build a blog around, but I will try to confine it to an acceptable comment. Just an aside on the people who noted that the fetus loses much importance once it becomes a child. Worse yet, if it becomes a child of a single mother, it will be denied health care, adequate shelter, and anything else they can deny the mother. It won't be denied siblings, because those will probably keep coming. If it becomes gay, it will be denied the right to love and marry who it chooses, and until recently would have been denied the right to fight and die for the country that fought for it's right to be born. Nor would George W have hired it to a post in his white house staff.. And so on...
Anyway. Regarding that safe, legal, minor medical procedure. It is minor and legal, to be sure. But let me give you another perspective on safe. As opposed to back alley coat-hanger butcher jobs, it is absolutely safe. It is a very long way from those. But I have given many many anesthetics for these. Most are done with either general anesthesia or very heavy sedation. Both are only as safe as the vigilance of the person administering them. I once almost lost a 12 year old girl because she reacted to the muscle relaxant. 4 hours later she finally started breathing again and we could take her off the ventilator. I have had to give blood because the surgeon perforated the uterus. I have witnessed bladder perforations, uterine perforations, bowel perforations. I have had argument after argument with greedy surgeons who wanted me to forego the taking of the blood pressure, the confirmation of return of reflexes for swallowing so that the patient would be at least able to protect her airway should she regurgitate. They insisted that I move things along more quickly. I have had to stop the flow of the procedures to make the recovery personnel simply hold a patient's jaw forward so their tongue didn't obstruct, or see that they turned her onto her side for the same reason. I am vigilant. I am anal about it. Many aren't. There is no such thing as a minor anesthetic.
I defend a woman's right to choose with my every fiber. But make no mistake, there are risks with this procedure. The ones I have listed, and SO many more. Be careful out there.
One old fashioned "right on!" and a thank you to you for this post and for sharing your story. I've had an abortion myself and am not ashamed to say so. I also worked at a feminist women's health center providing choices and care, and fighting for the same. To the poster who talks about general anaesthesia or heavy sedation for the procedure, that is not how it is done in this country in the first trimester -- during which the vast majority occur. Anyway, sidetrack -- again thank you! especially for "should not have to be justified in the court of public opinion".
Thanks for this excellent piece. I read Mimetalker's earlier today and was so disgusted I wasn't going to read anymore, but your piece was recommended on FB, so here I am. I've had two abortions thank you very much. Safe, legal, medical procedures Less of a hassle than some dental work. The only emotion I've ever felt was one of relief. The circumstances of my pregnancies are no one's business but my own, but I will say they had nothing to do with my fucking self esteem.
Wow, no trolls (knock on wood). Thanks for reading and for these terrific comments.
miclapeace: Thanks, truly, for reading this and weighing in. Your name says it all, and I don't want to fight.
ReiMomo: I agree with every word you say. Thanks.

Oryoki: Wow. Thanks for this comment and...look for a PM about IUD's! That was abortion #3. I spent years trying not to get pregnant, with similar issues to yours. The Danish studies sound very, well, European - there seems to be less attitude about peoples moral issues about things that don't concern them, there. Thanks for your amazing comment!

Foolish Monkey: So glad you had that help when you needed it, and that you can continue to raise the beautiful family you chose.

Hawley Rose: I don't know how Jesus would feel, but I like to think of his message as one of acceptance and love. Thanks for your great comment, and let me say how hard it is to stop myself from accidently running over protesters at times.

Thanks designanator - and give my thanks to your wife for her hard work. Many people point out how ludicrous is is to deny any funding for reproductive health, all in the name of making abortion illegal. I , personally, would put birth control into the juice boxes of tweens.

Tinker toy: You would be an excellent reproductive health counselor except for your tendency to run away from the subject at hand.

Scarlett: That is astounding. Thanks so much for introducing me to this pioneer. I feel lucky that people from Canada even want to bother with our country and it's backasswardness.

Thanks Razzle Dazzle: You're correct, and I am trying. How do you fight fire with just being right?

Thank you MrsRaptor: That is the core and soul of the debate.

Thanks Emma: I hate those terms as well. There's no such thing as an abortion doctor, and it's all reproductive health, and the wingnuts are anti-choice on many levels. Birth control is an obvious and good answer to the debate, but since they apparantley hate that too I'm not sure what is the next step.

mimetalker: I hope you also felt included when I talked about my friends who are thinking so much about it, as I was thinking of you and Joan particularly when I wrote that paragraph!

Elijah Rising: !! That is a dark and gloomy thought! Please let me know if I can help you find healthcare (I'm strangely good at it, given my work experience) and also I love the word languish.

jessica 213: YOU rock. I love this comment because I never want to make another excuse for doing something I am legally allowed to do.

Owl: That's an amazing insight from someone who has done the grappling! Maintain reproductive choice as we work to further general reproductive health? Wow! That will never work because it makes so much sense! little girls dance around singing "You goota put a ring on it!" while I mutter in the background that the condom might be the better thing to, well, don.
@ Smokey's mom.."this country" is California. And this was a private clinic that did 75 abortions a day. And many of the patients were under 14 years old. And we DID do them this way--or I would not have said so.
Granted, different places do different things..and they are definitely done much better now..but not always.
How come some of the same people who are shooting down universal health care and the government getting in between a patient and doctor are OK with the government getting in the middle of that relationship when it comes to abortion? I heart you aim
I have had one abortion and am glad I had a legal place with caring doctors and nurses to go for it. My birth control did not work.
Abortion is a medicsl procedure best left between a woman and her doctor. No one has the right to get between the two.
TY Aim. Excellent post here.
years ago i participated in one of the many actions taking place at abortion clinics where hundreds of people banded together to encircle a building, putting their bodies on the line to safeguard the women arriving for safe legal minor medical procedures. what i remember the most is the hideous twisted angry faces of the people who rammed into us with no regard for our well-being, shouting their profane version of religion in our faces. but we hung on to one another, arms linked, faces bland and strong, wordless, for the most part, even while confronted with insanity. i hope that metaphorically we can continue to link arms and speak out loudly now against sending women to hell in back alleys while they are still alive.
Thanks flw: I love seeing you in all ways, always. I'm more of a natural disaster than a wonder, but I accept your beautiful compliment.

Fusun: Thanks. I probably disagree because my premise is that it be though of as as a medical procedure...but I agree that it is not a good method of birth control. Unfortunately, birth control is not on the minds of many people who are against abortion, which sucks for them because they will endlessly argue about our fertility I guess!

LL2: Why don't they go help in your schools, for instance? Lots of kids to love, I'm sure. They could probably take a few home with them!

XJS: I think you have every right to talk about abortion and I also like your reference to entities!

Linda: It was not that hard, but thanks. The only people I don't tell about my abortions are the children in my life, and they'll get it when they're old enough. I am not ashamed.
Your giant hugs always warm me up a bit!

Elisa: I could replace this enitre post with your comment. You nailed it.
No one should have to defend or explain why they are going to a doctor. Ever.
I had to got to Japan to get mine as it was illegal in Seattle in the late sixties. It was such a confusing time. If only I had been able to walk into a safe clinic and talk to someone but it was all so under the table. We CAN NOT go back to those days. Yikes. This should be an EP and I am so happy you put it all out there. Thanks.
I like your honesty and I'm glad someone is limiting population growth. -R-
Satori 1: Your comment is almost it's own post, and I hope you will pursue that. Thanks for YOUR bravery in describing parts of a surgical procedure, and how that can go awry. I would argue that any surgical procedure is equally dangerous, unless the doctor is rushed because, say, he or she is afraid of being assasinated.
I'm glad you were there for your patients. I hope you have not suffered under those death threats by pursuing your highly trained and educated career. Thanks for giving a detailed look into what might occur during surgery.

thanks smokeysmom: I love that you get it from both perspectives: health care worker and patient. Thanks for commenting.
(I won't say anything that you and Satori1 can't say to each other beyond: thanks for having a good dialogue!)

Thanks Ablonde: I wasn't bothered by mimetalker's piece and in fact hope she knows that I am referring to her in "friends who feel differently" references.
It's not an easy subject, and I really appreciate the fact that you understand rejecting any shame attached to it. Once we feel ashamed, the moral terrorists will win.
Once you have an unwanted pregnancy there are no GREAT options (ones that are pain-free and fun!), but I think we should trust women to look at the options and pick the best one for their lives and circumstances, their bodies. I mean, if we can't trust them to do THAT...why would we want them to raise actual children? Oh! They're supposed to give birth and give those (preferably white) babies to more deserving Christian families. Because that's not painful at all.

No one I know who has had an abortion went about it as if it were a salad and martini lunch, but all are at peace with the decision.
"It’s none of your business." That's the line that sums it up concisely.

Here in Westchester, safe blue-state territory, we have a clinic that it is the daily target of protesters, so that volunteers are needed to escort women safely into the clinic. For many of these women, it can be one of the saddest days of their lives, and these idiots have to make it worse? You're right, aim, the protesters should be doing something more valuable with their time, like helping in the schools. Something that could actually be construed as "pro-life."
Dear Aim~
I hope you understand that my piece today had *nothing* to do with religion and *nothing* to do with morality, but everything to do with my own tendency to think and feel deeply about things. I wrote out my thoughts, pushed "publish" and hoped I wasn't misunderstood. ~r
No matter what I think of abortion, this is not my choice and I can see no way a man should even be allowed to make laws for or against it. This is strictly a womans choice. Period.
AGREED
This is the KEY

How can you make a Law, if you are not aware of all the unique and individual circumstances that, truly, should enable and empower the individual concerned to make their own, INFORMED decision, under the conditions of their own circumstances and reasoning.

This is why I studied Social Sciences at a late age - because it is now, that all Rule Makers and religions need to see, that you do have to accept what is, what is that persons choice, and let it be.
Let it be their choice, your choice, I AM's Choice.

Some people don't eat bacon cos of sulphates.
I eat my own outdoor reared bacon san sulphates - tasty Breakfast.
No Chlorine in the water on my mountain stream - or fluoride.
You can live pure, you can get out of the rat race, the system, the rif raff, the scandal, the gossip, its your choice. Your Decision.
If you want it, here it is, come and get it. I AM I also let others live as THEY AM too, no Ham no problem I have pasta and vegetables in my store, and rice and herbs and fruit too.
Be fruitful, be happy, be you, be I AM
Clarification: I was reading many posts today, not only here but on the big internet, about abortion and came up with my own post. This post is not a reference to anyone else's writing in general or about the subject of abortion as dealt with by any writer I might have read.
Here's what I don't understand about the folks who are anti-choice. They are always screaming about "keep the government out of my face-stuff-business-life (you name it)" and they can't see the irony in sticking their face-stuff-business-life into the personal, private lives of women. Grrrrrr. And R for you. Honest, courageous post.
Great job Alison! I had my first in 1974 and thank heavens it was legal by then! Two more followed over the years. Tried getting my tubes tied when I was around 32 but they would not do it. There is an old message board out there in cyberspace on the topic of abortion that I spent hours and hours debating the anti-choice crowd on. Some folks were reasonable but most were zealots. Then, I actually worked with a slew of the zealots in Texas. I volunteered with a DV ministry within the Catholic Church, and one of my business partner's wives was the head of the Diocese anti-abortion group. Poplewho worked the DV ministry also protested at PP. I was in charge of gettig all of the secualr DV shelters to participate in our annual conference. I was called into the Diocese office to be warned that the shelters could NOT display any information on birth control!!!!!! No BC, no abortion - can you say reproductive slave?

The fact that we are still fighting this battle enrages me. I am not doing much fighting anymore though. I am still angry about the way younger women treated me during the 2008 primary so they can fight their own damn battle now. I don't need safe and legal abortion anymore.
Whenever I encounter anti-choice people, I always ask, "How many children have YOU adopted?" That usually shuts them right up. I thought your piece was brave and very necessary. It's a shame we have to keep fighting the same fight. Thanks for your thoughtfulness and bravery.
Aim-I did feel included in your reference to friends "grappling with the issue"...thank you for considering me a friend. And grappling is a good word. I added this to the post I wrote on this. It felt like something was missing...

"If women choose this [abortion] it needs to be done humanely and safely. All life is precious. Including hers."

Re-reading my comment, I think it sounds cold and distant. I didn't mean it to be. My comments are often short and don't reflect the feelings behind them because I do them on work breaks and don't have time to expound (and I don't want them to be longer than the post...I could easily get carried away).
I think the only way this can be settled is for you to debate this daily.
i am intimately familiar with what it's like for a woman to have an abortion, to give birth to a child and raise it, give birth to a child and give it up for adoption, and to spontaneously abort or miscarry more than half a dozen times. whether these things happened to me personally or to people who are related to me in the closest possible way is, as you say about your own experience, aim, none of anyone's business.

but what i will tell you is that what was damaging to the woman(en) in every single one of these instances, if there was damage, was the guilt she was made to feel by people who did not approve of her choice and felt they had the right to tell her that.
This was a courageous post. It takes a whole bunch of courage both to have a child and to have an abortion. Women deserve more cred for that
I am part of the anti-abortion group.

That being said that's my personal choice. I am also not your father, husband, lover or minister. When you time comes to an end it is you that will have to answer to whatever you believe in as a God.

The one person you don't have to answer to is me. Unless I am your father, you ask, or post something like this, you will not hear what I think.

For those who want to stand in front of a clinic, try to kill a staff member, or plant a bomb, you are as bad, if not worse, than what you are protesting.

Just a mans thoughts.
"When you time."

Now, that you have (mostly) finally figured out that two/to/too are different words (took you more than a year), try practicing you/your.

"Just a mans thoughts."

Then you can start on apostrophes.

man? ROTFLMFAO
Good for you, and thank you for your courage and conviction! E
safe, legal, minor medical procedure

Safe, legal and a minor medical procedure. For the woman. Not so safe or minor for the infant she carries within her.
"To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way—no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way—it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun. While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."

Margaret Sanger
Mark,

You are the perfect example of why we need abortion to be legal. To bad you mother did take advantage of it and flush you ass down the medical garbage disposal. She would have helped clean out the gene pool you are screwing up.
catnliar: "To bad you mother did take advantage of it and flush you ass down the medical garbage disposal."

I apologize - I thought you had finally learned to=two=too , and you doesn't equal your.

you've flunked again - back to your urine soaked crib to study some more.
PS - you WERE aborted, but came back as a imbecilic moron.
typos?

you speak English, like an as*hole from Siberia - no offense to as*holes, nor Siberia.
My first take was that you were actually going through that decision process and I did not want to be involved (guilty) or feel that I was in any way in a position to have any input other than that of someone who cares what you are and may go through as a result of your choice. Yes! Your choice. Something so personal and with such powerful implications should consider every viewpoint and experience you can reference; but in the end, you must choose and 'own' that decision. I have no right. Thank you for being direct and powerful; we need light here.
R or honesty and so much more.